The chameleon changes colors frequently. Not sure how many of the forum members were able to read his posts that were deleted by the Admin, but what was he saying in those posts? Wasn't it bile indicating homosexuality as a disgrace? Wasn't he talking about prison's and anuses and analing people? Haven't I exposed this disgusting pig enough already?Incidentally, outside of our beautiful Fatimid tradition,
Dear Sunni Scholar/Prophet,anajmi wrote:Actually, sometimes in an informal environment, a scholar is just a person who makes most sense. And you obviously do not belong to that category.
porus ran because he got beat. Simple.
There are two kinds of people who give opinions. Those who base their opinions upon work done by scholars and others who base their opinion upon women lingerie and male orifices. We know which category you belong to, now don't we?
When I give my opinion, it is based upon the Quran and the Sunnah of the prophet (saw). So I've never had to eat my words. Not so with you who has had to eat his words more than the free DB dabba lol!!!
No Ana, in my post, I actually said Sunnis are good and decent people, who follow the true path of Islam, and make the world a better place.anajmi wrote:The chameleon changes colors frequently. Not sure how many of the forum members were able to read his posts that were deleted by the Admin, but what was he saying in those posts? Wasn't it bile indicating homosexuality as a disgrace? Wasn't he talking about prison's and anuses and analing people? Haven't I exposed this disgusting pig enough already?Incidentally, outside of our beautiful Fatimid tradition,
SBM wrote:No Please do not cop out. You accused me of Jury-Judge and Executioner and I want you to post that comment where I have been Jury-Judge and Executioner. Passing the judgment on Kothari Goons and their activities is one thing but I have never every ( in my memory) ever wished anyone ill will or taken the place of Almighty Allaha for punishment BTW I donot even know if JC is reformist or Abde. From his postings it seems that he still belongs to Abde Clan and may be just a fence sitter like a great majority of Abdes are. You are the one who assumed that he is Reformist just you assumed lot of things like Anajmi is Wahabbi without knowing his background. He has posted many times that his family is still in Abde fold and he does have a healthy relationship with his extended family. You also assumed that Anajmi is also the Admin or Moderator of this forum without even doing any back ground that shows a really shallowness of your thinking power and who can blame you after defending Kothari Goons and people like DBL who is playing on both side of spectrum what can be expected of you. May Allah give you Taufiq to be independent thinker and guide you to the correct path whatever that may be.there are numerous posts sbm bhai where, just cause it suits your agenda of bohra bashing, you have passed judgement. i would not wish to dig them out because both you and i have better things to do
PLEASE I REQUEST OF YOU TO FIND SUCH A POSTING FROM ME WHERE I HAVE BEEN JURY-JUDGE AND EXECUTIONER SPECIALLY THE LAST ONE. otherwise you would have to eat crows (as a matter of speech)
Hi BS, if you meant that i tried to hijack this discussion then you are wrong. i did not. and if i did, then it was completely inadvertant and i profusely apologise for it. also, i dont think i wanted to detect your judgement at all, i laud you for starting this topic and i wanted to be a part of it, again, i apologise if it seemed otherwise, it was not meant to be. maybe there is some misunderstanding. See, this is why you need to stick aroundBohra spring wrote:Ok someone decided to hijack this discussion, z you have a poor judgement of detecting my. Intent . Back to the point...are we ready to accept confessing homosexuals as equal humans within Bohra community?
Or are we going to force them to hide their preferences and live in fear of discrimination
Which jamaat will make the move first ?
This will be so challenging concept that requires a true reform of ideology. As mentioned before if it is proven which is not far by science the the sexuality is a natural instinct which means it is Gods or nurtures creation then we have to treat it with objective ness and as Islam says we should live as United and allows diversity. Hence they as naturally leaning homosexuals should be able to participate fully in community.
However if one decides to force a change due to personal desires then islam already states the consequences as it does for alcoholics or druggists .
Close, but let me amend your comment to make it 100% accurate :-Safiuddin wrote:Personally speaking, I have no problems with gays and lesbians at all - it's none of my business so live and let live! I also think homosexuals getting married is a good thing for them and for society as a whole. However I do have a problem with the Western concept of being so public about homosexuality. Personal things of this nature should be kept private.
Mr Londoner: Here is what you REALLY said above:
"I don't mind gay people at all, I just wish they wouldn't act gay in public.
I wish they would keep these personalthings private, behind closed doors, where I wouldn't have to see it and realize that i really just hate gay people.
I want gay people to be "my friend", but, GOSH, can't they keep that crap inside their homes?"
Well don't keep it a secret bro, what is my "true agenda" - to torture and murder every gay person in the world, like the Wahhabi's want lolBetter off you keep quiet, lest the world finds out your true agenda.
True, minorities of every kind, always suffer the oppression of others - just look at how the Sunnis treat Shias all over the world today. They even come on Shia websites to trample on our beliefs, then cry like women when we trample on theirs lol!JC wrote:Someone wrote tomorrow gays may ask for equal rights in an Islamic society like they have in West, well, yes that could very well be the case, why not? We believe we have suffered lot and time has come to address this.
Hi BS, i hate JC for the things that he writes against us, but yes, i still accept him for his sexuality. there have been times when i was tempted to bring it up and mock him and God knows that i have had to control myself, simply because that would be hitting below the belt.Bohra spring wrote:JC I salute you and bloody well done to demand your rights...now let's see how many stand in support behind your plea ? Count me in, we may never meet face to face but I will always stand by for equal rights whenever I find someone in your situation. 12 hrs to new year!
Bohra spring wrote:Zinger ...31 dec few hours to my demise.
Yes you make valid points ...how radical and rock the boat we can get before we tip it over. But as a society a attractive alternative reform movement that differentiates orthodoxy we need to always explore our limits and boundaries to remain relevant in ever changing reality of modern community.
Crime Patrol is a programme based on TRUE cases and the one you are referring to was also based on a true case of a Bohra, Mr.Bharmal who had murdered his aged parents in cold blood at Marol. BTW This guy was from St.Mary's School, Mazgaon and once lived in Adamji Peerbhoy Bldg at Behndi Bazaar !! Hence, it was not targeted at a particular community but reported as per police records.zinger wrote:an episode on crime patrol on SONY where the characters are dressed in Rida and Topi Kurta
Smart wrote:One interesting observation while reading the posts of Abdes discussing about what we should do as a community in matters of homosexuality.
One question I would like to ask the abdes:
Does your opinion even matter?
Let alone such big issues, even in small issues like the length of their beard you don't have any say. To pretend to discuss your opinions as if they matter is a little rich isn't it?
Really???ghulam muhammed wrote:Crime Patrol is a programme based on TRUE cases and the one you are referring to was also based on a true case of a Bohra, Mr.Bharmal who had murdered his aged parents in cold blood at Marol. BTW This guy was from St.Mary's School, Mazgaon and once lived in Adamji Peerbhoy Bldg at Behndi Bazaar !! Hence, it was not targeted at a particular community but reported as per police records.zinger wrote:an episode on crime patrol on SONY where the characters are dressed in Rida and Topi Kurta
Yes, it was reported in many newspapers. I think it is around a year old case. I will try to get the link and post it for your perusal.zinger wrote:Was it reported in the papers? How old is this case?
You say I dislike homosexuality being too public... I say I dislike ALL sexuality being too public - personally, I think I know better about what my opinion is than you, and I never have nor ever will, hold prejudice or discriminate against anyone due to their sexuality... but please don't let that stop you correcting me lol.Safiuddin wrote:@ Bohra Spring: No anger here. Just questions for you. Another person's sexuality is irrelevant.
@Db Londoner: I fully expected you to restate your prejudice and act as if you had made an inclusive statement - which you hadn't in the first place.
I further expected that you would try and turn the subject to the question of my sexuality, which is, like any one else's, completely irrelevant, and even more so here- the post is about homosexuality and child abuse. So what you first posted is even more telling now. Just because your god or your religion forbids you something, doesn't obligate the rest of humanity to follow what you want - just because it's against YOUR Islamic beliefs and teachings.
That's called discrimination - and people like you use the crutch of religion to try and justify hatred and bigotry.
So now you use an alternative method of spewing venom against people to settle your personal score after Admin spanked you !! Grow up man and stop spreading lies although one cant expect anything better from a person like you. Stop worrying about me and start worrying for your own self because I and many members on this forum very well know what I stand for. I have written only one post on this thread and I advice you to first read it and then comment before people change your ID from DB-Londoner to DB-Liar.DB-Londoner wrote:it's only the Sunnis like GM who are against equal rights for everyone.
Hardly anybody reads your copy/paste jobs GM - especially when you don't give the source!ghulam muhammed wrote:So now you use an alternative method of spewing venom against people to settle your personal score after Admin spanked you !! Grow up man and stop spreading lies although one cant expect anything better from a person like you. Stop worrying about me and start worrying for your own self because I and many members on this forum very well know what I stand for. I have written only one post on this thread and I advice you to first read it and then comment before people change your ID from DB-Londoner to DB-Liar.DB-Londoner wrote:it's only the Sunnis like GM who are against equal rights for everyone.