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- Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:41 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Pope's resignation and Bohra doctrine
- Replies: 38
- Views: 8579
Re: Pope's resignation and Bohra doctorine
badrijanab, The girls case is in forum pages including the name of moallim etc. Regarding boy's abuse, I know the moallim personelly, and I have the proof. That is why he was ousted from jamia and banned from teaching children. but this is tip of the iceberg. it is happening day in and day out, not ...
- Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:21 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Pope's resignation and Bohra doctrine
- Replies: 38
- Views: 8579
Pope's resignation and Bohra doctrine
Pope Benedict has announced to step down at the end of the month. Though he cited health reasons, but it is hard to believe. None of the pope in 2000 years has ever abondoned papacy for health reason. A pope is a prepetual holding position, which goes along in the grave. There was one example in mid...
- Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:08 pm
- Forum: Islam Today
- Topic: Islam and Reform
- Replies: 0
- Views: 566
Islam and Reform
According to old arabic history, Abdul Mutallib, Prophet's grand father was hanif, Hanifs were mono thiests in arabia at that time. he believed in one god. Allah. that is why he named his son Abdullah, prophet's father. But he was caretaker of Kaaba, where Quraish had amassed idols for worshipping. ...
- Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:47 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Is sharia immutable, an article by asghar ali Engineer
- Replies: 1
- Views: 611
Is sharia immutable, an article by asghar ali Engineer
Following is the article published in todays dawn, Mr Engineer dwells on the need and justification of ijtehad and reform in religion. A good read. http://dawn.com/2013/02/01/is-sharia-immutable/
- Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:16 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Unjust biasness against Bohras practiced by Admin
- Replies: 16
- Views: 3185
Re: Unjust biasness against Bohras practiced by Admin
I agree that this forum is key to and only independent voice for bohra community. it has successfully highlighted high handedness and corruption in present administration. For the sake of fairness, in the topic it is not said, that those who were attending were sent by clergy or administration in th...
- Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:16 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Unjust biasness against Bohras practiced by Admin
- Replies: 16
- Views: 3185
Re: Unjust biasness against Bohras practiced by Admin
Admin; You did not move the topic "Bohras fall in feet of Modi" to here and now. I agree with badri janab that some times bohras are not treated fairly on this forum. I will give you one example, in which porus had created a topic regarding haj, but after verification he found out that it ...
- Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:31 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Weakness of Kothar is "Religion"
- Replies: 31
- Views: 4653
Re: Weakness of Kothar is "Religion"
Ikhwan as safa is not encyclopedia, ikhwan as safa was a secret society in 10th century A.D. in basra. they wrote risail ikhwan safa, epistle of brethern of purity. have you read risail, they are available in arabic, and are translated in english. they are amazingly ingenious. if the date of their o...
- Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:36 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Weakness of Kothar is "Religion"
- Replies: 31
- Views: 4653
Re: Weakness of Kothar is "Religion"
let me make it clear, I am not arguing with you, whatever i know i know through reading, some research in my free time. i was very keen to know our history, so i dug into it. you asked me to prove that there is "no fatimi sharia". Vice versa can you prove there is one, and based on what. y...
- Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:37 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Weakness of Kothar is "Religion"
- Replies: 31
- Views: 4653
Re: Weakness of Kothar is "Religion"
I do not want to reform the religion. so far as i understand, everyone here just reforms in administration. we want religious heirarchy to respect its followers human rights, treat them respectfully, not coerce them into money making zombies. we want an accountable administration, not an accountable...
- Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:36 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: saifee hospital got 35 crore in foriegn currency
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1238
saifee hospital got 35 crore in foriegn currency
I have come accross a document which shows, saifee hospital got fc donation of 35 crores. I dont know what was the total cost of the project. I am trying to find out who the foriegn donors were. A large part of it would be from foriegn jamats, if that is so, then we all should have a say in running ...
- Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:17 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
- Replies: 2710
- Views: 712410
Re: Mohurrum Tamasha: Its Hurricane Muffy After Storm Sandy
SBM, the kid is son of Malik Ul Ashter. it is really shame, and mocking whole muharram's solemn pledge, that a kid is delivering bayan or waaz, if you can call it a waaz. I dont know what manner and civilities these kids are taught, they dont feel ashamed of sitting in front of people of his grand f...
- Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:12 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
- Replies: 2710
- Views: 712410
Re: Mohurrum Tamasha: Its Hurricane Muffy After Storm Sandy
Mazoon saheb is in Toronto, he is delivering waaz there. it is really hard to make out what he is saying, and he just keeps on and on and on. I had heard that mazoon saheb is different and their family is educated one, but here I dont see much difference. he has no time limit, may be his bayan is fu...
- Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:05 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Bohra SMS Duniya
- Replies: 2710
- Views: 712410
Re: Mohurrum Tamasha: Its Hurricane Muffy After Storm Sandy
yes it is right they dont care. Cursing, abusing for historical events are utter ignorance. But it has and will fall on deaf ears. Having said that you did not have to copy it here, atleast explicitly. it was pertinent to point out that it is still going on, without copying the actual text. I f Koth...
- Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:49 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Please stop posting and talking
- Replies: 33
- Views: 6003
Re: Please stop posting and talking
Humsafar: I am not asking to shut down this site, but rather be careful about what we say. Phoenix: this is the mindset that has gotten us into this mess. Your stubborn view of your correctness and not respecting other's point of view. As you want to be free to observe your religion, you have to giv...
- Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:32 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Please stop posting and talking
- Replies: 33
- Views: 6003
Re: Please stop posting and talking
hamsafar, I am not taken in by any one. what i said is ground reality. in hyderababd sindh two bohras were killed and another injured seriously. I am not saying that this site is responsible for what is happening in karachi and pakistan. but i do fear that as internet access is there, they search ev...
- Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:14 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Please stop posting and talking
- Replies: 33
- Views: 6003
Re: Please stop posting and talking
I totally agree with phoenix, you guys are not familiar with ground realities in karachi or pakistan. i am not a big fan of our administaration, but it has to do with our brothers and sisters life. please do not post any comment about our community or our practices. if you do not want to be a part o...
- Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:07 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Targeted?: Bohra man shot dead near Hyderi
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2559
Re: Targeted?: Bohra man shot dead near Hyderi
my heart goes out to berieved family and his widow, now his brother is only bread earner. Haidri jamat is a shameless entity, its amil or functionaries did not do any thing to condole or console his death. jamat is shameless, selfish and corrupt entity bereft of compassion and kindness. jamat did no...
- Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:21 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Please enlighten me about the whole story
- Replies: 71
- Views: 20234
Re: Please enlighten me about the whole story
Yemeni do you guys have a leader, you said the doctorine is the same, so in satr there should be an appointee (DAI), DO you in yemen take syedna saheb as your dai, if you could apprise us how ismailis over in yemen are practicising tayebi faith. because in india, tayebis split after syedna dawood bi...
- Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:54 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Please enlighten me about the whole story
- Replies: 71
- Views: 20234
Re: Please enlighten me about the whole story
Brother Yemeni, I would like to know your take on it. What i have quoted is general history, how do yemeni ismaili doctorine percieve it. How do you see the infallability. I still am baffled this whole infallibility issue. I just cant imagine that a human cannot err. All these imams were human. In t...
- Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:16 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Please enlighten me about the whole story
- Replies: 71
- Views: 20234
Re: Please enlighten me about the whole story
further to that, if we take into account Imam Hakim's era, His period was at best could be illustrated as escentric. he tried to impose fatimid doctorine on main stream egyptians, who were sunni, and also desecrating jewish and christian churches in egypt, who were a sizeable minority then. Aslo Hak...
- Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:08 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Please enlighten me about the whole story
- Replies: 71
- Views: 20234
Re: Please enlighten me about the whole story
Brother yemeni, please tell us about yemeni aspect of this religion. As you said that the doctorine is changed. Can you enlighten us about arabic version of bohra religion. Are yemeni islmailis also called bohra?
- Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:50 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 467050
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMCISION
Polio shots cannot wait, school cannot wait. Circumcision can wait till child grows up. there is no specific age prescribed for circumcision. I dont know how authentic that article is, but if it is true then it raises a whole lot of question about sharia as we know it. But one thing that make sense ...
- Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:33 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Practice Of Female Circumcision Among Bohra Muslims.
- Replies: 1333
- Views: 467050
Re: FEMALE CIRCUMCISION
I usually do not comment on these things, as these are impossible to logically discuss. but now it seems that time has come to call spade a spade. without any reservation or obligation, i do think that our religion as practiced now is a religion of ignorant, mesmerize, hypnotized and brain washed an...
- Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:00 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Twin Blast in Bohra dominated area of Karachi
- Replies: 50
- Views: 14518
Re: Twin Blast in Bohra dominated area of Karachi
it was a reprehinsible act, and we should never blame the victims. and no one does. our heart goes out to the families of deceased and injured. No doubt pakistan is in total chaos, look what happened today in islamabad, karachi and lahore. it was same mob mentality and same outfits who are out to de...
- Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:37 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Twin Blast in Bohra dominated area of Karachi
- Replies: 50
- Views: 14518
Re: Twin Blast in Bohra dominated area of Karachi
We bohras have lost empathy for each other and for others since long. You have rightly said that our approach to life is utter selfishness. This has been bred into us since last 3 decades. Philanthropy does not exit and is forbidden. I know burhani and saifee hospital has 4 or 5 ambulances. And it i...
- Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:38 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Twin Blast in Bohra dominated area of Karachi
- Replies: 50
- Views: 14518
Re: Twin Blast in Bohra dominated area of Karachi
Lashkare Jhangvi is a banned outfit in Pakistan. it is an offshoot of sipah sahaba. their main aim is to kill shiite musllims. it is also on their manifesto. Irony is, they are all created by zia ul haque, whom syedna saheb had good relationship with, to the extent that syedna had sent him a letter ...
- Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:09 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Twin Blast in Bohra dominated area of Karachi
- Replies: 50
- Views: 14518
Re: Twin Blast in Bohra dominated area of Karachi
It is very sad. My heart goes out to those families who have lost their loved ones. It is reprehensihle in all its form. Those who have lost their lives have done nothing to deserve this. This talibinasation of Pakistan has wrecked havoc on the society. 3 month old baby and women and men are casualt...
- Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:04 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Why Is The DAI Not Held Responsible For Evils In Bohraism ?
- Replies: 36
- Views: 9346
Re: Why Is The DAI Not Held Responsible For Evils In Bohrais
Shiekh Amir bhai burhani ( rawalpindiwala) was a die hard fanatic. He was intrumental in implementing Dadhi, Saya topi etc in mid eighties, There were lot of resentment against him in local bohras. After acid throwing incident, he was almost abondoned by Jamat. they did nothing to eleviate his suffe...
- Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:23 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: "Royal" Family
- Replies: 69
- Views: 24719
Re: "Royal" Family
divinity: according to oxford dictionary divinity is "The godhead; God. Used with the. b. A deity, such as a god or goddess. 3. Godlike character. 4. Theology. 5. A soft white candy, usually containing nuts." about our royal family, let us rule out No 5, they are not "nuts". But ...
- Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:09 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: "Royal" Family
- Replies: 69
- Views: 24719
Re: "Royal" Family
Leo Tolstoy also said " “Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking...”
― Leo Tolstoy
― Leo Tolstoy