Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

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Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby aqs on Mon May 14, 2012 4:45 am

A new scheme has been launched by Kothar or rather its old Qardan hasana scheme revamped in a new version. In this new scheme people contribute weekly whatever amount they can and the same amount is added by Jamaat and given to one person for 10 months. Idea behind is every one gets the sawab of giving qardan hasana by contributing any amount according to their capacity.

In my local jamaat every Friday people from Tanzeems go to every masalla and collects funds, no one is asked individually or any force is applied, Every person who gives gets a token no. and among the contributors one person gets 125k INR. whatever funds are collected, remaining funds are added by Jamaat to come to the figure of 125k.

Scheme has been started in many cities with different amounts given by jamaat to a individual where every one contributes to it.

Scheme looks good till people are forced to part away with money, till its voluntary it should be welcomed.

PS: all other old qardan hasana schemes are running as per their local Jamaats instructions.

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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby humanbeing on Mon May 14, 2012 4:48 am

What are the terms, conditions and process of applying for Qard-e-hasanat ?
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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby aqs on Mon May 14, 2012 4:59 am

humanbeing wrote:What are the terms, conditions and process of applying for Qard-e-hasanat ?


different schemes have different terms, check with your local Jamaat, they will inform you what is available for you.
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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby humanbeing on Mon May 14, 2012 5:10 am

Hi Aqs
I just asked for information. Alhamdullillah, I have funds to cover expenses. I don’t have much knowledge on how Qardana-hasenat system works.
One of the policy in Kuwait is
Any mumin can contribute a designated units into qardan-e-hasanat fund, in exchange of a certificate / proof of contribution which can be redeemed by the donor whenever needed. Usually after a time frame. If the donor wishes to withdraw claims on the donation he/she can do so. In other words a redeemable contribution.
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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby aqs on Mon May 14, 2012 6:15 am

humanbeing wrote:Hi Aqs
I just asked for information. Alhamdullillah, I have funds to cover expenses. I don’t have much knowledge on how Qardana-hasenat system works.
One of the policy in Kuwait is
Any mumin can contribute a designated units into qardan-e-hasanat fund, in exchange of a certificate / proof of contribution which can be redeemed by the donor whenever needed. Usually after a time frame. If the donor wishes to withdraw claims on the donation he/she can do so. In other words a redeemable contribution.


HB,

Qardan Hasana is not only to cover ones expenses, for that its Muwasat which is given on a non refundable basis.

Qardan Hasana scheme runs in different cities on different terms and condition depending on the local Jamaat.

But few common traits are

1) low amount given to DB's on equal installments without Gold
2) Amount ranging from few thousands to depending on the value of gold is given on behalf of gold kept.

Previously people had to go to Mumbai if they wanted to avail the scheme against Gold, but now different centers are opened mainly in Jamiat centres where the same can be done, this helps people on traveling expenses and risk of carrying Gold.
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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby Fateh on Mon May 14, 2012 7:22 am

aqs wrote:A new scheme has been launched by Kothar or rather its old Qardan hasana scheme revamped in a new version. In this new scheme people contribute weekly whatever amount they can and the same amount is added by Jamaat and given to one person for 10 months. Idea behind is every one gets the sawab of giving qardan hasana by contributing any amount according to their capacity.

In my local jamaat every Friday people from Tanzeems go to every masalla and collects funds, no one is asked individually or any force is applied, Every person who gives gets a token no. and among the contributors one person gets 125k INR. whatever funds are collected, remaining funds are added by Jamaat to come to the figure of 125k.

Scheme has been started in many cities with different amounts given by jamaat to a individual where every one contributes to it.

Scheme looks good till people are forced to part away with money, till its voluntary it should be welcomed.

PS: all other old qardan hasana schemes are running as per their local Jamaats instructions.


Please give actual meaning of qardan hasana as per Qur'an.
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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby aqs on Mon May 14, 2012 7:29 am

Fateh wrote:Please give actual meaning of qardan hasana as per Qur'an.


just wait for some time, Few people will be too eager to give you the detailed explanation.

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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby anajmi on Mon May 14, 2012 9:40 am

This is similar to a PONZI scheme under the guise of Qardan Hasana. Every person pays into this with the expectation that some day he will get the big payout, which is completely contradictory to Qardan Hasana where the reward is to be expected only from Allah. Besides, the people to derive the initial benefits are the people who started the scheme in the first place. After a few payouts to the conmen, the scheme looses steam and people go home when they see no benefit. In the meantime some people are laughing all the way to the bank.

People ignorant of the Quran and its purpose of Qardan Hasana will get easily fooled.
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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby think on Mon May 14, 2012 11:29 am

yes, the local jamaats are given a free hand in the distribution and that is the flaw in the system. In any town usa funds were collected from the mumineen by the goonda committee and most honest mumineen thought it was for a good cause, but guess what, all the fat cats and goondas of the committee spent the funds in buying houses for themselves which they could not afford .
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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby Muslim First on Mon May 14, 2012 11:34 am

aqs wrote:
Fateh wrote:Please give actual meaning of qardan hasana as per Qur'an.


just wait for some time, Few people will be too eager to give you the detailed explanation.


Br. Fateh
Due to intimidation from aqs and human info based on Qur'an was deleted by admin.
You are on your own.
Seek it and you will find it. send me PM, I will send you link
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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby anajmi on Mon May 14, 2012 11:40 am

I am not sure why the ayahs from the Quran about Qardan Hasana were deleted by the Admin. This behavior is similar to the kotharis preventing people from understanding the Quran.

Also, some progressives and orthos are complaining too much over here like whiny babies. Grow up guys!!
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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby Muslim First on Mon May 14, 2012 4:12 pm

aqs wrote:
Fateh wrote:Please give actual meaning of qardan hasana as per Qur'an.


just wait for some time, Few people will be too eager to give you the detailed explanation.


kardan-hasana as per Qur'an
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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby Fateh on Tue May 15, 2012 12:12 am

Muslim First wrote:
aqs wrote:
Fateh wrote:Please give actual meaning of qardan hasana as per Qur'an.


just wait for some time, Few people will be too eager to give you the detailed explanation.


Br. Fateh
Due to intimidation from aqs and human info based on Qur'an was deleted by admin.
You are on your own.
Seek it and you will find it. send me PM, I will send you link
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Thanks Bro MF,i already read your post before admin delete it,I also surprised why it was deleted but now i got the reason thanks again for giving valuable information.Keep it up
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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby humanbeing on Tue May 15, 2012 1:23 am

Muslim First wrote:Br. Fateh
Due to intimidation from aqs and human info based on Qur'an was deleted by admin.

Hey MF

That is a sheer LIE. I hope you realize your words and think about it. Admin has deleted post by Aqs and me, nowhere there was intimidation or objection to your post. Aqs merely stated that, any discussion becomes a catfight between shia-sunni divisive debates and one must refrain from it. He did not mention your or any name in particular. In my post, I appreciated your effort to share information of the topic.

I request admin to put back those post and let readers see it and decide themselves. MF, I appreciated your efforts of sharing knowledge, ignoring your hatred and foul words, but you disappoint me, and I know you don’t care. But if you believe you are a “true” Muslim, then think about your words.

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It would be very kind, if those post are reinstated or reason for deletion is mentioned.
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Re: Qardan Hasana - By the people for the people

Unread postby Muslim First on Tue May 15, 2012 5:48 am

Human
Never mind.
Its there on Islam page.
Those who are interested will go there.Otherwise Slaves will remain slaves.
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[Shakir 2:6] Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe.
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