Concept of Infallibility

[anajmi]

Bro Muslim First,

Infallible doesn't mean you have special abilities or qualities.

[Adam]

whether you agree or disagree on the infallibility of the prophets, the quran and other such minor issues, both of you, as we all here on this forum, have to agree that the bohra dai is infallible.

Al Zulfiqar, the whole point of this thread was to discuss Infallibility in general and who is.
Discussing the Dai comes way later in the discussion. First discuss the Infallibility of Allah, then the Prophet and Panjatan. Then move on.

While Porus and Anajmi are having an interesting discussion, it's not necessary for you to intervene with ignorant comments.

@PORUS : Your patience is commendable

[Al Zulfiqar]

While Porus and Anajmi are having an interesting discussion, it's not necessary for you to intervene with ignorant comments.

adam,

i say that the DABR dai is infallible. whether the prophets, imams or panjatan were infallible or not is irrelevant and a very trivial issue. let us say it is proven by the very best islamic minds that all the prophets, panjatan and imams were FALLIBLE, even then it is incontrovertible that the DABR dai is INFALLIBLE!

now will you still claim that this is an 'ignorant' comment?

secondly, you dont get to judge what is relevant or not to any topic. you are on a PDB site, which is a privilege for you and not a right.

[Adam]

let us say it is proven by the very best islamic minds that all the prophets, panjatan and imams were FALLIBLE,

Wrong. We would first discuss the root of the matter. That is the Prophet being infallible.
If try to prove the Prophet wasn't infallible, the whole debate about the Dai would be unnecessary (whether it was true or not).

[Humsafar]

Here's the proof:
The Prophet is inafallibe because the Dai says so.
The Dai is infallible because the Prophet is infallible.

[Al Zulfiqar]

but the greatest infallible who ever lived is the present incumbent dawoodi abdebohra dai.

the proof?

he continues being infallible inspite of providing incontrovertible evidence to the world that he is FALLIBLE!

no prophet, imam or previous dai has ever been able to achieve this astounding feat!!!