Dawoodi Bohra Forum

Your arguments are not new & are similar to what Wahhabi use for justification against Shias. With your points Shiasm has be thrown out. (I know this would be fodder to the fire for Wahabis on this borad) TB, It seems you did not read all the posts in my other thread. The Shias are not suppose ...

K54, Before asking any questions you should ask yourself one question. Are bohras following the basic rules of Islam as mentioned in holy quran under the present Dai? According to me the answer is NO. And if you guys are not following Islam then why do you want to dig into the history of Islam? Ari...

Bro SBM, For a Muslim Inshallah should always be on the tip of the tongue. Everything happens in this world with the will of Allah. A good muslim should never make futuristic predictions without using the word Inshallah. Even though the people who are writing for Syedna make these mistakes, Syedna a...

Dont tell me about the Wajebat, sabeel, silatul Imam, silah fitr etc. These are obligatory which every DB has to do. According to holy Quran only zakat is obligatory. The present Dai and his father have introduced N number of ridiculous and fancy taxes on poor bohras. Now you tell me, about the sca...

One who is infallible will never violated the principles of Islam If you believe that the current Dai is not violating any principles of Islam then please refute my first post in this thread in the light of holy Quran. The present Dai promotes human worship. He allows his followers to perform sajda...

However, Dai’s conduct violates the basic principles of Islam as mentioned in Quran given by the prophet to Muslims Nope, it doesn't. Just by saying NO you cannot justify the anti-islamic practices of the Dai. If you want to have a fair discussion please refute my original post in this thread with ...

K54,
Before asking any questions you should ask yourself one question. Are bohras following the basic rules of Islam as mentioned in holy quran under the present Dai? According to me the answer is NO. And if you guys are not following Islam then why do you want to dig into the history of Islam?

Paison ki pehchaan yahaan
Insaan ki kimat koi nahin
Bach ke nikal jaa iss basti mein
Karta Muhabbat koi nahin

Than Than ki sunoh jhankaar
Yeh duniya he Kaala bazaar
Ke paisa bolta hein
Ke paisa bolta hein

Tumhi mere mandir (Tumhi mera qibla) Tumhi meri pujaa (Tumhi meri namaz) Tumhi devta hon (Tumhi khuda hon) Tumhi ho maata, peeta tumhi ho Tumhi ho bandhu, sakha tumhi ho (My personal favorite) Tujhme Rab dikhta hein yaaran mein kyaa karoon Sajde sar jhukta hein yaaran mein kyaa karoon Mein tere pyaa...

Adam: Dawoodi Bohra is a name given to the Islamic , Ismaili, Fatimi Tyebi Dawoodi belief. As I have mentioned that Dawoodi Bohras under Syedna have stopped following the basic principles of Islam. This means that Dawoodi Bohras are not Muslims anymore which in turn means that they are not Ismailis...

The Dai has been appointed by the Imam. We will "follow" the Dai the same way we follow the Imam, unconditionally. Just like people followed the Prophets, as their leader. The Muslims follow holy Quran revealed to the prophet by Allah. Bohras follow the Dai who considers himself a Muslim ...

Adam, Please respond to this post. Since you believe in starting a separate thread for every topic I am starting this new thread for you. You have been asking a lot of questions to the reformists’ in-order to validate and verify their faith as per Dawoodi bohra religious beliefs. Now from what I und...

Finally the Muslim scholars are taking progressive steps to help destitute women. Banning triple talaq the way it is practiced right now and restricting polygamy is a sign of progressive Islam. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-02-05/india/31026460_1_triple-talaq-muslim-scholars-codif...

anajmi wrote:Good, so you understand that I am incapable of understanding you.

You are incapable of understanding anything and hence must stay away from this forum.

This post was specifically written for Anajmi who displays double standards on this forum. On one hand he support practices like triple talaq and halala because it is practiced by sunnis. Aarif, It doesn't seem like you were educated in a good school. You might want to educate yourself a little bit...

may be did you think that finally our shafiq bawa TUS may have some thing to do with this, narendra modi after meeting and getting blessing our shafiq bawa TUS has change of heart and helping muslims Narendra Modi is a pig. This means that Syedna invited a filthy pig in the masjid and blessed him w...

Thanks for posting the good news br. GM. The pig deserves this treatment. In fact US should pressurize UN to try this pig in the International court of justice for all the atrocities that he has committed. That may be the only way to make him pay for his sins.

I'm not saying this a "mere" Bohra issue, nor I'm saying that mine is a better argument. Brownie points, I'm not interested in. I love brownies so would not mind collecting a few points :) This is not the only issue that was ignored in the past. Issues come to light as history progresses....

Aarif, your battle with anajmi does not concern me, I only wanted show you your half-baked justification for FC. That you support or do not support it is immaterial. I don't think FC is part of the "core Bohra faith", it is not fundamental to their faith. Women won't stop being DB just be...

Aarif, in your eagerness to bash anajmi, you forgot to copy paste the full quote: "Circumcision is a Sunnah for men, and an honour for women," but there is some debate as to the authenticity of this hadith . The prophet also did not explicitly stop slavery, does it mean it is OK to keep s...

Well, we will always have idiots on earth. During the time of each dai mutlaq or futlaq, those who use their Aql as ordered by Allah in the Quran, will form a progressive group. Those incapable of thinking will be proud of their shortcomings and revel in their humiliation. Some people we should fee...

So then why do you want to ban triple talaq? I said bring your own interpretation of triple talaq. Looks like the Indian courts beat you to it. There is a disconnect here. What I want to ban is the right given to muslim men to divorce their wives at their own free will by uttering talaq three times...

If triple talaq is banned men will no longer be able to misuse their right. Triple Talaq cannot be banned because it is an ayah of the Quran. You can suggest your own interpretation of it. Read my post again. I have clearly given the example of Indian courts which have a procedure in place where a ...

Well here are my $0.02.. The modified version of divorce law adopted by India for its Muslim minority is a good start. I believe both husband and wife should have an equal say when it comes to such critical decisions. If the triple talaq right of men is banned it will automatically reduce the percen...

Now one fine day this guy decides that he is done abusing his wife and he wants to get rid of her. He immediately pronounces Talaq three times and divorces his wife. this is against the teachings of quran,Arif,show me if it so in quran. Now there are some key points to be considered out here. As pe...

Br. GM, Thanks for the welcome. Well in your long post you have not even addressed a single issue that I have raised in my post. My post is totally based on my personal observations of how women are treated in general by muslim men and not how the laws are interpreted by the clergy. And honestly I h...

Thanks Anajmi

The problem with Islam is it gives too many rights to man against woman which makes it completely one sided. Let's take an example of a Muslim man who keeps a beard, prays five times a day and regularly abuses his wife. He even beats her because as per Quran he is allowed to do that. Now one fine da...

Dear Arif, Assalamulaikum, 1.) At one point you say that the last Imam (AS) was a 2 year old boy and had no intelligence to establish the Dawat in which Bohras have faith, and in the very next statement you feel bad about an ( imaginary ) insult that i have done to the Imams (AS). I request you to ...

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