Usman ko Umar ke paas kyon nahi dafanaya?

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badrijanab
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Usman ko Umar ke paas kyon nahi dafanaya?

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Unread post by badrijanab » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:40 am

To: non-Mumineens

Please enlighten why Usman was not buried next to Umar?

Where is Aysha buried? Please provide proof? Or no one knows where is she buried???

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Usman ko Umar ke paas kyon nahi dafanaya?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:57 pm

badrijanab wrote:To: non-Mumineens
According to you, I, anajmi, MF, AZ etc may be 'non mumeen' as we do not subscribe to the fairytales of your so called 'Pristine' faith but in the same breadth, according to us, you are a 'non mumeen' so lets leave that for Allah (swt) to decide. In the meanwhile kindly rephrase your sentence to read as "Non Bohras" instead of "Non Mumeen".

Sikander
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Re: Usman ko Umar ke paas kyon nahi dafanaya?

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Unread post by Sikander » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:46 pm

badrijanab wrote:To: non-Mumineens

Please enlighten why Usman was not buried next to Umar?

Where is Aysha buried? Please provide proof? Or no one knows where is she buried???
who you are to decide who is momeen and who is not?

what a shame, thousands of books which u have read has gone to drain......you got no knowledge out of any of those books.

anajmi
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Unread post by anajmi » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:30 pm

I wouldn't give much thought to who badrijanab considers a mumineen or not. As he probably got his definition of mumineen from Oxford and Webster. :wink:

badrijanab
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Unread post by badrijanab » Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:38 pm

Please enlighten why Usman was not buried next to Umar?

Where is Aysha buried? Please provide proof? Or no one knows where is she buried?

anajmi
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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:16 pm

Can you tell me why sikander was not buried next to porus?

ghulam muhammed
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:15 pm

badrijanab wrote:Where is Aysha buried? Please provide proof?
Where is Imam Tayyab buried ? Please provide proof unless he is still alive for all these 900 plus years !!

Al Zulfiqar
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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:50 pm

badrijanab wrote: Please enlighten why Usman was not buried next to Umar?

Where is Aysha buried? Please provide proof? Or no one knows where is she buried???
members would obviously like to know why you need such information. gathering proof is a time consuming and painstaking job. if you could please let us know how much you are paying to obtain said proof, members might get motivated.

normally for research projects such as these, the standard industry going rate is $150 per hour, (the same as a junior lawyer) + expenses based on actuals. it is estimated that obtaining the necessary info could take anything upto 500 hours or more + involve extensive travel in the gulf and middle-east + hotel, food and documentation fees etc.

we have not felt the tearing need so far to find out where ayesha is buried. maybe her descendants are your clients and have retained your services? please provide proof of the same.

Muslim First
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Unread post by Muslim First » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:08 am

Depending which sect you talk, you will get 2 version.
Shia and Sunni
Shia - Usman was buried in Jewish Toiler ground
Sunni - Hz Usman RA was buried in Garden he owned
Shia- curse Usman because he usurped Khilafat from Bhagwan Ali SA and he was currupt.
Sunni- prophet gave him his 2 daughters in marriage. He supported Prophet's mission .

Now Sunni do not give sheet about politics. For them religion was complete after Prophets last Hujj.
What happen after that is not very important. Please do not forget Hz Usman was one of few person given Basharat of paradise Br the Prophet. Sunni do not dwell in politics after Prophet. Nobody saved Islam. It is Allah who promised to save Islam and it is true today.

People like BJ are evil who creat Fitna.

rang
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Re: Usman ko Umar ke paas kyon nahi dafanaya?

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Unread post by rang » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:43 am

badrijanab wrote:To: non-Mumineens

Please enlighten why Usman was not buried next to Umar?

Where is Aysha buried? Please provide proof? Or no one knows where is she buried???
Dear Badri janab. Kindly give the answer in detail. I would like to know WHY and WHERE. Rgds

Muslim First
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Unread post by Muslim First » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:09 am

BJ

You will benifit by reading this
HOW TO APPROACH THE SHIA BROTHERS/SISTERS – A STRAIGHT FORWARD LOGIC INSTEAD OF A NEVER ENDING DEBATE

These days any one who is interested in discussion on Islamic subjects will come across a lot of discussion boards where there are a long and often-pointless debates going on between Shia Muslims and Mainstream Muslims (I prefer to use the term “Main Stream” rather than Sunnis which gives an impression of sectarianism).

The features of these kinds of debates are as follow:

They seem to be endless
In some point one of the sides starts using offensive language and usually this is the reason for ending the debate
They are repeated material that are posted every now and then in many websites

Before explaining what is an appropriate way to discuss with Shia I need to make an important point and then refer to some facts. I do apologize for the lengthy article but I think it might be interesting for my brothers/sisters.

Read more at
http://islamistruth.forumotion.com/t23- ... rs-sisters

Wasalaam

SBM
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Unread post by SBM » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:12 pm

why Usman was not buried next to Umar?
Toa Mein Kiya Karoon

badrijanab
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Unread post by badrijanab » Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:27 pm

SBM wrote:
why Usman was not buried next to Umar?
Toa Mein Kiya Karoon
Seekh le, aur apne 'Imaan' ko sudhaar.

ghulam muhammed
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:17 pm

badrijanab wrote:SBM wrote:
why Usman was not buried next to Umar?
Toa Mein Kiya Karoon


Seekh le, aur apne 'Imaan' ko sudhaar.
"Be-Imaan" logo ko Imaan ki baat karna shobha nahi deta !