simple question to insaf

[porus]

according to you who is the authorised guardian of the faith...you or moula(tus).
do you accept him as dai or not.or a dai as per your rule book...dont gimme a complicated web.just a simple yes or no

It is clear that both Haggun Nafs and guy-sam2005 do not understand the arguments that have been put forward here. And they resort to their stock-in-trade device which is to accuse their opponents of the 'sin of unbelief', a cultish behavior.

Which faith is the moula guardian of? Is it Islam? Then why is it that he violates some parts of the Quran?

I do not know if preventing Bohras for going to Makka or Madina by Sayedna was under Saudi pressure. But, this must be the first time in history that someone has prevented Muslims from going there.

Whether it was a Saudi decision or Sayedna's decision, the logic behind the decision is clear enough. Bohras would not be going there to pay their respects to the Kaaba or the Prophet but for adoration of their moula. That would be unIslamic and both Saudis and Sayedna know this. And yet, this behavior of the Bohras persists outside the Haramain.

A guardian of Islam would be welcomed with open arms by all Muslims but this appears not to be the case with Sayedna. At least, they believe that he is not the guardian of their faith. And they include most Muslims including the Ithna-ashari Shia.

[Al Zulfiqar]

what the idiot abdes dont understand is that all reformists accept that as per our bohra beliefs we have to have a dai who leads the community. we also accept that present syedna is occupying that office of dai. but we say that he is corrupt and his whole family is corrupt, high handed, arrogant, rude and tyrannical. accepting that he is a dai, doesnt mean we have to accept that whatever he does is beyond question and beyond accountability.

he is liable, as all dai's were before him without exception, to answer to the community's concerns and to provide clear and comprehensive accounts of community's funds and properties. questioning what is our right as guaranteed by the state and islam and obeyed in the past by the prophet and ali himself, cannot make us or anyone a muddai or munafik or sinner or as termed by the accused, 'daawat na dushman'.

the attempt of the abdes to equate any questioning of the absolutely unislamic and illegal behaviour of the dai and his parasite family with un-abde or non-bohra like behaviour, is like a criminal declaring that the accuser, the judge and jury are all sinners and kafirs and have no jurisdiction over him.

now if even this simple logic cannot sink into the tiny little brains of the khaal donors, then we have no choice except to declare them as mentally unfit and retarded.

[anajmi]

where is the fuc!@# moderator of this Fuc!@# forum? why cant he send this fuc!@# anajmi a guide book to respect others

It sounds kotharical when haggun nuts throws abuses in a post where he is trying to teach respect. That is how the Syedna and the kothar work. Cheat when talking about salvation and abuse when talking about respect.

[Aarif]

That is how the Syedna and the kothar work. Cheat when talking about salvation and abuse when talking about respect.

Excellent one Anajmi.. You have explained the giest of bohraism in one sentence as propogated by Syedna and company...

[guy_sam2005]

guy moron,

You wouldn't understand a simple answer. 10 different people have given the simple answer in 20 different ways and you still haven't figured it out. Your Dai is the guardian only of your pockets.

that means you dont accept him as your dai..then who according to you is head of dawoodi bohras?

[guy_sam2005]

where is the fuc!@# moderator of this Fuc!@# forum? why cant he send this fuc!@# anajmi a guide book to respect others

Hey HN - where did you learn such lisaan-e-dawaat. at the sabaks or was that during the ashara waez - sounds like words straight out of the noorani lips of the (princes) shehzadas? You are a true Abde.

and where did anajmi and az n jc learn?from highly educated asgar n insaaf?

[Al Zulfiqar]

Hey HN - where did you learn such lisaan-e-dawaat. at the sabaks or was that during the ashara waez - sounds like words straight out of the noorani lips of the (princes) shehzadas? You are a true Abde.

and where did anajmi and az n jc learn?from highly educated asgar n insaaf?

the only way to learn this ridiculous lisane dawaat or lizard of adawat, is from the syedna and his parasite family.

[themonster31]

haqqun nafs if i not belive in dai i m not bohra but if you not belive in Quran u r not muslim

[haqqun nafs]

haqqun nafs if i not belive in dai i m not bohra but if you not belive in Quran u r not muslim

excuse me but who does not belives in Quraan? are u on some kind of drugs?

[Smart]

@HN
It is you who does not believe in Quran. You are a member of a person worshipping cult or club. This is what you have been posting all along, asking people those who don't or cannot pay their dues to leave and go.

[SBM]

HN
Does Quran or Sunnate Muhammed allows WADHAWA or is it Sunnate Taheri/Burhani aka Aarti of Ganpati

[ghulam muhammed]

then who according to you is head of dawoodi bohras?

Who according to you is head of Islam ? And whether are the self proclaimed leaders religously following His tenets ?