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by Omega
Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:42 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Reformists view
Replies: 75
Views: 9671

Re: Reformists view

Brother Aqs,

Salaam,

though the questions are for Reformists, but have you tried asking these question in any sabak or to any Aamil, i hope you would have got answers to all of your queries related to religion
by Omega
Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:00 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Earth hour
Replies: 39
Views: 3326

Re: Earth hour

Brother Maqbool, salaam, not only this year but last year also a lot of initiatives were taken. for example two emails from Dubai jamat Email Subject: Earth Hour 2009 From: Anjuman e Najmi (e-Jamaat) Date Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:46:31 Content: Earth Hour 2009 - March 28 from 8:30 pm to 9:30 ...
by Omega
Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:22 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

Brother Maqbool,

Salaam,

Yes that can also be a point, but the main reason was Visa restrictions from Saudi authorities.
by Omega
Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:31 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

by omabharti I know you are new PR for Kothar but an honest answer will save you from too many make up excuses. HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY, INSANITY IS THE BEST DEFENSE Salaam, Ok that was a new one, but it will be hard for you to digest that i was a sympathiser of the movement in my youth, and tha...
by Omega
Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:49 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

What hassles are you talking about? Aren't they always there? Have they ever stopped Bohras from going for Umra? Why was there a ban on all abdes, including those who stayed in Saudi Arabia and who did not have to take a visa? The mistake is that Bohras have been converted into a human worshipping ...
by Omega
Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:57 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

@Brother Smart,

Salaam,

A move which was to save every one from hassle of Saudi authorities is being questioned. Kindly enlighten how it was a mistake on the part of authorities
by Omega
Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:46 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

Brother Bohri,

Salaam,

as i said earlier that few people went to Saudi on business visa's for Umra and faced Saudi authorities, so to save all from facing any problem a farman was given that at that time thier is no Raza
by Omega
Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:38 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Omega - Quran unveils Burhanuddin sahib truth & character
Replies: 60
Views: 9069

Re: Omega - Quran unveils Burhanuddin sahib truth & characte

Brother Mubarak,

Salaam,

Inshalla we will discuss whatever you want, its just that i have a job also to take care of and its tough for me to answer or discuss a lot of things at a same time, hope you understand.

a humble request, kindly save all your pun intended innunedo's for a better time
by Omega
Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:30 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

Assalam aleykum Brother Omega, Continuation of the discussion of moalana's recent visit to Saudi Arabia... 'sauga dude wrote:I accept your point that every year after the Hajj season, umrah is restricted to allow for maintenance work. However, WHY did the farman informing mumineen that "raza n...
by Omega
Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:19 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

Brother Husain_KSA/ Smart

Salaam,

I have not left any where, its just that people are more interested to discuss comments of a advocate who himself had filed the case against Syedna (Tus).

rest assured i am still open to any discussion or debate.
by Omega
Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:37 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked
Replies: 56
Views: 6246

Re: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked

Brother Accountability, Salaam, You are correct when you say that a common Dawoodi bohra is no way inferior to any of the Mulla or Sheikh, its just that due to large number of people sometimes these Mulla or Sheikh are given privilege on the basis of first among equal, which you will agree is very m...
by Omega
Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:20 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

Salaam, Brother Sauga Dude, Not one of the link provided by you says any thing about a BAN on Syedna(tus). Brother Bohri, Please understand one thing that every year after Zilhaj Umrah is restricted to people from around the world for maintenance work in and around Makka. And Syedna (Tus) went in th...
by Omega
Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:12 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

first question by Brother AL Zulfiqar, 1) why was the syedna black-listed and not able to visit saudi since last 20 years? and even after being graciously allowed in for an umrah, why was he instructed to strictly not allow any bohras to join him? He (Tus) was never black listed, do you even remotel...
by Omega
Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:37 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

Brother Omabharti, As their was no reply from You or any one on the research they must have done on Hinduism's origin and as some other Brother's were becoming restless on seeing a new Abde on the block i said that the reply for Wadhavu was intended for the right people and they must have understood...
by Omega
Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:47 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

Brother Bohri, Salaam, you should have waited for some time before hitting a nail into Brother Al Zufiqar, it would have hurt him real hard. He was just in the process of taking out a point out of his 30 + questions and you come in between. Between my previous post was very well understood by people...
by Omega
Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:27 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked
Replies: 56
Views: 6246

Re: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked

@Al Zulfiqar,

Brother it was off the record remark, thats why i asked if you can provide me something which can refute his claim. other wise i take it on face value
by Omega
Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:21 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

@Al Zulfiqar, Brother in your eagerness to label me and all others as Fanatic no brainers you have made one thing very clear, that as you think that we are doctrined into believing every thing is perfect you are also the part of the same coin but just on the opposite side who believes that every thi...
by Omega
Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:24 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

@Al Zulfiqar, Brother i am very much open to any kind of discussion. and i think i was not able to make myself clear before. I will NOT be able to quote anything from Al Quran or any of the Holy books but will discuss on a general logic and what my thinking is. if you deem it fit to discuss further ...
by Omega
Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:15 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked
Replies: 56
Views: 6246

Re: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked

by Al Zulfiqar can YOU or the amil provide any such irrefutable document for the claim of 12 lacs? if neither side can provide such documents, then whose word should we go by? ask yrself why we are wrestling with such a silly issue today. is it not due to the deliberate policies of the kothar to hi...
by Omega
Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:48 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

@Al Zulfiqar, Salaam, Brother when something is allowed for our kids on whatever the occasion be, lets take it their Misri Calender Bday. If thats Unislamic it should not be allowed even on their Birthday which is one of the most important day of their life. The basic logic behind doing it on Makdam...
by Omega
Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:17 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked
Replies: 56
Views: 6246

Re: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked

Beleive me its only 6 lakhs ...This is been confirmed by the kothar and its a valid figure known to all Aamils...You can try talking to your Aamil to find it out ... There has been a constant decrease in the count of people from europe,USA & parts of maharashtra ...I think this detailed informa...
by Omega
Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:10 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

by omabharti on Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:59 pm Thanks for referring me as Brother and I will reciprocate with the same respect calling you as Brother Omega My question was replied by Br. GM eloquently. I know Wahawo was and is done during Birthdays and it is a ritual which we as Bohras adopted from Hindu...
by Omega
Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:44 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

by ghulam muhammed on Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:35 pm The wadhawni rasm which your elders are mentioning is the wadhawnu during birthdays, nikahs etc. and not the wadhawni rasm of a dai as Omabharti has mentioned. No one wadhawofied the dai in the earlier days. Nowadays the abdes are forced to do wadhawni...
by Omega
Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:33 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked
Replies: 56
Views: 6246

Re: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked

by merchant786 on Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:09 pm Omega, Just one basic question for you which does not even involve the religious knowledge... There are only 6 lakhs registered ejamaat card holders i.e bohras in the world now..The population at the time of 51st Dai was much more than that..Please explai...
by Omega
Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:21 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked
Replies: 56
Views: 6246

Re: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked

by ghulam muhammed on Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:22 pm Agreed that keeping a beard is part of the sunnah of Rasul Allah (s.a.w.). Now I request you to honestly carry out a survey whereby at random you ask 10 dadhiwala bohras one simple question i.e. -- Why do you sport a beard ? After that tell me whether ...
by Omega
Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:59 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

@Al Zulfiqar, i understand your frustration for not getting proper reply to your concerns but as you are a old member and have seen a lot of Abde's come and go you must have realised one thing for sure that as soon as some Abde replies to any of the post some 5-6 people starts commenting at the same...
by Omega
Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:06 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

@ Al Zulfikar, Brother i think you have mistaken my humbleness with my weakness. i just wanted to discuss one topic at a time so that attention is not deviated from the topic discussed. and as you have already ridiculed my intellect and wisdom, i dont have much to say. by omabharti on Tue Mar 16, 20...
by Omega
Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:46 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked
Replies: 56
Views: 6246

Re: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked

@ Insaaf Saheb, SIr i think you are one of eldest of the people who reply on this forum. I also respect you for your differences though i belong to a different school of thought and in your words a hardcore Abde, but i have not been thaught to be rude just to prove my point. Sir i think you have con...
by Omega
Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:37 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Replies: 166
Views: 20152

Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...

Brother Al Zulfiqaar, in my few replies i have not mentioned at once that we are living in a perfect world. right now have to leave. but Inshallah will get back to you tomorrow or will try to reply in the evening. between i will not be in a position to quote from Al Quran or any of the holy books, s...
by Omega
Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:45 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked
Replies: 56
Views: 6246

Re: Kuchh Ajeeb Manners , Tameez That I Remarked

Brother Human, i agree that sometimes overzealous nature of Tanzeem people and sometimes of Aamil might look like too much for a trivial issue to some. but when we look at it from another view point they are just asking you to follow Sunnah of Rasullalah (saw), what's the harm in it. And as every on...