Dawoodi Bohra Forum

Let's be realistic. The bohra community (esp orthos) are likely to be in for a traumatic shock upon the demise of the current dai. Not just becasue of the loss of a "loved one" but also because they will truly be a flock of sheep without a shepard. It will be a real lesson for the masses ...

http://f_januwala.tripod.com/id2.html ------- Naam Khidmat Kaam Fitnat I recieved this email yesterday. It details the power structure of the Shezadas who was controling Dawat and creating a wall between and Haq and Batil Badrul Jamali (BJ for short) and his family are now controlling the administra...

What if he goes into coma or becomes mentaly incapacited? and the nass is not done? The NASS must surely have been done - however not made public. It would have been done behind closed doors with endorsements from lawyers and/or legal council. Can you imagine the dissent and rifts that would happen...

Danish, Maybe it has something to do with the bank and what it allows. The reason I say what I say - personal anecdote: I have a mortgae - 30 years, and each month was payin x% interest ontop of mortgage payments. Some months ago I actually paid of the loan totally - 23 years prior to the real deadl...

[quote]Originally posted by Danish:
Hello Aleem,

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Danish,

Further to my previous post, granted that this is not a very common approach to a mortgage. The vast majority of mortgae holders no doubt are paying off loan installments while incurring interest charges.

Danish, It's quite straight forward. You can open a mortgage loan account but pay off all the value of the loan so that effectively the amount due to be re-payed into the loan is "zero". The more you repay your loan, the amount of interest paid is reduced - so by paying it all off you effe...

Omabharti, Firstly, It IS possible to have a mortage and not pay any interest. It is common for many people to keep holding onto a mortgage but pay it down to zero so that no interest is paid. This just allows for easier facilitation for carrying on a "zero loan" which can be used for othe...

Originally posted by porus:
Go here. !! Its a Christmas cheer.

What has this got to do with anything?

He is still at his retreat in Germany, getting pumped with life-prolonging drugs. Insiders claim he will be there for the rest of the month.

Originally posted by jamanpasand: As I understand that in Europe and Nothern America most of the high end restaurants have no concept of Halal Meat in their menu. We see lots of these so called Shezadas and other kotharis in the high end restaurants. Even some of them do their functions there. So I...

Originally posted by moomin052:
has the publisher of the chronicle died or has he become a bohra and left the frogs

For once, M52 seems to raise an pertinent issue.

Admin, will we be able to see this online once again?

Accountability,

Interesting. What happened next?

I think this was in Detroit - am I correct?

Originally posted by moomin052: like i said its like talking to child because morality according to islam will be lack freedom of human rights to you so there is no point explaining tro you frogs M52, I very much disagree. Morality according to Islam can be condisered the very epitome of human righ...

Originally posted by moomin052: aleem and other progs, your moula engineer and his shaitan insaaf are big liars trying to attack our moula with lies.they start like iblis by becoming your friend and showing you that they care but you should know this that iblis shaitan has never and will never be s...

Originally posted by moomin052: if you are a 4 year mongolian then explaining to you would be useless right.and by the way so what if they give out nobel prizes does that make.i see murderers and and haters of islam have been given this prizes by them M52, C'mon mate. Can we build some constructive...

Originally posted by moomin052: tell me what is your age or are you illitrate dont you the newspapers aleem asking me about the anti islamic laws in those countries.perhaps your moula engineer will enlighten your mind M52, OK For the sake of argument. I am 4 years old and live in a cave in the inne...

Originally posted by moomin052: his whole stupid life is a lie ,he calls our moula syedna saheb and then abuses him,all his so called works have been given recognition by sweden and norway suppossedly,but this are two of the most immoral countries in the world and anti islamic that should tell you ...

mumin52,

I am sure the syedna would be proud of the language you use. Don't you think?

AIBird, For someone who doesn't approve of what the reformists stand for, you seem to spend excessive aounts of time and effort advising what should be done and how reformists should live their lives. Can I ask you why you even care what the reformists are doing? You appear to be nothing but a progr...

Originally posted by moushy8: Aleem ur right tht i dont mention the place i live for anonimity reasons... anyways i assure u tht in stay in a place which is very developed and is highly linked with the U.S(in good terms)... another clue, its got the highest currency rate in the world!.. and its an ...

Originally posted by mumin_mukhlish: FYI, I knw at least 4 students in US who wear topi and rida in college and very well appreciated by other non bohra students. FYI, they don't come from Kothar and they are just common Mumin. One of them is doing Ph.D.[/QB] MM, I was not saying that wearing rida/...

Originally posted by tahir: When all the 2 million plus pilgrims are wrapped "only" in Ehram during those 3-5 haj days, bohras are made to wear the quomi payjama as undergarment beneath the Ehram. They not only invite curious and even angry looks from other hajis but also become a butt of...

Originally posted by moushy8: ameen, lets suppose syedna wouldnt have done such a thing in front of the tax collector... But wht can a petty tax collector stand in the way of syedna.. Syedna can just crush him like a roach if he would have said something against him.. why, he has so many goverments...

It will be interesting to see what happens.
However, if a flock of sheep loose their shepard - eventually a new shepard comes along - the sheep soon forget what happened in the past and continue to trot along blindly no matter how radically different (better or worse) the new ways are.

Just to posit..... What on Earth would the shazada saheb's do without money/ riches/ being waited on hand and foot. They are so accustom to being waited on hand and foot and have grown up with silver spoons in their mouth and gold plated toilet paper (or lowtas), that should 'misfortune' come upon t...

Originally posted by moomin052: what exactly do you mean that the dai is supposed to lead only spiritually and not interfere with daily life,please ask ajger and explain M52, The position of dai (im my understanding is correct) is to be a guide and benchmark of how all people should live their live...

Accountability,

There is no spirituality.
Pure, adulterated indulgence.
That's all.

Moushy, The ignorance is well known and there are hundreds of stories and anecdotes floating around. However, I doubt he would have said such things to a tax collector. It's in his interests 'not' to portray himself as a cult figure-head isn't it? I think it's equally important that we don't beleive...

Originally posted by tahir:
The spiritually challenged bohras cannot digest the concept of a dai living an ascetic life in a hut. [/QB]

Tahir,

You have articulated this brilliantly. Good on ya mate!