MBA Graduate In Mumbai Denied Job For Being Muslim

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MBA Graduate In Mumbai Denied Job For Being Muslim

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu May 21, 2015 6:40 pm

Cops file case after Mumbai firm tells job-seeker 'we hire only non-Muslims'

MUMBAI: A Mumbai-based diamond jewellery export firm faces action for religious discrimination after it declined to entertain the job application of a youth on the grounds that he was a Muslim.

The job-seeker, Zeshan Ali Khan, a business management graduate from Mumbai, had applied for a position in Hari Krishna Exports Pvt Ltd, a leading exporter of diamond jewellery, as marketing executive but was shocked when he received the response from the firm stating that it hires only "non-Muslim candidates."

Mumbai Police have lodged a case against the firm on the youth's complaint.

"As per the law, there is punishment of 3 years. After investigation it will be revealed who is actually related to offence," police inspector Suryakant Jagdale said.

After the rejection letter sparked a controversy, the firm said it was an error on the part of one of its staff and it never practised religious discrimination.

"I just completed my final semester exams of MBA last week and like other classmates have been looking for a job. I came across an update regarding a recruitment drive undertaken by leading diamond and jewellery exporter and thought it would be a great start for my career," Khan said.

"I along with my two classmates applied for the job. I forwarded them my resume on 19th May, 2015 at 5.45pm and exactly 15 minutes later I got a reply from the HR in charge of the firm that my application has been rejected because the company only hires non-Muslims," Khan added.

"At a time when Prime Minister Narendra Modi is visiting foreign countries and inviting them for investment and pushing ahead the 'Make in India' campaign, the leading export houses are rejecting candidates for their religion," he said.

In its reply to Khan, the company said, "We regret to inform you that we hire only non-Muslim candidates."

Khan later narrated his experience on a social networking site, following which he received a 'regret' mail from the company after his post generated sharp reactions.

"As a company, we would like to reiterate that there is an error done by one of the newly joined HR trainees. Company functions without being biased with any caste, religion and gender," a company representative said in a posting on Facebook.

"It was a blunder and personal mess created by one of our trainees who has no decision making power. We have 61 employees in our office here including one Muslim in the HR team," Hari Krishna Exports Private Ltd said in the mail.

Taking note of the incident, activist Shehzad Poonawalla wrote to the National Commission for Minorities urging it to look into the issue.

In response, Naseem Ahmed, Chairman of the NMC said, "We have received the petition. If there is any truth in this, it is unfortunate. An inquiry shall be conducted," he said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 370696.cms

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu May 21, 2015 6:42 pm

This is a marked change from the time Modi came to power. The anti-Muslim prejudice is being expressed more brazenly and openly now.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun May 24, 2015 5:14 pm

No job for Muslim MBA? Not a surprise in Modi's India

There is shock, horror and outrage in liberal circles over a news report that a Mumbai-based company turned down a Muslim youth for a job because of his religion.

The National Commission for Minorities has ordered an investigation, the Maharashtra Government has promised its own inquiry, and the National Human Rights Commission is being urged to look into the issue. The social media meanwhile, is seething with anger.

"Appalling!" fumed someone on Facebook.

"What has India come to? Another Pakistan?" asked another.

"The company must be reported to the human rights commission," suggested a third.

And a fourth lamented: "They have taken away my pride as a citizen of this country".

Ironically, the only people who are not shocked are Muslims. For they say they had seen such a thing coming. According to historian Saleem Kidwai it is “a logical culmination of the anti-minorities tirade launched during the past one year” .

“The environment in the country has become so poisonous that such things are bound to happen,”
he said.

I’m not always on the same page with Kidwai. Far too often he reacts too emotionally to Muslim-related issues. But on this one, he is dead right.

There was a certain inevitability about what happened to Zeeshan Ali Khan, the youth from the “wrong’’ religion. As Kidwai points out something like this was simply waiting to happen thanks to the Sangh Parivar's persistent hate campaign in recent months.

But the campaign alone is not to blame. For, it has been going on for years. What has given it a sudden momentum and legitimacy is the Prime Minister’s curious silence and reluctance to rein in the xenophobes behind the "anti-minorities tirade".


That someone would take this as a cue for a free pass, and do what the Hari Krishna Exports Private Limited did was inevitable.

It saw nothing wrong in saying “no’’ to a Muslim candidate because of his religion. No pussy-footing around the issue, no hedging its bets about the reason why it didn’t want Zeeshan. They just didn't hire Muslims. It was as simple as that. Hang constitutional niceties. And boo to NHRC and the National Commission for Minorities. Who cares for those busybodies? Our Parivar, our prime minister is with us. Isn’t that enough?

But, come to think of it, is it really so shocking?

After all, covert discrimination against Muslims in jobs and housing is so commonplace that it is now widely accepted as a fact of life. And here I speak from personal experience. I was lucky on the job front. But I lost count of the number of times I was refused a house because of my religion—and often by some very friendly Hindu landlords, who insisted they had nothing against my being a Muslim. But they didn’t want meat-eaters as tenants.

There is a well-known study by a left-wing researcher who sent identical CVs to several companies, but under different assumed names--some Hindu and some Muslim. And he found that most of the applications which were turned down were the ones which had been sent under Muslim names.

So, discrimination is nothing new.

What has changed, and which many find shocking, in the present case is that the company’s action was so in-your-face. The covert has become overt, and people no longer feel any shame in publicly stating that they don’t hire Muslims.

Following the uproar, Hari Krishna Exports blamed the “mess’’ on a trainee in the HR team.

"It was a blunder and personal mess created by one of our trainees who has no decision making power. We have 61 employees in our office here including one Muslim in the HR team," it said.

Really?

A 'trainee’ with powers to hire and fire must be a very powerful trainee indeed. And if such a specie really exists, then the company needs a closer look at its HR structure. But what I found really revealing was its claims that, "we have 61 employees in our office here including one Muslim in the HR team".

One Muslim employee out of 61! That says a lot about its recruitment policy. In a more inclusive society, companies are obliged to make sure that their staff composition reflects the cultural mix of the society in which they operate.

But this is India. Modi’s India.

As I write this, a bakery in Northern Ireland has been ordered to pay $135,000 (£89,000) in damages to a lesbian couple for refusing to make them a same-sex wedding cake.

That’s another extreme. But any day, give me this extreme than the Hari Krishna Exports variety.

Meanwhile, according to a link circulating on FB a company called Induslink Services has advertised for several position “only for male (Muslim) candidates’’. This includes an “Urgent opening For Accounts Executive ... We are looking only for male (Muslim) candidates”.

A snap shot of modern India?


http://www.firstpost.com/india/no-job-f ... 57594.html

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon May 25, 2015 5:01 pm

285 candidates given direct placement in AMP job fair at Andheri

Mumbai: Around 285 candidates were given on-the-spot offers by recruiters while approximately 317 were shortlisted for further evaluation in the full-day job fair at Andheri on Saturday. The event was organized by Association of Muslim Professionals (AMP) in association with Khidmat Organization.

Syed Najeeb, General Secretary of AMP who was personally present for this event said “The response for this event has been quite overwhelming just as it has been during the earlier Job Fairs.. It is with immense pleasure we say that true to our call of being the catalyst of change for the better, we could extend our humble services to these job aspirants. It was all possible because of the selfless and meticulous teamwork of members from AMP and Khidmat Organization.”

Around 1100 job aspirants from across Mumbai attended event. The recruiters when contacted also conveyed that they were indeed very pleased with the way the event has been organized and conducted and the quality of the candidates whom they interacted with. This Job Fair gave a chance to the candidates to demonstrate their eligibility for vacancies in Sales, Marketing, Back office, Admin and other departments of prestigious firms and get access to different openings at one single location.

Mohsin Haider, Corporator from Andheri (West) said, “I am very pleased with the way this Job Fair has been conducted and the way we have welcomed candidates form all caste and religion. This is a fitting reply to the non-secular forces with narrow mindsets who are bent on disturbing the secular fabric of this great country. I would like to personally thank AMP for being a shining example of service to the community and the nation.”

http://www.journospy.com/Events.aspx?id=12

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri May 29, 2015 4:31 pm

No flat for her in Mumbai because she is Muslim

Growing up in Gujarat post-2002 riots exposed her to religious prejudice and forced ghettoisation.

Growing up in Gujarat post-2002 riots exposed her to religious prejudice and forced ghettoisation. So when Misbah Quadri moved to Mumbai, she hoped the city, known for its cosmopolitan culture, would treat her better.

However, the 25-year-old communications professional is today knocking on the doors of the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) after she was denied a flat in the city just because she is a Muslim. After a hard search, Ms. Quadri found a tidy 3-BHK apartment at Sanghvi Heights in Wadala. Her new flatmates — two working women, in their early twenties and Hindu — found her on Facebook.

However, a day before Ms. Quadri was to shift, the apartment’s broker warned that the housing society did not accept Muslim tenants. Even if something worked out, the broker told her, she would have to sign a “no-objection certificate” declaring that if she faced any harassment from her neighbours because of her religion, the builder, the owner and the broker “would not be legally responsible.” She was also asked to submit her resume. Though she disagreed with the terms, she moved in because the notice period at her previous flat expired and her flatmates supported her and she hoped for a compromise later.

But within a week, the agent contacted her again. “He threatened to call the cops and throw me out of the flat. It got very ugly.” When she approached the representative of the builder, she was told that it was “a policy” of the company not to have Muslim tenants. She was then served an ultimatum to vacate the house. Ultimately, she was forced to leave the flat. Incidentally, the other women had to pay a price for sheltering a Muslim; they have vacated the house unwillingly.

Ms. Quadri’s case is not an exception. Last November, the Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation (BMC) passed a resolution seeking to deny key clearances to builders and housing societies that discriminate against buyers on the basis of caste, religion or food habits. However, it still awaits sanction by the Urban Development Ministry, says MNS corporator Sandeep Deshpande, who submitted the proposal.

“There is still no reply on it. Only after the UD implements the proposal can the BMC punish the offending builders and housing societies. The other alternative is to lodge an FIR,” Mr. Deshpande said.

Social activist Meena Seshu, who is assisting the women reach the NHRC, raised concern that “unacceptable” cases of discrimination on religion and caste were increasing.

Shailesh Sanghvi, director of Sanghvi Group of builders, did not respond to The Hindu’s calls or messages
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http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/n ... epage=true

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri May 29, 2015 5:57 pm

Muslim and the City: Flats Rented to Us Become Off-Limits Overnight

I saw some outrage yesterday on social media and news channels about a young woman in Mumbai asked to vacate her flat because of her surname. Misbah Quadri, who had moved into a three-bedroom apartment in Wadala, was allegedly told by her broker that she could not move in the flat as the society was averse Muslim tenants.

The girl was interviewed by various news channels, and we pretended that we woke up to a phenomenon . Really ? How many of us have Muslim friends who haven't shared stories of not being able to get an apartment because of their surname in "cosmopolitan" metros like Delhi and Mumbai?

I remember arriving at a Greater Kailash apartment in South Delhi with my bag and baggage all the way from Mumbai to find the door locked. I had met the family who owned the flat a week before that - the son, a doctor who was in Delhi for vacation from London, the father a businessman from Haryana. When I landed at the gate, the watchman said he had no instructions to allow me in. I had a contract; a deposit had been paid to the owner, and brokerage to the concerned broker. I called the broker half a dozen times and he pleaded ignorance. He reached the house half an hour later to return the deposit and the brokerage commission.

"Madam, kuch Nizamuddin mein dikhaoon, aapke type area mein," he said, pointing me in the direction of a neighbourhood popular with Muslims in Delhi." I don't think I have ever felt so humiliated. Others have shared this crisis. A photo journalist from the city had to stay in a sort of hostel in Daryaganj in Old Delhi for two months because the owners who promised to rent him their flat were concerned about terror links - after all, he was both a Muslim and a Kashmiri.

The incident of Misbah Quadri has shocked us because it took place in Mumbai, a cosmopolitan city. Apologies, but I am hugely surprised at the outrage. Remember, this is a city where brokers tell you that certain pockets of Nariman Point are only meant for occupancy by Jains, and an owner of a popular penthouse in Walkeshwar has said he wants no Muslim to enter his house for fear of Goddess Lakshmi walking out in protest.

For a moment, let's forget the upmarket, elite, educated South Mumbai circle. My family stays in Navi Mumbai; my younger brother will be moving into a three-bedroom apartment close to where my parents stay in Vashi. For the last eight months, the builder and his broker have been trying to convince him to sell the flat, with the owner of the apartment building personally willing to placate him with a wholly unexpected profit margin. The reason - out of about 60 flats in the fifteen-storey building, the rest belong to non-Muslims and they "would not want any display of flesh during Bakri Eid" in the words of the builder.

In the last six months, my brother has had the humiliating experience of being called to the society's office and being asking to vacate, though the requests are now less aggressive with my brother threatening to file a police case should there be any attempt at intimidation.

His friends tell him he is lucky to have managed an apartment in a posh locality in Navi Mumbai because mostly, Mussalmans stay only in 'their' areas, which would mean pockets in dirty localities owned by fellow Muslims. Yes, this is the same city which is forever in homage to the Khans, the troika of Aamir, Salman and Shah Rukh. But unfortunately, that's the extent of cosmopolitan Mumbai on far too many occasions. Remember a less popular Emraan Hashmi complaining of being refused an apartment by virtue of his faith.

I feel nauseous when I am told these are exceptions to the norm for this is the city of Manto from where he gave us his best work. Manto wrote about the colourful brothels in the city while staying in the famous Arab Gully in Byculla (a Muslim-dominated suburb). He wrote from Lahore "I am a walking, talking Bombay. Wherever I happen to be, that is where I will make a world of my own". But the same Manto who wrote his seminal work in then Bombay had to be saved by actor Ashok Kumar with whom he was riding in a car during post-partition riots in the city.

Yes, this was a city of the liberals, a city where Muslim actors like Dilip Kumar, Madhubala, Meena Kumari, Mehmood, Johny Walker were revered with realms written about their iconic status. Who made Bandra and Andheri posh suburbs to live in.

The same suburbs where you can easily identify the pockets inhabited by Catholics and Muslims. And for those who are disappointed, my earlier defense of this city's cosmopolitan character was shredded naked during the Mumbai riots, when the two main communities sought blood. Urban, classy Mumbai ends somewhere near Byculla, and the less-educated perceived-as-crass Mumbai is represented by pockets like Nagpada and Mohammed Ali Road, where liberal and fashionable Mumbaikars make a trip during Ramzan to eat that lavish spread awaiting them . That is when every non-Muslim in the city flaunts that Muslim friend who will provide a tour of the Ramzaan iftaar spread of firni and bheja fry and dal ghee at Mohammed Ali road . The same locality where my friend from Peddar Road has been asked not to venture into unless it's very urgent and she is accompanied by a driver.

This is a city where most non-Muslims would get goosebumps while watching Naseeruddin Shah perform at Prithvi Theatre and lose no time in outraging over his 'friendship with Pakistan' remark.

The unfortunate news for my friends who appear naive about this ugly face of the glamorous Mumbai is that much as we may pretend otherwise, Mumbai is as guilty as far less modern parts of the country when it comes to the 'us' and 'them' demarcation. We have as a city accepted it, though we rarely acknowledge it. I did too, when, after the Mumbai riots, my family moved from the 'cosmopolitan' Sahar Colony in Andheri East to Deonar, another Muslim suburb. This was not very long ago.

There are a thousand Misbah Qadri cases that take place in this metropolitan city, only many like me, do not have the time , energy and zeal to fight it. And for this, we are all complicit.

(Rana Ayyub is an award-winning investigative journalist and political writer. She is working on a book on Prime Minister Narendra Modi, which will be published later this year.)

http://www.ndtv.com/opinion/muslim-in-the-city-766613

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun May 31, 2015 8:24 am

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... =TOI_AShow

AHMEDABAD: All's well that ends well. Zeeshan Khan, who made national headlines after he was denied a job by a Mumbai-based diamond firm because of being a Muslim, has decided to join the Ahmedabad-based Adani group.

"I received about a dozen offers following the religious discrimination I had to face. My mail box is flooded with solidarity messages," says Khan, 22, who was in Ahmedabad to complete formalities at Adani's corporate office. "Among all the offers I got, this was the best," says Khan, who will join the group's Mumbai office as an executive trainee. When asked why he chose to join Adani, he said it was one of the biggest integrated infrastructure companies in the country.

"We encourage talent irrespective of caste, creed and religion. We found Zeeshan a competent candidate and hence a job was offered," said an Adani spokesperson.

In the third week of May, Khan had sent a email application to Hari Krishna Exports Pvt Ltd for a marketing job. Within 15 minutes, he received the reply: "We regret to inform you that we hire only non-Muslim candidates." Khan and his friends put out a screenshot of the mail on social media and it went viral.


Khan, who did his MBA in Mumbai, approached the Mumbai police and a case was registered against the company under section 153B of the IPC, which deals with national integration and provides for a jail term of up to three years for the guilty.

Earlier this week, Khan received a call from the HR department of Adani group. "I cleared the interview and was offered this job," he said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... =TOI_AShow

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun May 31, 2015 8:24 am

adani is a pet of modi

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Unread post by zinger » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:38 am

Outrage after airline refuses Muslim flier Coke can over `weapon fears'

AGENCIES
LONDON

United Airlines is facing a boycott after a Muslim woman was allegedly refused a can of Diet Coke because “it could be used as a weapon“.
Thousands have voiced their anger online at the treatment of Tahera Ahmad, who complained only to be told by a fellow passenger: “You Muslim, you need to shut the f*** up“.

Ahmad, a university chaplain in Chicago, was travelling from Chicago to Washington on Friday for a confer ence promoting dialogue between Israeli and Palestinian youth. The United Airlines flight was at 30,000 ft when she asked for an unopened can of Diet Coke “for hygiene reasons“. A crew member said she couldn't have it because of security fears.

But minutes later, the female attendant apparently brought an unopened can of beer for the man sitting next Ahmad. “I told her that she was clearly discriminating against me. She looked at his can, grabbed it and opened it and said, `it's so you don't use it as a weapon'.“ Ahmad said.

She added: “I asked people around me if they witnessed this discriminatory and disgusting behaviour. The man sitting in an aisle across from me yelled out to me, `you Moslem, you need to shut the f*** up'.“ Ahmad's account of her experience has been shared by thousands of people on Facebook and Twitter. Users accused the airline of Is lamophobia and urged others to boycott it. Mohammad Alauddin wrote: “We are Muslims, w e aren't terrorists.Everybody should be #unitedfortahera.“ Zohal Alizai wrote: “Never going to book a flight from united airlines again #unitedfortahera.“

US aviation rules allow far bigger unopened drinks on planes. Passengers can take on duty-free bottles of alcohol of up to 5 litres -15 times bigger than a can of Diet Coke.

http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/Arti ... 2015014016

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Would you say Modi is behind this too?

Or is it perhaps because as Muslims, we have given ourselves a bad name thanks to some morons?

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:53 am

there are many people on this forum and outer world who have sympathy and similar attitude for the ideology which created this perception

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Unread post by humanbeing » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:11 am

at some point we all are guilty, many bohra landlords too prefer to give the apartment for rent only to bohras. because they want the maula-nu-photo (aka laxmi / barkat) hanging in thier investments.

however, one of the reason is nuisance created on bakri eid. people enjoy act of slaughter with such sadism and the mess it creates. once i walked into a muslim dominated locality in mumbai and It was naseauting to walk through garish blood and flesh celebration, hanging corpses of goats and cows. the smell and cite remains for couple of days or months.

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Unread post by zinger » Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:56 pm

humanbeing wrote:at some point we all are guilty, many bohra landlords too prefer to give the apartment for rent only to bohras. because they want the maula-nu-photo (aka laxmi / barkat) hanging in thier investments.

however, one of the reason is nuisance created on bakri eid. people enjoy act of slaughter with such sadism and the mess it creates. once i walked into a muslim dominated locality in mumbai and It was naseauting to walk through garish blood and flesh celebration, hanging corpses of goats and cows. the smell and cite remains for couple of days or months.
FYI, people "celebrate" Bakri Idd. That is different from "enjoying act of slaughter with such sadism"

As for the smell remaining for months... im guessing you walked into an abbatoir where they cut animals everyday which is what explains the smell staying for "months". the smell dissipates in a day or 2 at most.

and yes, any Bohra would prefer to have a Bohra tenant rather than a non-Bohra but it is more for convenience and familiarity than your "assumed" reasons

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Unread post by humanbeing » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:10 am

zinger wrote:As for the smell remaining for months... im guessing you walked into an abbatoir where they cut animals everyday which is what explains the smell staying for "months". the smell dissipates in a day or 2 at most.
I was walking through a street amidst the society dominated by muslims and bohra residents, wherein the compound of those buildings were filled with slaughters of goat, sheep, cows and bulls. due to lack of proper arrangements, blood streams were flowing over the footpaths and sidelines. beheaded body of the animals hung and skinned by frantic speed, heads lying on the side waiting to be skinned. kasai ( butchers) trying to hurry up to make most business in the day. the site was garish !!

While bystanders and audience from windows and balcony enjoyed the celebration of the act of slitting, skinning and cutting, laughing and chatting about how the animal reacted and controlled being cut, and body movements, guessing games of body parts, kilos of meat and other jokes on intestines, hoojri, etc.

you may wonder if I am a vegetarian ? I am not, I consume meat. prefer chicken only though. but there are humane and sober ways of completing the slaughter. I understand slaughter is slaughter, but what disturbs me is people's outlook and perception towards animals and slaughtering.

In Kuwait, slaughtering on streets or outside is not allowed, instead ther are dedicated abbatoirs prepared for such festivals to accommodate rush. wherein animals are slaughtered and consumed in hygeniec conditions as well as no nuisance to others. it does not become a freak show. celebrate the feast .. not the act of slaughter. it some how desensitize people. specially kids.

zinger wrote:and yes, any Bohra would prefer to have a Bohra tenant rather than a non-Bohra but it is more for convenience and familiarity than your "assumed" reasons
sure, so do others, lets have a ghettosized, segregetated, divided world.

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Unread post by zinger » Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:25 pm

humanbeing wrote:
zinger wrote:As for the smell remaining for months... im guessing you walked into an abbatoir where they cut animals everyday which is what explains the smell staying for "months". the smell dissipates in a day or 2 at most.
I was walking through a street amidst the society dominated by muslims and bohra residents, wherein the compound of those buildings were filled with slaughters of goat, sheep, cows and bulls. due to lack of proper arrangements, blood streams were flowing over the footpaths and sidelines. beheaded body of the animals hung and skinned by frantic speed, heads lying on the side waiting to be skinned. kasai ( butchers) trying to hurry up to make most business in the day. the site was garish !! SORRY MY FRIEND, BUT IT WAS BAKRI IDD. SUGGEST THIS YEAR ON BAKRI IDD YOU STAY AT HOME SO AS TO NOT OFFEND YOUR SENSIBILITIES

While bystanders and audience from windows and balcony enjoyed the celebration of the act of slitting, skinning and cutting, laughing and chatting about how the animal reacted and controlled being cut, and body movements, guessing games of body parts, kilos of meat and other jokes on intestines, hoojri, etc. PEOPLE JOKE YES, ITS A CELEBRATION, YOU CANT SAY THAT THEY DO HAVE TO BE IN GRIEF NOW SHOULD THEY? BUT NO BOHRA MUSLIM OR NON BOHRA MUSLIM HAVE I EVER MET YET, WHO "laughing and chatting about how the animal reacted and controlled being cut," YES, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO TAKE IT CASUALLY BUT I AM YET TO MEET SOMEONE WHO LAUGHS WATCHING AN ANIMAL IN PAIN. ABOUT THE GUESSING GAME, WELL, BIG DEAL. THEY ARE JUST GUESSING THE AMOUNF OF MEAT AND WHAT ORGAN IS WHAT? WHEN DID THAT BECOME A CRIME?

you may wonder if I am a vegetarian ? I am not, I consume meat. prefer chicken only though. but there are humane and sober ways of completing the slaughter. I understand slaughter is slaughter, but what disturbs me is people's outlook and perception towards animals and slaughtering. THE WORD IN THIS CONTEXT HERE IS ZABIHAT/QURBANI. AND THIS OUTLOOK IS UNIVERSAL. I HOPE YOU ARE NOT PLANNING ON PINNING IT ON THE DAWOODI BOHRA COMMUNITY

In Kuwait, slaughtering on streets or outside is not allowed, instead ther are dedicated abbatoirs prepared for such festivals to accommodate rush. wherein animals are slaughtered and consumed in hygeniec conditions as well as no nuisance to others. it does not become a freak show. celebrate the feast .. not the act of slaughter. it some how desensitize people. specially kids.

zinger wrote:and yes, any Bohra would prefer to have a Bohra tenant rather than a non-Bohra but it is more for convenience and familiarity than your "assumed" reasons
sure, so do others, lets have a ghettosized, segregetated, divided world. YOU HAVE DELVED DEEPER INTO WHAT I WROTE THAN WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WOULD. IM JUST SAYING THAT IN CASE OF A LANDLORD, IT IS HIS PROPERTY SO WHY SHOULD HE NOT WANT TO LET IT OUT PEOPLE OF HIS OWN COMMUNITY. TRY BUYING A FLAT IN NAVJIVAN SOCIETY IN BOMBAY CENTRAL AND TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS. IT IS SIMPLY A CASE OF WANTING TO LIVE WITH LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE. NOT GHETTOISATION AND SEGREGATION MY GOOD FRIEND

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Unread post by Muslim First » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:01 am

sure, so do others, lets have a ghettosized, segregetated, divided world. YOU HAVE DELVED DEEPER INTO WHAT I WROTE THAN WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WOULD. IM JUST SAYING THAT IN CASE OF A LANDLORD, IT IS HIS PROPERTY SO WHY SHOULD HE NOT WANT TO LET IT OUT PEOPLE OF HIS OWN COMMUNITY. TRY BUYING A FLAT IN NAVJIVAN SOCIETY IN BOMBAY CENTRAL AND TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS. IT IS SIMPLY A CASE OF WANTING TO LIVE WITH LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE. NOT GHETTOISATION AND SEGREGATION MY GOOD FRIEND
Here in USA you can set some rules for renting. Like no smoking or no pets. In some cases you may not rent to family with 10 kids in one BR apartment. You certainly cannot say I will not rent to somebody based on cast, creed, color or sexual orientation.

India is different case.
Case of Bhohri brother in Saurastra is example.

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Re: MBA Graduate In Mumbai Denied Job For Being Muslim

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:53 pm

Ghetto effect:much higher than in other similar localities in Gujarat

Close on the heels of Misbhah Qadri ordeal by not allowing herself to live in Mumbai's posh locality wadala because of her religion, Gujarat is known for highest number of ghettos for Muslims as minorities are not getting houses and offices in Hindu dominated areas. Juhapapura- Gujarat's largest ghetto for Muslims is very much in news since 2002 infamous riots, now, a sense of insecurity among the Muslims in Gujarat has manifested itself even in realty rates in Surat, with property prices in Muslim-dominated areas being much higher than in other similar localities of the city.

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Re: MBA Graduate In Mumbai Denied Job For Being Muslim

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:04 pm

Why Zeeshan’s job denial should be a game-changer

It is well known that Indian Muslims suffer multiple forms of deprivation and discrimination, especially in access to education and white-collar jobs. But it’s only very rarely that an instance of blatant discrimination, practised consciously as policy, comes to light, based on hard, irrefutable evidence. That happened in the case of 22-year-old Zeeshan Ali Khan, a management graduate who applied for a job with a big Mumbai-based diamond export firm — only to be told: “We regret to inform you that we hire only non-Muslim candidates”.

The company, Hari Krishna Exports, with businesses in 50 countries, has denied that this is its policy, and blamed a human resources department “trainee”, who is “unaware” of corporate policy. It claims it has 71 Muslims on its 8,500-strong payroll. Its chairman said the employee didn’t “realise the gravity of her blunder”. When asked if it’s planning to take disciplinary action against her, he merely said: “What will we gain out of it?” This speaks of a strange moral calculus — especially if the employee acted on her own against company policy, which many people doubt.

Two encouraging things have happened since. The police have registered a complaint against the company under Section 153-B of the Indian Penal Code, which deals with hurting religious sentiments or denying persons their rights by virtue of their religion. Second, two of Zeeshan’s classmates, both Hindu, have decided not to take up a job with the firm. This is a welcome sign of solidarity.

Zeeshan would be ill-advised to let political parties take up his case. Rather, it should be pursued by the National and Maharashtra minorities commissions, and by conscientious individuals cutting across religious lines, as part of a major legal initiative. This must aim to secure from the higher judiciary an unambiguous interpretation of laws pertaining to non-discrimination on the grounds of religion. The initiative must include cases, too numerous to be counted, of the systematic exclusion of Muslims from cooperative housing societies, and landlords’ refusal to rent flats to them. This is the experience of middle-class and affluent Muslims, leave alone poor ones, in most Indian cities, who are now forced to move into ghettoes.

Such discrimination is not necessarily nastier than the other disadvantages or deprivations that most Indian Muslims suffer from, including denial of educational opportunities, healthcare facilities, municipal amenities and civic infrastructure in Muslim-majority areas, or a strong bias against employment in government jobs, access to bank lending, etc. The Sachar committee has documented all this amply.

What makes the exclusion of Muslims from certain neighbourhoods and their ghettoisation pernicious is the segregation that’s involved, and its ever newer forms and insidious nature. Landlords will agree to rent their houses, but suddenly renege on the deal after discovering the tenant’s religious identity. Chemists, florists, grocers and pizza-delivery boys will boycott the ghettoes. There will no government dispensaries, milk booths or bank branches in them. Autorickshaw drivers will charge you extra for getting there.

Segregation happens with predictable, if revolting, frequency, but for unstated reasons. Under it, Hindu and Muslim children will grow up loathing but not knowing one another. That’s why the reality of the discrimination, the vicious prejudice involved, the silent demonisation of a category of citizens must be revealed and punished by creating a special complaints commission, which aggrieved citizens can approach. This must be followed by an amendment to our anti-discrimination and hate-speech laws that’s similar to the Scheduled Castes (Prevention of Atrocities) Act, which reverses the burden of proof if the complaints commission finds a strong prima facie case.

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Re: MBA Graduate In Mumbai Denied Job For Being Muslim

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Unread post by Muslim First » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:18 pm

What makes the exclusion of Muslims from certain neighbourhoods and their ghettoisation pernicious is the segregation that’s involved, and its ever newer forms and insidious nature. Landlords will agree to rent their houses, but suddenly renege on the deal after discovering the tenant’s religious identity.
Here is spirited defense of Land lord rights by Zinger
sure, so do others, lets have a ghettosized, segregetated, divided world. YOU HAVE DELVED DEEPER INTO WHAT I WROTE THAN WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WOULD. IM JUST SAYING THAT IN CASE OF A LANDLORD, IT IS HIS PROPERTY SO WHY SHOULD HE NOT WANT TO LET IT OUT PEOPLE OF HIS OWN COMMUNITY. TRY BUYING A FLAT IN NAVJIVAN SOCIETY IN BOMBAY CENTRAL AND TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS. IT IS SIMPLY A CASE OF WANTING TO LIVE WITH LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE. NOT GHETTOISATION AND SEGREGATION MY GOOD FRIEND


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