darees and misaak.
darees and misaak.
what is darees and what is the purpose of it? In my young age growing up in bombay i never heard of darees. yes, it was common for me to recite yaseen , inna fatahna and other quranic verses in the morning hours. which I still do today. why now there has to be a special occasion to recite yaseen . it seems evereyone is asked by the local amil to do darees. can someone please explain the purpose of getting everybody together to recite yaseen?
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toadd to darees I still am confused about misaak. . Why do i have to give misaak several times a year. was once not enough. The local amil is bent on taking misaak every chance. on the ninteenth of ramadan there was misaak. now gadeer a khum is approaching and again there is misaak. can someone please explain why the need for misaak several times a year.
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Frustrated.Mumin
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Brother Mumin:mumin wrote:can someone please explain why the need for misaak several times a year
The Amil of Mississauga was asked the same question in Ramadhan this year and his ridiculous answer was that misaak is equivalent to anti-virus software. The same way that spam, junk mail and attachments can contain computer viruses which can crash a computer hard-drive, a mumin is faced with similar "attacks" everyday by immoral activities in the media, temptations, etc. Misaak acts as the anti-virus and cleans out the system.
The reason for the darees was very humble and charitable. A mumin would invite the madrassa/daraas teachers to his home and would do their khidmat, give them sherbet and do a thaal for them. Remember, in the days of the previous Dais, the daraas teachers were very pious and highly educated people. These daraas teachers would recite yasin and would take wasilas, especially of Syedna Hatim, that all the umeeds of their host are fulfilled. Today, the concept of darees has been forgotten and instead it has become another opportunity for Bohras to socialise, eat and do mataam.
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Are you all blind?
ITS SIMPLE BUSINESS, a money making racket. Wake up, get up, throw these so called religious leaders out.
Why cant you all simply boycott these hangama business? Have you no pride or selfrespect?
ITS SIMPLE BUSINESS, a money making racket. Wake up, get up, throw these so called religious leaders out.
Why cant you all simply boycott these hangama business? Have you no pride or selfrespect?
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Darees is a majlis, supposedly, in commemoration of Sayedna Hatim, the third Dai.
A Darees booklet specifies a sequence of rituals. I have not read it. However, I have attended one and this is what goes on.
Quran paras are distributed for individuals to recite silently. This is followed by en-masse recitation of Surah Yaseen. (What a cacophony of disgraceful noise! Is that the way to recite the Quran!! Shame, shame.) Then, an individual recites a madeh for Sayedna Hatim.
This is followed by marsiyas and pur josh maatam. There may also be a bayaan from Amil before or after maatam.
Then there is jaman.
A darees is recommended for any occasion: birthday, misak, death anniversary etc. A person who holds darees obtains razaa from Amil (for a salaam) and invites mumineen to participate. Before the jaman, the holder again does salaam to Amil. (Salaam means money for Amil, as if you guys needed to be told that!)
After jaman, it is the end.
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Etymology of the word ‘Darees’:
It might be thought that the word is related to ‘dars’ having a meaning in connection with teaching/learing/lesson. But ‘darees’ has two meanings:
1. Dried Clover. The seeds of clover are used for herbal tea or sprinkling in foods to give honey-like sweetness.
2. An old piece of cloth or carpet.
I leave you to suggest a connection between these two and a pre-jaman ritual of pur josh maatam, etc.
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Misaak is simply an opportunity for Amil to make money. Naturally, the more often it is held, the better for the Amil. In the old days, Misak was held on the day to mark Ghadeer-e-khum. A recent innovation is that after the misak is taken, Amil calls mumineen four at a time to give them individual reinforcements of their misaak. The four dutifully hand over money (do the salaam).
I like the anti-virus analogy. Perhaps the amil should be told that just as there are so many free anti-viral programs now available, so also the daily namaaz is a more potent anti-viral than a million misaks.
A Darees booklet specifies a sequence of rituals. I have not read it. However, I have attended one and this is what goes on.
Quran paras are distributed for individuals to recite silently. This is followed by en-masse recitation of Surah Yaseen. (What a cacophony of disgraceful noise! Is that the way to recite the Quran!! Shame, shame.) Then, an individual recites a madeh for Sayedna Hatim.
This is followed by marsiyas and pur josh maatam. There may also be a bayaan from Amil before or after maatam.
Then there is jaman.
A darees is recommended for any occasion: birthday, misak, death anniversary etc. A person who holds darees obtains razaa from Amil (for a salaam) and invites mumineen to participate. Before the jaman, the holder again does salaam to Amil. (Salaam means money for Amil, as if you guys needed to be told that!)
After jaman, it is the end.
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Etymology of the word ‘Darees’:
It might be thought that the word is related to ‘dars’ having a meaning in connection with teaching/learing/lesson. But ‘darees’ has two meanings:
1. Dried Clover. The seeds of clover are used for herbal tea or sprinkling in foods to give honey-like sweetness.
2. An old piece of cloth or carpet.
I leave you to suggest a connection between these two and a pre-jaman ritual of pur josh maatam, etc.
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Misaak is simply an opportunity for Amil to make money. Naturally, the more often it is held, the better for the Amil. In the old days, Misak was held on the day to mark Ghadeer-e-khum. A recent innovation is that after the misak is taken, Amil calls mumineen four at a time to give them individual reinforcements of their misaak. The four dutifully hand over money (do the salaam).
I like the anti-virus analogy. Perhaps the amil should be told that just as there are so many free anti-viral programs now available, so also the daily namaaz is a more potent anti-viral than a million misaks.
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Al Zulfiqar
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the darees as it exists today is definitely an innovation and not more than 15-20 yrs old at the most. people have always done a majlis for syedna hatim after their minnat to him was fulfilled, out of love and gratitude. but it was not so common and de rigeur as it is now.
it seems to have metamorposed into some sort of compulsory activity which you must do in your house or markaz atleast once every few years, esp. in a new house, or whenever the local amil demands it. it has evolved into a show-off competitive event with lavish food and decorations and hefty salaams for the amil of course.
lately, it is being used by cunning amils as an excuse to come and 'check' out yr house and your status, thus marking you for next years vajebaat and extra funds if required. so, many reluctant bohras who prefer keeping their distance from the amil and chamchas are arm twisted to hold a darees and they dare not refuse, esp. when it is sold to them as bringing barakat to their home and business etc.
trust the wily banias to come up with shrewd schemes to kill several birds with one stone..!!!
it seems to have metamorposed into some sort of compulsory activity which you must do in your house or markaz atleast once every few years, esp. in a new house, or whenever the local amil demands it. it has evolved into a show-off competitive event with lavish food and decorations and hefty salaams for the amil of course.
lately, it is being used by cunning amils as an excuse to come and 'check' out yr house and your status, thus marking you for next years vajebaat and extra funds if required. so, many reluctant bohras who prefer keeping their distance from the amil and chamchas are arm twisted to hold a darees and they dare not refuse, esp. when it is sold to them as bringing barakat to their home and business etc.
trust the wily banias to come up with shrewd schemes to kill several birds with one stone..!!!
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Agreed fully with Anwar and Al Zulfikar.
These two occasions are just money-making, to get more and more salams to more and more amils and chamchas, and do that halla gulla (read Matam) and eat a lavish jaman.
AZ you are very right, the amil and chamchas come and assess your standing by visiting your house. Next time, you argue on vajebat, they will tell you, you have this and that at your house and so must pay and pay. There are so many idiots in Toronto and Mississauga who 'routinely' do darees at thier homes, and to me just waste money. The shrewd dictators are making this habit....... now, they want to even penetrate your house, tomorrow who knows they will ask for the details of your expenses, income, the list will be endless.
Kothar wants to have a 1% filthy rich ruling class and 99% SLAVES. The relationship would of Master and Slave.
These two occasions are just money-making, to get more and more salams to more and more amils and chamchas, and do that halla gulla (read Matam) and eat a lavish jaman.
AZ you are very right, the amil and chamchas come and assess your standing by visiting your house. Next time, you argue on vajebat, they will tell you, you have this and that at your house and so must pay and pay. There are so many idiots in Toronto and Mississauga who 'routinely' do darees at thier homes, and to me just waste money. The shrewd dictators are making this habit....... now, they want to even penetrate your house, tomorrow who knows they will ask for the details of your expenses, income, the list will be endless.
Kothar wants to have a 1% filthy rich ruling class and 99% SLAVES. The relationship would of Master and Slave.
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dear bro. jc,JC wrote: Kothar wants to have a 1% filthy rich ruling class and 99% SLAVES. The relationship would of Master and Slave.
it already is the relationship of slaves and master!!
dont we all call ourselves 'abde syedna'? abde=slave.
dont we sing that we will donate our 'khaal' to make jootis for syedna?
dont we keep a rumaal on our hand and are not allowed to touch syedna unless we hold a money filled envelope in our hand?
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The Daris was innovated at the time when a fatwa against interest proclaimed and a terror imposed against the bohras who works with banks and deals with interests.
There is no hidden meaning in this. It is as simple as in Gujrati bohras are confirming every time when they keep Daris at home or masjid that હું દરીશ
There is no hidden meaning in this. It is as simple as in Gujrati bohras are confirming every time when they keep Daris at home or masjid that હું દરીશ
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Al Zulfiqar
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bro. maqbool,
although a nice play on words, the sad part is that the kothar today has sullied even the memory of a great man like syedna hatim by making him as another tool to oppress bohras and force them into holding majlises in his name.
salaam lo, khana khao, maatam karo.. mission fulfilled!
although a nice play on words, the sad part is that the kothar today has sullied even the memory of a great man like syedna hatim by making him as another tool to oppress bohras and force them into holding majlises in his name.
salaam lo, khana khao, maatam karo.. mission fulfilled!
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Darees is similar to Christian home party I attended sometime back in Australia.. where people get together invite the local priest ..socialises and thereafter prayers and "salvation" stuff, sermons..the only difference was the local Christian priest was happy to have been invited for lunch ..no money or Salam was exchanged and the local priest ate from the same buffet, plastic plate and sat on a chair while I was on the sofa ..quite modest
I listened to a bit of Muslim bashing as not to dis-similar to Munafikin bashing in our Ganu jiwo ganu jiwo ...the priest was embarrassed when he realised half way I was Muslim !
I listened to a bit of Muslim bashing as not to dis-similar to Munafikin bashing in our Ganu jiwo ganu jiwo ...the priest was embarrassed when he realised half way I was Muslim !
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The latest innovation “Drees” is demanded in the name of Sayedna Hatim. The Kothar (now known as Hazrate-Imammiyah) has recently introduced many Arabic sounding words like Darees for Jaman, Mavaid for Jamatkhana, Milad for Saalgirah of Sayedna, Anjuman for Jamaat, Nawazishat for sale of titles like Shaikh, NKD, Kalamate-Nooraniya for words spoken by Sayedna, Hazrate-Imamiyah for the establishment of Sayedna etc.
Darees in Arabic at the most can be translated as “Dining table”. How can it be related to a noble soul like of Sayedna Hatim. The name of Sayedna Hatim is being exploited today to play with the sentiments of Bohras in order to extort money from them.
Therefore I think it will not be out of place to know what Sayedna Hatim was and how the word “Darees” originated.
Sayedna Hatim s/o Sayedna Ibrahim –al-Hamid (Kuddsullaho ruhaho) was the 3rd Bohra Yemeni Dai. His Dawat was limited to the I-land of Yemen only. He lived a simple life of devotion like Hazarat Ali ibne Talib. He used to grow date trees for his income and survival. He never used a pie from Baitul-Mal (public treasury) for his personal needs. He used to keep the students in his own house and give them “Daras” (religious education) and feed them from Baitul-Mal in day time. In the night he used to write books for the guidance of people.
The following is the list of books written by him:-
1. Tanbihul-Gafileen, 2. Mafakhir-val-ma’asheer, 3. Mafatihul-kunz, 4. Shumusuz Zahireen, 5) Tohfatul Quloob, 6. Tohfatul Quloob fi tartibilhudood, 7 . Mafatihun naimaat, 8. Jame-ul Haqaaiq, 9. Tazkeera, 10. An Naqad, 11. Majalisul Azhar, 12. Al Ahsan fi Khalekil Insaan, 13. Al Masaalik, 14. Jamesul Hatimiyah, 15. Majalis Kabeer, 16. Zehro Bazreel Haqaaiq, 17. Masabihul-Haqaaiq.
Sayedna Hatim stayed in Hariz but he faced strong opposition from a group in Sana. He therefore had placed his Mazoon Sayedi Mohammad bin Tahir and after his death his Mazoon Sayedi Ali bin Mohammad bin Valid in Sana, who were instructed to personally discuss the matter with the opponents showing utmost love and respect to them and argue with them on the basis of books written by him.
Sayedna Hatim cared for the poor and took great care in spending the Baitul-Mal money among them. He himself used to live such a simple life that often visitors used to wonder.
He died on 7th January 1199. It is a record that a large numbers of his opponents were present in his funeral.
His Daras had become very popular as it produced many virtuous personalities and it remained in the memory of the Bohras. Following his footsteps 43rd Dai Sayedna Abde Ali Saifuddin Saheb had established “Saifee Daras" in Surat which is now named as Jamiya Saifiya.
But the present Sayedna started “Darees” instead of Daras in the name of Sayedna Hatim.
If a person delebrately wastes his time in the activities of self-glorification, in unnecessary rituals like Qadambosi, Vadhavni, Ziyafat, in meeting politicians to present them gifts and has no time to read and think and enhance his knowledge, can he ever find time to write so many books and provide guidance?
As for Misaq is concerned it was for Imam and not for Dai and it was a political necessity during the Ismaili Imams’ underground movement. Later on the Misaq for Imam became customary ritual during Dawat’s period till it was manipulated by Sayedna Taher Saifuddin by adding Dai with Imam and made compulsory condition of being a Dawoodi Bohra in order to establish his absolute control over the community.
They talk so much about Sayedna Hatim but conveniently forget what the same Sayedna Hatim had said in his book Tohfatul Quloob about Misaq:
“It does not behove a Dai to subscribe a single word of the Misaq towards himself.”
Sayedna Hatim has also reproduced the “Caution” which original writer of “Qualifications of A Dai-ul-Mutlaq”, Ahmed bin Mohammad Neshapuri has given in the footnote that:-
“If a Dai does not posses the qualities these qualifications in reality and is called Dai, then it is only without meaning. It will not benefit. It is useless to hope for any spiritual profit from such Dai. Such Dai is a sin and he is a sort of burden over the community. “
It is a fact that present Dai does not posses a single quality out of 94 qualities prescribed by Ahmed Neshapuri and Sayedna Hatim. Therefore it is necessary that this warning or caution should be read out loudly in each Drees.
Darees in Arabic at the most can be translated as “Dining table”. How can it be related to a noble soul like of Sayedna Hatim. The name of Sayedna Hatim is being exploited today to play with the sentiments of Bohras in order to extort money from them.
Therefore I think it will not be out of place to know what Sayedna Hatim was and how the word “Darees” originated.
Sayedna Hatim s/o Sayedna Ibrahim –al-Hamid (Kuddsullaho ruhaho) was the 3rd Bohra Yemeni Dai. His Dawat was limited to the I-land of Yemen only. He lived a simple life of devotion like Hazarat Ali ibne Talib. He used to grow date trees for his income and survival. He never used a pie from Baitul-Mal (public treasury) for his personal needs. He used to keep the students in his own house and give them “Daras” (religious education) and feed them from Baitul-Mal in day time. In the night he used to write books for the guidance of people.
The following is the list of books written by him:-
1. Tanbihul-Gafileen, 2. Mafakhir-val-ma’asheer, 3. Mafatihul-kunz, 4. Shumusuz Zahireen, 5) Tohfatul Quloob, 6. Tohfatul Quloob fi tartibilhudood, 7 . Mafatihun naimaat, 8. Jame-ul Haqaaiq, 9. Tazkeera, 10. An Naqad, 11. Majalisul Azhar, 12. Al Ahsan fi Khalekil Insaan, 13. Al Masaalik, 14. Jamesul Hatimiyah, 15. Majalis Kabeer, 16. Zehro Bazreel Haqaaiq, 17. Masabihul-Haqaaiq.
Sayedna Hatim stayed in Hariz but he faced strong opposition from a group in Sana. He therefore had placed his Mazoon Sayedi Mohammad bin Tahir and after his death his Mazoon Sayedi Ali bin Mohammad bin Valid in Sana, who were instructed to personally discuss the matter with the opponents showing utmost love and respect to them and argue with them on the basis of books written by him.
Sayedna Hatim cared for the poor and took great care in spending the Baitul-Mal money among them. He himself used to live such a simple life that often visitors used to wonder.
He died on 7th January 1199. It is a record that a large numbers of his opponents were present in his funeral.
His Daras had become very popular as it produced many virtuous personalities and it remained in the memory of the Bohras. Following his footsteps 43rd Dai Sayedna Abde Ali Saifuddin Saheb had established “Saifee Daras" in Surat which is now named as Jamiya Saifiya.
But the present Sayedna started “Darees” instead of Daras in the name of Sayedna Hatim.
If a person delebrately wastes his time in the activities of self-glorification, in unnecessary rituals like Qadambosi, Vadhavni, Ziyafat, in meeting politicians to present them gifts and has no time to read and think and enhance his knowledge, can he ever find time to write so many books and provide guidance?
As for Misaq is concerned it was for Imam and not for Dai and it was a political necessity during the Ismaili Imams’ underground movement. Later on the Misaq for Imam became customary ritual during Dawat’s period till it was manipulated by Sayedna Taher Saifuddin by adding Dai with Imam and made compulsory condition of being a Dawoodi Bohra in order to establish his absolute control over the community.
They talk so much about Sayedna Hatim but conveniently forget what the same Sayedna Hatim had said in his book Tohfatul Quloob about Misaq:
“It does not behove a Dai to subscribe a single word of the Misaq towards himself.”
Sayedna Hatim has also reproduced the “Caution” which original writer of “Qualifications of A Dai-ul-Mutlaq”, Ahmed bin Mohammad Neshapuri has given in the footnote that:-
“If a Dai does not posses the qualities these qualifications in reality and is called Dai, then it is only without meaning. It will not benefit. It is useless to hope for any spiritual profit from such Dai. Such Dai is a sin and he is a sort of burden over the community. “
It is a fact that present Dai does not posses a single quality out of 94 qualities prescribed by Ahmed Neshapuri and Sayedna Hatim. Therefore it is necessary that this warning or caution should be read out loudly in each Drees.
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One important point I would like to bring into everybody`s notice is that the food which is serve in name of Darees is not lawful to consume as it comes in category of, "food in the name other than Allah -Gairu-LLAh ". Therefore, one should avoid eating food and attending Darees as it is for pleasing creation and not the Creator. it is a form of Shirk. May Allah swt guide all of us on straight path, aameen.
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Mumineen Bhayo and Behno Wadhare sey Wadhare Sonnaa in Ginnie Najwa maa Aapo
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there is a shortage of gold guineas in the market because of abdes. will a guinea pig do? i have a few, all well-trained and domesticated. all they need is some lettuce and carrots, but they can even survive on the barkati faize mawaid thaali daaba! they will definitely bring more good cheer and happiness to syedna than gold as they frolick around his sick bed in hospital.abde53 wrote:Mumineen Bhayo and Behno Wadhare sey Wadhare Sonnaa in Ginnie Najwa maa Aapo
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btw, their misaq has been taken so they are staunch abdesyednas..
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These are all a means of I.G.S. ( income generating schemes) devised by kothar inc. I would like to further inquire from insaf bhai that when did the commercialisation of darees started as far as my knowledge goes it started in 1975 or 1976 after the visit of present dai to yemen, you can correct me if i am wrong.
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The farman is from the office of Dai. Najawa means gift. How come Dai him self ask for gift and that too in GOLD!
They have left complete self respect to collect wealth.
They have left complete self respect to collect wealth.
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What a heinous and despicable bunch of hoodlums these people are.
Shamelessly asking for gold on the birthday of God on Earth. And now he's 102?
I thought he just barely turned 99?
Shamelessly asking for gold on the birthday of God on Earth. And now he's 102?
I thought he just barely turned 99?
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Dawoodi Bohras celebrate leader’s 102nd birthday
Burhanuddin celebrated his birthday in Mumbai
Staff Report
Published: 21:30 March 2, 2013
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Dubai: The Dawoodi Bohra Muslim Community in the UAE celebrated the 102nd birthday of their spiritual leader, Dr Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, on Saturday.
Dawoodi Bohras around the world likewise celebrated the joyous occasion, with others holding one-week celebrations and special ceremonies.
Thousands of Dawoodi Bohras travelled to Mumbai to greet and seek blessings from the revered leader on Saturday as he celebrated his birthday there. Many of them underwent a 40-day journey beginning from the birthday of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and culminating on the respected leader’s birthday.
Dawoodi Bohras have initiated development projects worldwide to help improve members’ way of life. Aside from an international tree planting campaign, medical camps were also set up to treat 250,000 Dawoodi Bohras worldwide. Low-cost housing schemes, trade fairs, business seminars, and mass marriages have also been done for the community.
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During Syedna’s visit in Dubai in November, he announced a gift of Dh21 million to the members of the community in the form of “Qardhan Hasanah” or interest-free loans.
Burhanuddin celebrated his birthday in Mumbai
Staff Report
Published: 21:30 March 2, 2013
Gulf News
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Dubai: The Dawoodi Bohra Muslim Community in the UAE celebrated the 102nd birthday of their spiritual leader, Dr Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, on Saturday.
Dawoodi Bohras around the world likewise celebrated the joyous occasion, with others holding one-week celebrations and special ceremonies.
Thousands of Dawoodi Bohras travelled to Mumbai to greet and seek blessings from the revered leader on Saturday as he celebrated his birthday there. Many of them underwent a 40-day journey beginning from the birthday of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and culminating on the respected leader’s birthday.
Dawoodi Bohras have initiated development projects worldwide to help improve members’ way of life. Aside from an international tree planting campaign, medical camps were also set up to treat 250,000 Dawoodi Bohras worldwide. Low-cost housing schemes, trade fairs, business seminars, and mass marriages have also been done for the community.
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During Syedna’s visit in Dubai in November, he announced a gift of Dh21 million to the members of the community in the form of “Qardhan Hasanah” or interest-free loans.
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Almost 90% of this amount has been given to rich businessmen in Dubai as seed capital although there are hundreds of bohras who slog in the desert heat just to make two ends meet.abde53 wrote:During Syedna’s visit in Dubai in November, he announced a gift of Dh21 million to the members of the community in the form of “Qardhan Hasanah” or interest-free loans.
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definition of darees: a social gathering of abdes, ostensibly in the name of paying homage to the great and pious syedna hatim of yemen, wherein qasida's and marsiyas are recited, culminating in purjosh maatam dedicated to the present syedna for his long life and health (thereby heaping insult on syedna hatim, in whose name the majlis is held), finally followed by labrez jaman and hefty salaams to the local hired goon of the kothar. these darees' are especially valuable in times of violent political turmoil when bohras are in mortal danger. eg, as in pakistan today, where the country is up in flames and shias are being systematically slaughtered.
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 10:12:10 -0500
Subject: 6th March English Birthday of Aqa Moula Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin TUS , message from Amil Saheb.
From: webmaster@atlantajamaat.org
To: info@atlantajamaat.org
Baad Afzal us Salaam,
We the Mumineen have been bestowed yet another occasion today as are celebrating 6th March English Birthday of our beloved Aqa Moula tus Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin TUS.
Mubarak Moula Mubarak.
In the 102 Milad Mubarak waaz delivered by Mufaddal Moula tus we heard the zikar of ansu (tear drops) that are either of happiness or sadness.
During the bayan mubarak, Aaliqadar Moula tus recalled how Moula tus health is and tears dropped down our eyes, how every moment Moula tus eyes open and shut we know its doa and doa for Mumineen.
Also he mentioned mumineen should not drink, smoke, be involved in interest, and the air hostess services, where mumineen especially behno should not take these services, where by serving alcohol they bring lannat of the alcohol upon themselves also where they cannot wear a rida and how they need to do so.
Today in Mumbai Janaab Bhaisaheb Taha bs Shehzada of Aaliqadar Moula Tus met with sansthas and mentioned that Aaliqadar Moula tus mentioned that we the mumineen have a responsibility in the health of Aqa Moula tus. "Mumineen na gunah nu khamyazu Moula tus uthawe che"
On one hand every good deed we do lifts a burden off Moula tus and every bad deed we do Increases it upon Moula tus, we mumineen have a responsibility upon ourselves to do more good deeds.
We all anxiously await the day Moula tus bestows us with tashreef awri to Atlanta for the iftetah of the Masjid we are bestowed with building. Why not jointly make this sacrifice of doa and good deeds and complete the masjid so that our dream of both Moula tus bestowing us here becomes a reality.
Khuda Taala Aqa Moula (TUS) ni umr sharif ne ta rozey Qiyamat daraaz karey, aapna saya ma aapna Mansoos Syedi wa Moulai Aaliqadr Mufaddal Moula (TUS) ni umrsharif ne Qiyamat na din lag daraaz karey.
Abde Syedna tus
Moez
Amil saheb Atlanta
Wasalaam,
Anjuman-e-Husami, Atlanta.
Subject: 6th March English Birthday of Aqa Moula Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin TUS , message from Amil Saheb.
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Baad Afzal us Salaam,
We the Mumineen have been bestowed yet another occasion today as are celebrating 6th March English Birthday of our beloved Aqa Moula tus Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin TUS.
Mubarak Moula Mubarak.
In the 102 Milad Mubarak waaz delivered by Mufaddal Moula tus we heard the zikar of ansu (tear drops) that are either of happiness or sadness.
During the bayan mubarak, Aaliqadar Moula tus recalled how Moula tus health is and tears dropped down our eyes, how every moment Moula tus eyes open and shut we know its doa and doa for Mumineen.
Also he mentioned mumineen should not drink, smoke, be involved in interest, and the air hostess services, where mumineen especially behno should not take these services, where by serving alcohol they bring lannat of the alcohol upon themselves also where they cannot wear a rida and how they need to do so.
Today in Mumbai Janaab Bhaisaheb Taha bs Shehzada of Aaliqadar Moula Tus met with sansthas and mentioned that Aaliqadar Moula tus mentioned that we the mumineen have a responsibility in the health of Aqa Moula tus. "Mumineen na gunah nu khamyazu Moula tus uthawe che"
On one hand every good deed we do lifts a burden off Moula tus and every bad deed we do Increases it upon Moula tus, we mumineen have a responsibility upon ourselves to do more good deeds.
We all anxiously await the day Moula tus bestows us with tashreef awri to Atlanta for the iftetah of the Masjid we are bestowed with building. Why not jointly make this sacrifice of doa and good deeds and complete the masjid so that our dream of both Moula tus bestowing us here becomes a reality.
Khuda Taala Aqa Moula (TUS) ni umr sharif ne ta rozey Qiyamat daraaz karey, aapna saya ma aapna Mansoos Syedi wa Moulai Aaliqadr Mufaddal Moula (TUS) ni umrsharif ne Qiyamat na din lag daraaz karey.
Abde Syedna tus
Moez
Amil saheb Atlanta
Wasalaam,
Anjuman-e-Husami, Atlanta.
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Re: darees and misaak.
in that case the people most responsible for mola's ill health are his own gunehgaar ayyash family!!!abde53 wrote:Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 10:12:10 -0500
Subject: 6th March English Birthday of Aqa Moula Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin TUS , message from Amil Saheb.
From: webmaster@atlantajamaat.org
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"Mumineen na gunah nu khamyazu Moula tus uthawe che"
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Re: darees and misaak.
This is exactly what the christians say with regard to the crucification of christ !abde53 wrote:"Mumineen na gunah nu khamyazu Moula tus uthawe che"
If this is the case then why didnt he tell it to the dawoodi bohra girl of qatar airways instead of trying to get cozy with her and admire her beauty.abde53 wrote:the air hostess services, where mumineen especially behno should not take these services, where by serving alcohol they bring lannat of the alcohol upon themselves also where they cannot wear a rida and how they need to do so.
100 Chuhe maar kar billi haj ko chali.....What about the bar in Ambassador Hotel which was owned jointly by his sasra YN and the late Mukasir Salehbhai saab, what about the liqour shops in Glamour bldg, Colaba which is owned by kothar....... Probably having a daru ki dukan as tenant and taking rent is permitted as per the newly invented mufaddali/taheri/burhanudin bohra beliefs. Also taking Ziafats from people like Shaukat Sarkar who too had a bar in his hotel is also permitted. No wonder they say HAMEIN JE KAHIYE E KARO, HAMEIN JE KARIYE E NA KARO !!abde53 wrote:he mentioned mumineen should not drink, smoke, be involved in interest,