religoinised institution

[aflatoon]

as far as my understanding of dawoodi bohra sect now it has become more or less an institution which has been religionised in which if you want to be in you have to pay 2 basic charges first one wajebats (annual membership fees) second one sabeel (monthly subscription) with many more charges and surcharges.

[humanbeing]

Its more like a socio-religious CLUB, where everything is becoming quid-pro-quo transaction wrapped under some fancy names.

Every mikaat is becoming transaction oriented in disguise of Nizaam and organization.

This year Ramadan in Kuwait, Central Markaz Ardiya’s Masalla seating spaces were leased at KD 7 per adult and KD 3 per child. Inspite of this organization (Nizaam) tax, bohras were pressured / influenced for negotiated hoobs.

For lailatul Qadr, entire layout of Central markaz (Hussainiya) was divided into masalla blocks and guests could select at click of the mouse on the slots to sit with their dear ones. Various categories were color coded. An application similar to those in Cinema halls.

Every mikaat or general expenses of local jamaat also is now extracted from common bohras inspite of Monthly sabeel subscription and annual wajebaat collected.

In recent days, Central markaz (Hussainiya) was renovated at regular intervals and every time commoners were cajoled to shell out some hoob for up gradation. Cost presented seemed very inflated and ofcourse who can dare ask for Accounts (Hisaab)

Qibla wall was constructed at cost of KD 20 000. This is hilariously inflated amount to build a Qibla wall !

Every service that is seeked from kothar is price and fees oriented plus a customary money salaam.

[ghulam muhammed]

For lailatul Qadr, entire layout of Central markaz (Hussainiya) was divided into masalla blocks and guests could select at click of the mouse on the slots to sit with their dear ones. Various categories were color coded. An application similar to those in Cinema halls.

Dont you see the larger then life TV screens in Masjids ? Where else do you see those except in video parlours which are the mini version of cinema halls.

[ozmujaheed]

Idea during live telecast there should be commercial breaks where they advertise latest Najwa rates, news brief of which person did latest ziafats , adverts for encouraging abdes to next years Muharram location, ziyarat

While the abdes are emotionally charged a sheikh with thali should go around ?

Oops sorry guys this message was to be released in 2014, please maaf and ignore

[Fateh]

Idea during live telecast there should be commercial breaks where they advertise latest Najwa rates, news brief of which person did latest ziafats , adverts for encouraging abdes to next years Muharram location, ziyarat

While the abdes are emotionally charged a sheikh with thali should go around ?

Oops sorry guys this message was to be released in 2014, please maaf and ignore

Wow you portrait a nice trailer of 2014 so do not feel sorry my friend.

[aflatoon]

in all this melodrama islam is lost and we have to seriously think as we are the ones who will be answering in our graves for our deeds and Allah Swt will not buy our theory that we followed our forefathers any advice from either side of the divide with logical reasoning would be appreciated.

[ghulam muhammed]

in all this melodrama islam is lost and we have to seriously think as we are the ones who will be answering in our graves for our deeds and Allah Swt will not buy our theory that we followed our forefathers any advice from either side of the divide with logical reasoning would be appreciated.

And therein lies the test of Allah (swt) ! The one who uses his intelligence and power of reasoning and chooses to strive to seek and obey the Truth, has been promised the Mercy and Forgiveness of the Merciful Lord.

The one who refuses to use his faculty of intelligence, and chooses to deny the importance of the Truth revealed by the All Mighty Creator, will deserve the Wrath and Anger of the All Mighty Lord!

If your heart is not absolutely content and satisfied with the religion of your forefathers, where man is subjugated by man, where man invokes and worships human beings, where man bows down in ‘sajdah’ to another man, where man is recognized as ‘abde-syedna’ (slave of syedna); if your conscience screams from your heart that something is wrong in the path chosen by your forefathers, then it would not be wisdom to keep following falsehood! It is obligatory on every human being, who has been bestowed with wisdom, intelligence, and power of reasoning from his Lord, that he strive to seek and obey only the Truth from his Lord!

Following a ‘deen’ or way of life, just because one’s forefathers followed it, will not be accepted as an excuse in the Just Court of Allah (swt) ! That is exactly what every people said to the Prophets of Allah who came to them with the Truth!

Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 2 Surah Baqarah verse 170-171: When it is said to them, “Follow the Commands that Allah has sent down”, they reply, “We will follow only what we found our forefathers practising.” Well, will they go on following their forefathers even though they did not use common sense and did not find the Right Way! The mental condition of those who rejected the way of Allah may be likened to that of the cattle whom the shepherd calls but they hear nothing except the sound of shouts and cries. They are deaf, they are dumb, they are blind; therefore they do not understand anything.

Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 31 Surah Luqman verse 21: And when it is said to them, “Follow what Allah has sent down”, they say, “We shall only follow that upon which we found our forefathers.” What! Will they still be following them even if Shaitaan had been calling them to the raging Fire?

Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 34 Surah Saba verse 43: When Our clear Revelations are recited to these people, they say, “This person only wants to turn you away from those deities whom your forefathers have been worshipping.”

Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 43 Surah Zukhruf verse 22-25: Nay! But they say, “We found our forefathers on a way and we are only walking in their footsteps.” Even so, whenever before you We sent a warner to a habitation, its people of means said, “We have found our forefathers on a way and we are only following in their footsteps.” Every Prophet asked them, “Will you still go on following the same old way even if I guide you to a more right way than that you found your forefathers following?” They replied, “We disbelieve the religion with which you have been sent.” Consequently, We took vengeance on them. Just consider what was the end of those who denied.

[aflatoon]

Thanx bro Gm,

I understand every thing but the problem is that if you get opposition from your immediate family regarding matter of faith then it will be difficult for us convince them .

[ghulam muhammed]

I understand every thing but the problem is that if you get opposition from your immediate family regarding matter of faith then it will be difficult for us convince them .

I know that it is easy to say but difficult to do but then that is the real test of one's Iman and love of Allah (swt) and Prophet (s.a.w.) and his Deen. The path to Allah (swt) is never easy and there are scores of incidents to prove the same. Hazrat Bilal (r.a.) was flogged on the scorching sands of Madina but he didnt deviate from his beliefs at all.

This is a test which all have to undergo and which decides ones fate in the afterlife.

We all know that our parents, family and society are not going to come in our grave to plead for us. Each one is responsible for his/her deeds and any excuse whatsoever will not be accepted by Allah (swt).