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by aftabm
Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:12 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ismaili Immamat
Replies: 146
Views: 10822

Re: Ismaili Immamat

Thanks JawanMardan for the info, though i think the monies should not go to Imam, atleast the jakaat amount. I have heard that there are few factions which have been separated from khoja community and are known as isna asjaari jamaat and sunni khojas. Could you please enlighten me regarding this???
by aftabm
Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:17 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: the azeem miracles of our syedna ..!!
Replies: 13
Views: 1870

Re: the azeem miracles of our syedna ..!!

Biggest Miracle....

Making more than 1 million educated people fool.....
by aftabm
Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:12 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: News from Mumbai
Replies: 36
Views: 3687

Re: News from Mumbai

Heard that BBBC r planning to organize some "Burhani Expo 2007" on 25-26-27 july.
and syedana saheb is planning to "grace" the expo on 25th. No wonder if it starts with purjosh matam.......
by aftabm
Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:45 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Ismaili Immamat
Replies: 146
Views: 10822

Re: Ismaili Immamat

JawanMardan,

forgive my ignorance but plz tell who collects the zakat monies from ismaili ummah....

and are there any more taxes like haqqun nafs,fitra and what nots....
by aftabm
Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:42 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: corruption
Replies: 119
Views: 7174

Re: corruption

I agree to your point likeminded...... To make the matter worse, its been said that there wouldn't be any further communication from almighty, since Prophet muhammed was declared to be the last prophet. There shant be any more messages from god. Why is it so, why would god do so. Why he would not ke...
by aftabm
Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:31 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: corruption
Replies: 119
Views: 7174

Re: corruption

Originally posted by truebohra: Most of the progressives Imaan has been corrupted. Their faith in Islam has also shaken. People like LM and JC have started worshipping hindus like Sri Sri Ravi shankar. What ever Sri Sri says is the truth for them. And All So called True Bohra's IQ (Imaan Quotient) ...
by aftabm
Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:47 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: IDENTIFICATION
Replies: 27
Views: 3821

Re: IDENTIFICATION

I m from Udaipur, now working in bombay
by aftabm
Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:40 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: For your views
Replies: 28
Views: 1744

Re: For your views

The scripture doesnt say anything about a woman being imprisoned in the house for 4 month and 10 days. It only specifies the length of time during which a widowed female can't remarry.

Keeping a woman in closed quarters is a really barbaric act and not justified by any means.
by aftabm
Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:46 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mr. S. Insaf
Replies: 25
Views: 2825

Re: Mr. S. Insaf

Originally posted by truebohra: LM ur running the hate campaign. Progs are Hate mongors. U people abuse Sayyedna (T.U.S). At least respect his position. Its the offical stand of Progs that Sayyedna (T.U.S) is the naib of immam-u-zaman (A.S) (correct me if i m wrong). Ur abusing the naib of Imam (A....
by aftabm
Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:07 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Progressive thinkers in hiding ...n why!!!!!
Replies: 18
Views: 1320

Re: Progressive thinkers in hiding ...n why!!!!!

I fully agree with you Makberi and AlZulfiqar that there are lot of reformists in closet. Thier reasons are justified enough, social stigma attached makes it very difficult for them to come out in open. But would it not worth coming out for the benefit of whole society?? I guess, things are now not ...
by aftabm
Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:46 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Intresting.....what others think of bohras....
Replies: 21
Views: 1542

Intresting.....what others think of bohras....

I have seen this on net and thought of sharing this with you....

Bohra sect "sent members to death in Iraq"
Do read the comments too.....
by aftabm
Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:43 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mr. S. Insaf
Replies: 25
Views: 2825

Re: Mr. S. Insaf

Profrog,

Which books you have read,or forget about reading, even heard of, so that you claim yourself to be the most devoted. Or is it a thorough brainwashing by kothar suffice to be a so-called-devotee of dawat.
by aftabm
Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:13 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Dawat e Hadiya trust UK
Replies: 45
Views: 10623

Re: Dawat e Hadiya trust UK

Its a simple calculation, keep sinning and then ask for Barkaat, of course it costs you....
by aftabm
Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:28 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Reformists and their Social Life
Replies: 38
Views: 4106

Re: Reformists and their Social Life

Dear Like minded.... lets not start blaming each other that who starts it and who comes to what. The bottomline remains that such foul language and calling each other names is not going to help us anyways, nor does it take us any where. If orthos(as u put them) come to mudslinging, let them do, or m...
by aftabm
Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:09 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Proggies & Mr Insaf ur comment on this
Replies: 18
Views: 1493

Re: Proggies & Mr Insaf ur comment on this

exactly my thoughts like minded....

unfortunately it has become a trend in all faith tht they have turned into mean of person glorification and epitomizing the person rather than faith itself.
by aftabm
Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:49 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Reformists and their Social Life
Replies: 38
Views: 4106

Re: Reformists and their Social Life

I have noticed that every one of us on the borad keep on digressing from the topic and come to mudslinging on each other, no matter who starts it. I mean, we all are grown up individuals and we dont need to condescend to this level. We can atleast be civil in the way we speak and debate and argue on...
by aftabm
Sun May 27, 2007 4:10 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Progressive!! Your Family With you or what???
Replies: 66
Views: 6096

Re: Progressive!! Your Family With you or what???

this one is dedicated to likes of Professor Pro_pigs, gulfs...

Ae Mouze e hawadis unko bhi de do char thapade halke se
Kuchh log abhi tak sahil se toofan ka nazaara kerte hai
by aftabm
Sat May 26, 2007 2:08 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Progressive!! Your Family With you or what???
Replies: 66
Views: 6096

Re: Progressive!! Your Family With you or what???

Professor Pro_pig We dont hate matam of imam hussain.... and just beating you chest for hours doesnt mean matam. We hate the mockery of matam, which is being used by bohra clerics to dissuade gullible populace from reality. Shabirbhai... numbers may be small, but the beleif has increased to a great ...
by aftabm
Sat May 26, 2007 1:57 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mullahs on the Mainframe.
Replies: 87
Views: 5427

Re: Mullahs on the Mainframe.

Dear Insaaf saheb, I have read the book, its a intresting one. Though author has taken a pro-syedana stand, but still i think its worth a read. Beside he has dedicated a whole chapter on dissidents. I guess he could not have conducted the study with out the permission and assistance from kothar auth...
by aftabm
Sat May 26, 2007 1:56 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Mullahs on the Mainframe.
Replies: 87
Views: 5427

Re: Mullahs on the Mainframe.

Dear Insaaf saheb, I have read the book, its a intresting one. Though author has taken a pro-syedana stand, but still i think its worth a read. Beside he has dedicated a whole chapter on dissidents. I guess he could not have conducted the study with out the permission and assistance from kothar auth...
by aftabm
Fri May 25, 2007 9:08 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: the dais family
Replies: 54
Views: 6677

Re: the dais family

I have a question...

Since suleimani, alavi and dawoodi bohras are all originated from same descendents, Who controls shrine of common Dais. For example, Syedana Zoeb, the first dai. Is it not a bone of contention among the supremos of diff bohra sects.....
by aftabm
Wed May 23, 2007 4:51 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: the dais family
Replies: 54
Views: 6677

Re: the dais family

Humsafar Nicely put. Fiction, myth and miracle are part of all relegions. then why make mockery of other relegions/faiths. Somehow i feel that more devoted ppl has become less tolerant about other's faith. No one denies their rightto profess and propogate thier ideas, but to mock and reject other's ...
by aftabm
Tue May 22, 2007 8:55 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: the dais family
Replies: 54
Views: 6677

Re: the dais family

Ponga Bohri...

Thats difference between you and me, you choose to disalign from the system, i choose to remain in the system. You have already declared that we will fail and i keep on fighting...

MF
I read the ayah u have quoted, it does not stop us from reforming the system.. does it.....
by aftabm
Mon May 21, 2007 2:27 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: the dais family
Replies: 54
Views: 6677

Re: the dais family

No it is not easy to get out, many a times it has been said on this very board how difficult the kothar makes it to get out. All the best to the reformists, but how are you going to win over the Satan, many have failed,he is still here and shall always.Allah's will. Only way to disassociate from th...
by aftabm
Mon May 21, 2007 12:16 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: the dais family
Replies: 54
Views: 6677

Re: the dais family

Br. Bohraji AS When person is exposed to fraud of Bohras, he looks for spiritual guidance somewhere else. Good for them and good luck to them. Dear MF, Such persons try to find a easier way out, and seek the guidance from some one else. Instead, they could decide to stay on, try and purge the syste...
by aftabm
Mon May 21, 2007 11:51 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: the dais family
Replies: 54
Views: 6677

Re: the dais family

Dear bohraji... Last i have heard of Taizoon BS, that he has shifted(hastily because of the zahit batin controversy) to Canada, or was it US..... As for Vladimir Ivanov, i could find this much... From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia V. A. Ivanow or Vladimir (also written as Wladimir) Alekseevich Iv...
by aftabm
Fri May 18, 2007 12:55 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: the dais family
Replies: 54
Views: 6677

Re: the dais family

Atba i malak jamaat fiasco, which apparently seems to be a great drama with a self styled imam being a central character and a fight over secession of power..

Self-Styled Imam Raises Flurry of Fatwas -yoginder sikand

May be dawoodi bohras are inching towards the same destination
by aftabm
Thu May 17, 2007 2:51 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: the dais family
Replies: 54
Views: 6677

Re: the dais family

Dear bohraji, i m not a shaikh or mullah..... and i dont want to be... i am born and brought up in a reformist family in udaipur..... I have given the source of the information too... the alaviyas info i got fron jonah blanks book. i keep on searching about bohra history, n whtever intrestin bits n ...
by aftabm
Thu May 17, 2007 4:07 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: the dais family
Replies: 54
Views: 6677

Re: the dais family

Artaliswala, or mehdibagwalas, Atba i malak jamaat vakili and badri group...a another schism.. and the story is quite intresting...

Here it is...
by aftabm
Thu May 17, 2007 3:59 am
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: the dais family
Replies: 54
Views: 6677

Re: the dais family

here is information about hebtiah bohra Hibtia Schism During the Ujjaini period the dawat suffered another schism, this one less disruptive than those of the past. In 1171/1761 Syedna Hibtullah was challenged by a young shaikh who 38 (coincidentally) bore the same name. Shaikh Hibtullah claimed that...