If I am Abde Syedna, is he not my maabood. Come on this is simple Porus.
Forget about Arabic common parlance - The word means Master(as in Master-slave) and not Allah. Please confirm Porus.
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- Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:56 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Shirk is the greatest Sin
- Replies: 16
- Views: 3328
- Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:05 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Shirk is the greatest Sin
- Replies: 16
- Views: 3328
Re: Shirk is the greatest Sin
Wrong translation Insaf.
"Maabood too mera hai" "you are my God"
Maabood is derived from the word abd. So I would translate this correctly as "you are my master".
Reading Insaf's earlier post's, I doubt this mistake was unintentional.
"Maabood too mera hai" "you are my God"
Maabood is derived from the word abd. So I would translate this correctly as "you are my master".
Reading Insaf's earlier post's, I doubt this mistake was unintentional.
- Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:57 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Cxample of Bohra Muslim women, Modi said---
- Replies: 43
- Views: 6131
Re: Cxample of Bohra Muslim women, Modi said---
I can not believe that kothar was one of the first to felicitate this greatest butcher in history of Gujarat when he was reelected I am not spinning the truth. You had mentioned that Shahzadas had felicitated Modi in a public function when he was re-elected. My take on this is - the photograph of o...
- Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:43 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Cxample of Bohra Muslim women, Modi said---
- Replies: 43
- Views: 6131
Re: Cxample of Bohra Muslim women, Modi said---
Admin, I guess the pictures supplied to you by S. Insaf have probably come out of Badre Muneer or Nasime Sahar. Could you pls check the dates of the publication. The reason I ask is very important. I want to clarify that the photograph of Modi was taken before or after the Gujarat riots. Or if you w...
- Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:21 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Kothar's news site
- Replies: 83
- Views: 9297
Re: Kothar's news site
Just picked this up from one thread only, there are others too Jinx - They(previous dai) didn’t go with their bastard and their children to all paid business class trip to US and neither did their bastard lived in mansions in Europe. Jinx - Mullah Jonah blank do not give a fuc* how Burhanuddin ripof...
- Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:09 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Kothar's news site
- Replies: 83
- Views: 9297
Re: Kothar's news site
Admin..where were you when Jinx keeps on calling Syedna as bastard etc..I think different rules for different people..
- Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:51 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Id-ul-FIKR (yes FIKR) Mubarak to the Kothari extremsit B
- Replies: 45
- Views: 7337
Re: Id-ul-FIKR (yes FIKR) Mubarak to the Kothari extremsit B
If you read carefully the ayat you have quoted is post-collection and discusses about distribution of zakat. The ayat which talks about collection is "Of their wealth, take alms so you may purify and bless them." It asks the prophet to collect zakat. It is our aqida that the rightful succe...
- Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:51 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Id-ul-FIKR (yes FIKR) Mubarak to the Kothari extremsit B
- Replies: 45
- Views: 7337
Re: Id-ul-FIKR (yes FIKR) Mubarak to the Kothari extremsit B
If you read carefully the ayat you have quoted is post-collection and discusses about distribution of zakat. The ayat which talks about collection is "Of their wealth, take alms so you may purify and bless them." It asks the prophet to collect zakat. It is our aqida that the rightful succe...
- Thu Nov 06, 2003 4:47 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Question for the Reformists
- Replies: 49
- Views: 6627
Re: Question for the Reformists
And excesses come in the shape of ex-communication, public humiliation, violence, intolerance, forcing people to quit bank jobs, dicating people how to vote, telling people where and how to shit , forbidding people to read certain newspapers/books, making people wear ridiculous clothes, in general ...
- Tue Nov 04, 2003 6:02 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Flock of Sheep
- Replies: 2
- Views: 656
Re: Flock of Sheep
Which part of the article contained 'shirq' or even a reference to shirq. Or is it that the term is fashionable that you use it without context.
- Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:07 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: A Message for the Munafiqs on this website
- Replies: 61
- Views: 8346
Re: A Message for the Munafiqs on this website
Yes, and Md Husain had stated that it was some Shahzada Sahebs walking with Modi. It turns out there were some ordinary Bohra folks. also he could not corroborate whether this photograph was taken in rajkot or ahmedabad. the reason why this is so important is rajkot election happened before the riot...
- Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:18 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sayedna meets Modi -- take this poll
- Replies: 17
- Views: 2841
Re: Sayedna meets Modi -- take this poll
When I mention no choice at all, let the readers decide themselves: Question 1 of 4: Was Sayedna Saheb right in meeting Modi? Choose 1 Yes No Don't know Question 2 of 4: Why did he not condemn Modi's role in Gujarat riots? Choose up to 2 Does not have guts Does not care about suffering of Bohras/Mus...
- Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:10 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Sayedna meets Modi -- take this poll
- Replies: 17
- Views: 2841
Re: Sayedna meets Modi -- take this poll
Pathetic attempt for a poll. It is a classic example of 'Hobson's choice'. No choice at all.
I will let this one pass.
I will let this one pass.
- Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:04 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: QURESH BHAISAHEB PASSES AWAY
- Replies: 30
- Views: 4097
Re: QURESH BHAISAHEB PASSES AWAY
Imam Hasan sought peace with Muawaiya, but surely his (Imam Hasan's) "sitting down" didn't do much good Humsafar, In your quest to slander the Syedna, you go all the way upto Imam Hasan and slander him. There is no Shia alive today who believes that Imam Hasan's peace treaty was wrong and...
- Fri Oct 10, 2003 2:17 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: QURESH BHAISAHEB PASSES AWAY
- Replies: 30
- Views: 4097
Re: QURESH BHAISAHEB PASSES AWAY
I have not fallen silent. Mohd Husain had mentioned earlier that 'I saw a picture of shahzada with Kothari gang walking along' - he mentioned that Modi was being felicitated. He then brings out a picture of Modi walking in the streets with some Bohra men without any Shahzada in sight. That proves Md...
- Sat Sep 27, 2003 4:03 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Cxample of Bohra Muslim women, Modi said---
- Replies: 43
- Views: 6131
Re: Cxample of Bohra Muslim women, Modi said---
You are digressing from the topic. You mentioned that Modi was fecilitated by the Kothar. I asked for proof and you go all over town about Bush and Thackeray. I need proof on Modi and Kothar. If you dont have it, I dont have anything else to say.
- Fri Sep 26, 2003 4:56 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Cxample of Bohra Muslim women, Modi said---
- Replies: 43
- Views: 6131
Re: Cxample of Bohra Muslim women, Modi said---
Mohd Husain The BUTCHER MODI"s coffers are full of Kothar's money so he will say anything to please Syedna & his gang- I can not believe that kothar was one of the first to felicitate this greatest butcher in history of Gujarat when he was reelected Simon Could you point out to any document...
- Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:46 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Cxample of Bohra Muslim women, Modi said---
- Replies: 43
- Views: 6131
Re: Cxample of Bohra Muslim women, Modi said---
Could you point out to any documentation of the felicitation or, as usual, you are shooting in the air ?I can not believe that kothar was one of the first to felicitate this greatest butcher in history of Gujarat when he was reelected
- Tue Aug 12, 2003 4:38 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: What makes Yuthis such blind followers of Asghar Enginee
- Replies: 29
- Views: 4090
Re: What makes Yuthis such blind followers of Asghar Enginee
Jinx, you went to Galiakot and did not learn anything. 'Vacancy' sign still out there on your top floor. If you have a chance to do a ziyarat, pls go to galikot, go to Taherabad and see the house of Dai before Burhanuddin Galiakot aka Taherabad is the resting place of Syedi Fakhruddin Shaheed who wa...
- Tue Jul 29, 2003 7:36 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: "What makes Bohras such Blind followers" by A
- Replies: 33
- Views: 5526
Re: "What makes Bohras such Blind followers" by A
We accept the institution of the Dai and its hereditary succession- that's part of our fatimid-mustalian tradition.
You are way off the mark - the position of Daii is not hereditary. period.
Had expected something better from the flag bearer of progressives/reformists.
You are way off the mark - the position of Daii is not hereditary. period.
Had expected something better from the flag bearer of progressives/reformists.
- Tue Jul 15, 2003 9:11 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Question for Bohra clergy
- Replies: 40
- Views: 4578
Re: Question for Bohra clergy
Qiyam, during the waaz for Shahadat-e-Fatema , Aqa maula did mention the wasi's of different Prophets. For Musa, I think he mentioned Yushai which is the Arabic name for Joshua. Also Aaron was a nabi. "And mention Moses in the Book; surely he was one purified, and he was an apostle, a prophet. ...
- Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:50 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Question for Bohra clergy
- Replies: 40
- Views: 4578
Re: Question for Bohra clergy
Qiyam, I have heard that Sham'un ( which translates to Simon) was the wasi of Jesus. I do not remember reading it anywhere but I am quite certain. Could you please confirm this.
- Thu Jul 10, 2003 7:40 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Question for Bohra clergy
- Replies: 40
- Views: 4578
Re: Question for Bohra clergy
Please pardon my mistake. Aaron was not the wasi of Moses, I do not recall his name. Jesus's wasi was Sham'un though.
The position of Mustaqar Imam is higher than wasi.
The position of Mustaqar Imam is higher than wasi.
- Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:55 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Question for Bohra clergy
- Replies: 40
- Views: 4578
Re: Question for Bohra clergy
"If in Abraham's case, Ismail was Mustaqarr and Isaac was Mustawda, would it not make sense that Husayn was Mustaqarr and Hasan was Mustawda, since Imamat continued in Husayn's descendants? This is the view of the Nizari Ismailies. " That is not the belief of Dawoodi Bohras. Also a wasi ca...
- Tue Jul 08, 2003 1:33 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Question for Bohra clergy
- Replies: 40
- Views: 4578
Re: Question for Bohra clergy
Imam Muqim as referred by Ismailite is the Mustaqar Imam. Prophet Abraham was the mustaqar Imam. His son, Ismail was Mustaqar Imam whereas Isaac was the mustawda Imam. During Prophet Isaah(Jesus's time) the mustaqar Imam was Khuzaima. I do not recollect the name of the mustaqar Imam during the time ...
- Thu Apr 17, 2003 9:31 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Progressive Politicians
- Replies: 17
- Views: 2819
Re: Progressive Politicians
Danish,
Wake up! Smell the coffee ! Pope and a direct descendant of Jesus and Syedna Burhanuddin a direct descendant of Maulana Ali.
Shows a lot about your awareness.
Simon
Wake up! Smell the coffee ! Pope and a direct descendant of Jesus and Syedna Burhanuddin a direct descendant of Maulana Ali.
Shows a lot about your awareness.
Simon
- Mon Apr 14, 2003 11:46 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: My Ramadhan Gift to Br. Hassantayyebi
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1092
Re: My Ramadhan Gift to Br. Hassantayyebi
Serendipity, I had the good fortune of listening the account mentioned by you about the crystal vase and Imam Tayyib in this year's Muharram discourse by Syedna in Mumbai. The Prophet(PBUH) did not leave the community in limbo but left Maula Ali as his guide and he in turn left the Imams as his guid...
- Fri Feb 28, 2003 6:41 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Born Again Bohras
- Replies: 43
- Views: 4570
Re: Born Again Bohras
Humsafar, why are you so fixated by what was going on 20 years back. Can you go back 60 years. Have you seen how our grandfathers lived. I remember as a kid that all the elders ( I mean 60+) had a beard and used to wear topi all the time. All the 30+ did not have a beard. Our grandmothers used to we...
- Fri Feb 28, 2003 6:22 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Eid-e-Gadir-e-Khum
- Replies: 32
- Views: 5066
Re: Eid-e-Gadir-e-Khum
"The Jews said to `Umar, `By Allah! There is a verse that is read by all of you (Muslims), and had it been revealed to us (That is Jews), we would have taken that day (on which it was revealed) as a day of celebration.' (Note by MF: Celebrating this day as day of celebration was Jewish idea) `...
- Tue Feb 25, 2003 3:11 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Eid-e-Gadir-e-Khum
- Replies: 32
- Views: 5066
Re: Eid-e-Gadir-e-Khum
I think this slipped through the crack. Hoping to revive the discussion.