badrijanab wrote:Beware: Isse tarha, jo ladka-ladki Sunni ya doosre firqe ke Molvi ke paas ja kar apne maa-baap ki raza ke khilaaf nikah karte hai, aur unke nikah me above shart'on ka palan nahi hoova to unka nikah invalid hai.
badrijanab wrote:See Progticide, they were our Mumineen and so were all these reformist Jamats and many more - they all left our fold because of Kothar wrong policy to stop access of knowledge of Fatimi Dawat to common Mumineen.
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mustafanalwalla wrote:Aur aap josh mein aakar hosh mat khoiye. Mutaah ko agar aap prostitution maante ho, to yeh kaise mumkin hai ki Mutaah ka zikr Allah (swt) ki kitaab, Qur'aan-e-paak mein maujood ho. Kya Allah (swt) apne Nabi ko aisi baatein naazil karenge? Khud RasoolAllah (saw) ki zaahiri hayaat mein Mutaah shaadi jaaiz thi. Yahaan tak ki Abu Bakr ke daur aur Umar ibn Al Khattab ke aadhe daur mein jaaiz thi. Iski daleel mein pesh kar sakta hoo.
anajmi wrote:There is no such thing as Temporary Marriage in Islam. Mutah is prostitution. It is Zina with paperwork. It is haraam. And I can give you a dozen links that say as much, but I won't. I will give you one simple argument. The argument from the Quran. The Quran says that you can have multiple wives only if you can treat them fairly. A mutah wife is not treated the same way as a normal wife. Infact, the difference is inherent in the agreement itself. Hence anyone who does a mutah marriage is going against the Quran.
Muslim First wrote:Brothers 6'U and H_S_U
Would you allow your sister to enter in Muta Marriage for one week?
If a woman is barren and the husband wants a child of his own and does not want a second permanent wife, what is he to do?
If a man or woman goes abroad to study or work for many years, how is he/she supposed to fulfil his/her sexual desires?
humanbeing wrote:Is women allowed the right to Temporary marriage ! with whatever circumstances mentioned for men ! can they apply to women too . After all men and women are equal in eyes of Allah !
Whatever be the circumstances, temporary marriages doesn’t make sense. It has loopholes of exploitation. When Mullahs and so called muslims can twist and exploit strict rules of Talaq and halalaa, Mutaah is far easy to be corrupted for men conveniently seeking religious stamp over their carnal lust.
anajmi wrote:If a woman is barren and the husband wants a child of his own and does not want a second permanent wife, what is he to do?
Adopt a child. Is that how shias think of woman? A child producing machine that can be discarded after production behind the facade of Islam sanctioned temporary marriage?If a man or woman goes abroad to study or work for many years, how is he/she supposed to fulfil his/her sexual desires?
Hmmm.... I thought it wasn't supposed to be about sex.
What if the person does not want an adopted child.
Hazrat Ali says: The Mut'a is a mercy from Allah to his servants. If it were not for Umar forbidding it, no one would commit (the sin) of fornication except the wretched (Shaqi; an utmost wrong-doer)."
badrijanab wrote:Sahih Muslim: 'Ali b. AbiTalib reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) prohibited on the Day of Khaibar the contracting of temporary marriage (Mutah) with women and the eating of the flesh of domestic asses. (Book #008, Hadith #3263)
anajmi wrote:What if the person does not want an adopted child.
Quran allows 4 marriages. If your woman is barren and if you are despearate for a child then get a second wife. If you are afraid you cannot treat them well, then divorce the barren wife and marry someone else. You cannot have your cake and eat it too!!
Consentual mutah is no different from consentual zina. Just because the parties know what they are getting into doesn't make it halal. And since when did the shia start following the examples of wahhabi saudis?
I have given arguments from the Quran, about why mutah is haraam.
anajmi wrote:Hazrat Ali says: The Mut'a is a mercy from Allah to his servants. If it were not for Umar forbidding it, no one would commit (the sin) of fornication except the wretched (Shaqi; an utmost wrong-doer)."
Correct. No one would need to commit fornication with mutah being around. If this is what Hazrat Ali has said then it is shameful!! And thank God for Hazrat Umar forbidding it.
You are thanking God for Umar forbidding something that the Prophet permitted.
We need to go to Quran and Sunnah.
Just because your woman cannot conceive, you will divorce her! Wow!
I seriously doubt the prophet (saw) permitted mutah. Please provide hadith where the prophet (saw) has permitted this.
Now that both of you believe that Mutah is Halal. Please answer following truthfully.
you are Wali of your young sister. A buddy of hers wants to enter Mutah relation with her for one week.
According to Shia Mutah fique they do not need your Raza.
How do you feel?
Straight answer please!
progticide wrote:badrijanab wrote:See Progticide, they were our Mumineen and so were all these reformist Jamats and many more - they all left our fold because of Kothar wrong policy to stop access of knowledge of Fatimi Dawat to common Mumineen.
Maloon Mubarak a.k.a Badrijanab,
Wondering why I called you "Maloon". Then read the reasons below;
1. You lied when you said that people left the DB fold because kothar stopped the flow of knowledge. Those unfortunate souls left because of their own political reasons and because of wrong guidance from their so-called leaders. And when right guidance returned to them, many reverted to their original DB faith in large numbers leaving you in a miniscule minority. The fact is that there are more learned people today in the DB fold with far exceeding knowledge of Fatimi Dawat then anytime before. This shows that flow of knowledge never stopped. The control over the distribution of knowledge was always there from the time of Nabi Adam A.s.. If that were not the case then there would never have been the need for an Asas to a Nabi to explain the Taweel of the scriptures to the chosen few. The Anbiya themselves would have explained the Tanzil and Taweel both, why have an Asas appointed at all. Didnt you read history from your Ustad Ahmedali on how lessons on Taweel and Haqaiq were imparted behind closed doors even during the times of Fatimi Imam's Kashf.
2. Just as you have mentioned in another post of yours about Mukhtar Saqfi being a Maloon because he acted without permission from Imam Ali Zainul Abedin, you too are acting against the wishes of the Imamuz zaman by making public the information and knowledge that has to be imparted only at the discretion and with the permission of the Imam's Dai during Imam's satr. Who has authorised you to publicly publish details and articles of DB faith? Hence you are a Maloon and deserve to receive Laanat.
3. You are a cheat and a traitor who after having received some secondhand knowledge from his Ustad has betrayed the cause of DB faith, and in the garb of Badrijanab, lying to be a member of secret society of mumineen, is publishing DB articles of faith on this forum. The very fact that you are publishing these details on this forum makes you anti-fatimi dawat.
4. The fact that you are using a pseudo-name of Badrijanab to publish these articles proves that you yourself know that you are doing something wrongful and sinful. Otherwise you would have continued using your original name. The fact that you continue changing your name on this forum again proves that you are aware of your sinful actions but still persist with continuing these acts. This makes you a Maloon; Laanat on you.
There are already reformists members on this forum who too do not approve of your actions and therefore they have leaked your identity, Mr. Mubarak.
Mutah which is made lawful by Allah(swt)
so please do not use words like prostitution for it.