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by Average Bohra
Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:44 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: American Muslims: second-class citizens?
Replies: 27
Views: 3125

Re: American Muslims: second-class citizens?

Humsafar,

Please explain what you are talking about.

Anajmi,

You are making no sense whatsoever, delirious perhaps ?
by Average Bohra
Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:31 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: American Muslims: second-class citizens?
Replies: 27
Views: 3125

Re: American Muslims: second-class citizens?

In an unusual (and some would say un-American) move, prosecutors publicly named 307 individuals and organizations as "unindicted co-conspirators" (UCCs) relating to the HLF case. [/b] Just to set the record straight it is important to note that the "unindicted co-conspirators" c...
by Average Bohra
Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:56 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The Pillars Of Islam
Replies: 91
Views: 6058

Re: The Pillars Of Islam

LONDON (Reuters) - A group of British and U.S. Shi'ite Muslims said on Friday the Saudi religious police they accuse of beating them in the holy city of Mecca should be put on trial abroad. The eight male pilgrims, all of Iraqi descent, said they were beaten and detained overnight on Sunday by the S...
by Average Bohra
Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:34 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why is the Islamic world behind
Replies: 50
Views: 4624

Re: Why is the Islamic world behind

Truth Seeker, Posted by Anajmi: Hazrat Ayesha's age does not concern me. She was married to the prophet and that makes her the mother of the believers according to the quran. Herein lies the answer to your question “Why is the Islamic world behind ?”. They have been raised by a 9 year old and too sc...
by Average Bohra
Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:54 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Wahabi Greatest Hits
Replies: 40
Views: 2657

Re: Wahabi Greatest Hits

A bit of trivia: What is the average life expectancy of a Wahabi in the middle of downtown Iraqi Kurdistan proclaiming "Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction " ? Iraq was heaven before the US invaded, but you applied for an H1-B visa to get into the US. Were the lines to get into Iraq ...
by Average Bohra
Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:18 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Wahabi Greatest Hits
Replies: 40
Views: 2657

Re: Wahabi Greatest Hits

My apologies, the CPS is indeed charged with prosecuting these scumbags. This is an example of political correctness gone awry. These guys will probably get away with using the “taken out of context” BS.
by Average Bohra
Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:30 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Wahabi Greatest Hits
Replies: 40
Views: 2657

Re: Wahabi Greatest Hits

The source of your post is the attorney for these scum bags...brilliant Anajmi, brilliant !

PS: OJ Simpson's attorney's think he is innocent too ! :D
by Average Bohra
Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:00 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why is the Islamic world behind
Replies: 50
Views: 4624

Re: Why is the Islamic world behind

What will replace it? I don't know. Maybe something simpler, less rapacious, less competitive, less aggressive, less wasteful, less self/profit centred and more communal and community based

Also known as The North Korean model.
by Average Bohra
Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:26 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why is the Islamic world behind
Replies: 50
Views: 4624

Re: Why is the Islamic world behind

Humsafar, That response is predictable now; you don’t care to be bothered with specifics, just misrepresenting your opinions as fact. Civilizations did not rise or fall in a vacuum. History has documented or attempted to explain such cycles be it war, famine, innovation, drought, or disease. To extr...
by Average Bohra
Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:15 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why is the Islamic world behind
Replies: 50
Views: 4624

Re: Why is the Islamic world behind

Humsafar,

One can arrive at that conclusion if one vehemently believes in "history repeats itself". It sometimes does, when one does not learn from the lessons history teaches us, but it is a far cry to attribute the law of gravity to history and predict demise of civilizations.
by Average Bohra
Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:19 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why is the Islamic world behind
Replies: 50
Views: 4624

Re: Why is the Islamic world behind

Humsafar, You went from saying "thechnological advancement of the West too will disappear in the oblivion " to "I don't know. Nobody can predict. " and that is progress and I am in agreement with the latter. As far as "But you are greatly deluded if you think that your there...
by Average Bohra
Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:08 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Why is the Islamic world behind
Replies: 50
Views: 4624

Re: Why is the Islamic world behind

Originally posted by Humsafar: Lack of "technological advancement" (whatever it means) is not an exclusive fate of the Islamic world. If you don’t know what it means, how can you arrive at that conclusion ? As to why this is so, though the reasons are many and complex, the short answer is...
by Average Bohra
Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:50 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28
Replies: 264
Views: 16604

Re: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28

Originally posted by anajmi: Unfortunately, I cannot find an anti-Islamic author who will give out truth about how women are treated in Islam. Well then, let's start with a teaser dose of Anajmi quotes regarding how well women are treated in Islam Originally posted by anajmi: in Islam, a women is n...
by Average Bohra
Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:01 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28
Replies: 264
Views: 16604

Re: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28

You forgot to mention the 2 stuck on this board, unless they are busy being in Porus' buttocks and head respectively.
by Average Bohra
Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:13 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28
Replies: 264
Views: 16604

Re: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28

I agree with Humsafar that Wahabis are closest to adhering to the quran, sunnah and ahadith, but I would say that their beliefs are more "static" rather than "authentic". Reason being that they too engage in extrapolation and inference when it comes to interpretation of the Quran...
by Average Bohra
Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:35 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28
Replies: 264
Views: 16604

Re: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28

Originally posted by anajmi:
The direction facing mecca.
I would dump the $35 book you just bought. You are already smart enough to be a Wahabi.
by Average Bohra
Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:21 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28
Replies: 264
Views: 16604

Re: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28

Originally posted by anajmi:
Exactly half way around the globe from Mecca is the ocean.
As a sailor I must ask, what if you were on a sailboat half way around the globe from Mecca , which direction would you pray ?
by Average Bohra
Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:32 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28
Replies: 264
Views: 16604

Re: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28

Originally posted by porus: A devoted son of a father is the best authority for the father. He is also often the most biased and the least credible. Then again, that assumption would be generally true in the real world and not pertaining to religious matters. This entire discussion is futile as in ...
by Average Bohra
Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:02 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.
Replies: 24
Views: 2531

Re: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.

Yes, only some, predominantly right-wing media and country music radio stations whose fan base was outraged. Your emphasis on the word free is duly noted. Media is free when they agree with you. If they don't, then they are "free". Reminds me of the famous Henry Ford quote "Any custom...
by Average Bohra
Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:44 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.
Replies: 24
Views: 2531

Re: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.

Sure, some of them did. What is your point ?
by Average Bohra
Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:12 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.
Replies: 24
Views: 2531

Re: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.

Originally posted by Humsafar: That Dixie Chicks were boycotted without a Fatwa should be more worrisome to those who care about freedom, free expression and democracy. To the contrary, this is how free expression is supposed to work. Your elitist desire for control (the "thought police")...
by Average Bohra
Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:33 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.
Replies: 24
Views: 2531

Re: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.

Originally posted by porus: If you take a longer historical perspective I’m not; my post is based on current state of affairs and more importantly, alarming trends. When bigots smell blood and raise their voices, not many will come to the rescue of saner voices. Witness the farce about Dixie Chicks...
by Average Bohra
Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:41 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.
Replies: 24
Views: 2531

Re: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.

Porus, I strongly disagree with your contention that Islam is no more violent than other major religions. You appear to ignore (as all others on this board), muslim on muslim violence. The personalities you mention are arguably entertaining and not considered legitimate authorities or a source of ne...
by Average Bohra
Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:08 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Syedna saheb meeting with french deputy with bare legs
Replies: 12
Views: 1616

Re: Syedna saheb meeting with french deputy with bare legs

Her attire is conservative, formal and appropriate, unless Muslims wear suits to mosques when Bush arrives to declare it a religion of peace. Pajamas are bed attire in the West and it is considered innappropriate to wear them to get your newspaper from the driveway, let alone when the President show...
by Average Bohra
Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:10 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.
Replies: 24
Views: 2531

Re: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.

Originally posted by porus: Vast majority of Amricans are served bigoted view about Islam by the mainstream television and talk-shows. And they lap it all up. I'm lappin' <a href="http://www.nahrainnet.net/news/52/ARTICLE/10075/2007-07-19.html"> this</a> up, and it came from you and not t...
by Average Bohra
Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:33 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.
Replies: 24
Views: 2531

Re: Want to Understand Islam? Start Here.

The same can be said of Muslims but its is more drastic. They lap up a pretty healthy dose of non-Muslim bigotry. How many Muslims do you know of in India that invite a Hindu family over for dinner ? Racism against Blacks is prevalent, accepted and open in non-African muslim societies. Middle Easter...
by Average Bohra
Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:59 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28
Replies: 264
Views: 16604

Re: Ismaili Interpretation of 2.28

Congratulations Anajmi...best wishes to you and your family, hope baby boy and mom are doing well.
by Average Bohra
Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:31 am
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Islam-American Dreamers
Replies: 3
Views: 492

Re: Islam-American Dreamers

Muslim Americans are one of this country's greatest strengths By what standard ? Contribution by a minority to the well-being of the American public including non-muslims? The answer would be Jewish Americans and not Muslims. This is the problem with the mainstream American “feel good” media.. Musl...
by Average Bohra
Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:39 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ismaili Immamat
Replies: 146
Views: 10657

Re: Ismaili Immamat

You don't speak Arabic, you wouldn't know the difference.
by Average Bohra
Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:14 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ismaili Immamat
Replies: 146
Views: 10657

Re: Ismaili Immamat

Not to you, Hadiths don't contain them.