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anajmi,anajmi wrote:It is mind boggling that even after so much baraat, the progressives are still entertaining the idea of joining the mainstream jamaat even if their demands are met, which will never happen. The biggest punch in the face for the kotharis is for the progressives to join the Sunni Jamaat. They will be invited with open arms and you will be able to be part of a big and powerful community again. You will have the backing of the Sunni Jamaat and with such a force behind you, the Syedna and his goons will no longer be able to torture you like they normally do. They won't be able to throw you out of mosques, nor confine you to the back like untouchables.
Then we have another post from him again - second warning perhaps?anajmi wrote:Well, anyone who believes in Shia Islam, does not believe in Islam.
As well as issuing warnings and bans, will you be deleting posts like this too? We need to attract DBs here and having garbage like this all over the place just keeps them away...anajmi wrote:If you say that you are not a sunni, then I am not the one saying that you are an unbeliever. You are saying it yourself.
Very True. Most of the bohras know all this is wrong but they cannot move out of this social system. And the Dai and his regime very well understand this and so time to time they come out with farmans which play with people's mind and keep them entrenched in the system, the latest and greatest being thaali system.But they are too socially entrenched in the system to do anything about it. You must know that from the experience of your own extended family.
We would all agree that the Kothar has turned our beautiful religion in to a business,,, where they manipulate us and our faith, in order to rob us of our money - the more money we have, the more they can steal from us, right bro?think wrote:not so. depends on who rules the house? If you are the man of the house then you can step your foot down. In my case women folks wanted to send chidren to madrassa and go to all majlis etc and neglect school homework. I had to draw the line and today my children are very well educated and are doctors and engineers and still practise their religion in a moderate way , no knee kissing for every tom dick and harry mulla or amil or bhaisaheb as some of the other children i have seen do.They have been brainwashed into slavery by going to the madrassa for deeni education..to day to feed themselves they cannot even hold a job because they lack world education.what good did it do them to learn allahomma asinfarji and ghanoo jivo ghanoo jivo.
Yes, women are the back-bone of any family and community - which is why the Kothar target them so successfully.humble_servant_us wrote:I agree the role of women was very pivotal in the reform movement in udaipur. Kothar had learnt a strong lesson from the galiyakot episode and in future they will dare to repeat this. They have cleverly strategised their focus on enslaving the women of the community and to a large extent they are successful in this.
It is important that at individual level we have to work with our family and extended family women creating awareness in them so that they can be liberated from this despotic system. This is indeed a Big task for many of us.
I'll ask again bro... what is your neck of the woods? What Jammat are you talking about? Are you a Reformist just hearing rumours, or are you a member who is seeing this first hand?think wrote:In my neck of the woods in the west, this is the situation of the young ones. Their mothers gave first preference to madrassa and second to school. They are now mediocre at that. Their only social life is attending every majlis there is and one knows that, to brainwash abdes these majlises are held every second day. Ofcourse free food is another attraction for them . They are smart and intelligent but that has now turned into cunningness. Logical argument is way beyond.
Have you now... well done playa lol!Mkenya wrote:Personally I have witnessed women from many parts of the world
Absolutely! However why not start a whole new thread bro, to prevent derailing this one!Let us please continue and explore!
I can't see this bro... can you put it on YouTube please?Maqbool wrote:
This is a request to Mr Deerseye, please refrain from making a molehill in to a mountain lol - no apology is necessary as no insult was intended.Deerseye wrote:This is a request to Mr DB Londoner, please refrain from lewd comments, it shows your bad culture, it would be good to say sorry to bro MKENYA who is very senior to you.thankyou.