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So we will try and remake a community and what will you do? Keep complaining on this forum? Inaction is not revolution, whinging about past wrongs at the hands of perceived culprits is not it, waiting at the altar of some idealistic liberation in not a revolution. It is nothing more than providing ...

What revolution have you caused Humsafar? Have you managed to haul Muffy to court and put him on the defensive for 7 years? FD was your biggest and best opportunity to remake a community and you blew it because your head was too big but not big enough to hold your ego. The irony is that after years...

So this brings me back to the original point. It is all about the price you are willing to pay. Revolutions were not started, freedom was not attained by people who wanted to be seen as “believers in Moula.” It's funny that a Fatemi Dawat devotee -- a believer of a different Maulana -- should talk ...

The Bohra history includes imams who were kings and lived like kings and were known as tolerant and just rulers. Why focus on the duat who were poor? There is nothing in the books written by Syedna Hatim and his successors that says that one should not live well if one has wealth... why do you want...

Agreed Biradar, WhatsApp has dumbed down the whole world and especially Bohras. Also, the the succession dispute has distracted Bohras, creating further confusion among their ranks. The highhandedness of the mafia clergy has been discussed on this Forum for more than two decades, not only there's no...

The Bohra clergy and their followers clearly form a parasitic relationship. Without the adoring followers the clergy would be no more, but one must not underestimate the value which the mullah brings to the follower's life. Unfortunately, when you grow up in this community all your life is centered...

I think those woman are either jhahil or they are just mesmerized by bhaisahabs expensive watches and clothes and perfumes. Are you blaming the women?! I can expect an AHole like you to blame the women! How hard was it for the moronic Shehzada to stop the women from slobbering all over his hand? Is...

What Was the Zanj Rebellion? A remarkable episode of Medieval Islamic history that often goes untold. The Zanj rebellion of Black slaves, which took place in lower Iraq from 868 to 883 CE, is one of the remarkable episodes of Medieval Islamic history that often goes untold. Much of what we know abo...

Been thinking for a while to start this thread. The purpose is to curate events and episodes of Islamic history which are not commonly known. Or post about the known ones which have a new perspective or angle. Anyone can post articles/links here but please make sure that they come with source and re...

I don't know about your situation and who you take support from for spiritual matters. But please, please don't listen to Zakir Naik. He's worse than anyone who you can learn islam from for once i agree with him Agreed. This Zakir Naik character is radioactive. If you have a choice between him and ...

^Agreed! To put it in brief, as I've mentioned elsewhere, they are both cut from the same soiled rag.

Brother Bohra Spring, Please realise that nobody on the Forum speaks for PDB, we all comment as individuals. So if OzD was disappointed with certain individuals the whole group should not be blamed for it. The reformists in Udaipur I admit are quite conservative and would not like to talk about FGM ...

This is not completely true, but I would not comment any further until I know what is your definition of "conservative" and "liberal". i agree that not completely true. may be some are liberal but i was saying generally and majority of them. like they have have same views on fgm...

PDB are also very conservative, very far from liberal. their views on fgm and other are same as traditionalist. may be they started as liberals, but now nowhere near it. i have first hand experience. in fact, traditional qutbi bohras followers of stf are more liberal in their approach and wordly wa...

About-US--- Dawoodi-Boras.com We are Ismaili Fatimid Mustalian Tayyebi Dawoodi Bohras, a sect of Shia Islam. We accept the succession of Imams up to Imam Tayyeb and his progeny, and the line of Tayyebi Dais starting from Syedna Zoeb bin Moosa to the rightful successor to the 52nd Dai Sayedna Mohamm...

Agreed. Excellent post Biradar. Exactly my sentiments but as always expressed more eloquently than I ever could. Thanks.

Yes, and i can't stress this enough, but the line of Imam continues. If you go to higher sabaqs they even tell you name of Imams after 21st Imam. If you think of Imam as just a normal 2 year old child, i don't think you believe he was Imam. Imam Hussain only a day old helped a firishta in distress....

Firstly, if it was that incoherent, you would not have had such a substantial reaction :mrgreen: You are getting quite illogical lately. Hamasafar I am sorry you had a bad experience with SMB. I did not. I do not have to dismiss the many positive experiences I had being part of SMB’s daawat just be...

So nothing centralized and concrete? and stop derogating very people you want to help. Calling people names does not attract them to your cause.. it only antagonises them even more... Come to Udaipur brother and we will show you solid and concrete (I'm not sure what you mean by centralized) institu...

Hohoho Muffy ain’t no dai. He is not calling anyone to dawat. He did not even show his face the entire month a Shehre Ramadan! He cannot make up his mind about any policy! Is the best food that which you cook at home? Sure, but we will send you this mass produced second rate stuff anyway......Shoul...

Brother SBM, I don't think we are giving a free pass to STS. He of course is the original crook who laid the foundation of this corrupt empire. SMB built on that foundation, and I was trying to argue that SMB was not crafty and ambitious enough to create this cult around him on his own. His megaloma...

Biradar, Agreed, in the long view of history SMB is the bigger culprit no doubt and Muffy is merely continuing the cult - and with what vanity and shamelessness. But from what I have heard SMB was not that ambitious and not so sharp of mind or of cunning, so my guess is that this megalomania, this f...

SBM was a complex man. He was clearly concerned about the community, but his love for power and self-aggrandizement got the better of him. Muffy, on the other hand, really does not have the insane megalomania of his father. However, he is clearly a corrupt and fanatical person, who hates modernism ...

Hello Qutbi gang, please stop contorting yourselves into pretzels. Calling someone out on their appearance is just plain wrong. No ifs and buts. Just accept it, say you made a mistake, and move on. You discredit yourselves by offering torturous justifications.

Every Bohra should read this book. Can't recommend it enough.

Kafan dafan of imam is the penultimate ilm you or me as a mumin can get. Really? Kafan and dafan of a dead Imam is the source of penultimate knowledge? How so? Please explain. This is not a vain question. I really want to know. I mean once you have that knowledge what do you do with it? Does it hel...

@Humsafar & SMB, I apologize to you and anyone else who is and might be offended by my personal opinion about Mr. Asghar Ali Engineer. I can see that both of you have been contributing on this forum since many years, and acknowledge your resolve to stick around and try to enlighten people in th...

There's a whole section saying the choicest words for Engineer on their website. :mrgreen: Yup, this is a testimony to the teachings of "purest deen" and, of course, to the vile tongue of your master Mufaddal Saifuddin. You should be proud of yourself. It is also a testimony to the openne...

Agree with you Kseeker. But "educating" Bohras is a tall order. An individual here and there might see the light, like "awakendsoul" (http://www.dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11489), but for a real change to take place we need a mass awakening and that I'm afra...

Dear Sajjad Saheb, I'm not here to prove my credentials to you or anyone else. You're welcome to curse anyone you like to your heart's content. If that is what your "purest deen" teaches you to do then who am I to say or do anything. Glad to know that the Kothar is afraid of you, we need m...