Aamil bashed up

[merchant786]

I am new to this forum,
have been reading the posts from last few days and wanted to know about this incident if someone has any idea.

The Aamil of Burhanpur and Galiyakot durgah was bashed in front of Raudat tahera when he was coming out after doing ziyarat.
It was done by some local bohra youth who was treated badly during his visit to galiyakot and was thrown out of the durgah due to some issues.

Does anyone has any idea about this????

[merchant786]

Also the name of the Aamil is Aun ali and he has also amassed properties worth crores in Mp and surat.

He has also recently purchased a bungalow on a prime hill station

[like_minded]

Aun ali is an A Grade ..............!! I don't know if he was bashed up, If its true.... I am happy... The rogue deserves it fully

[merchant786]

Well he is i know ,,,,
he has been in this postion from last 15 years and he has amassed a lot of wealth

he does not fear from anyone now...not even syedna as he knows all the secrets of the Kothar and saifee mahal and therefore they cannot take any action against them.

he is also a close Aide of Khair bahisaheb who is involved in almost all the hawalas happening in surat

[Smart]

A long time ago he was posted as a small mulazim in Burhanpur and later Dongaon. He was a mulla then and had the same reputation then. His name then was transformed by residents as"
Mulla Aunali Malla Aunali Malaun ali.
That pretty much sums up his reputation.

Well the fact remains that "Laaton ke bhoot, baaton se nahi mante"

[merchant786]

well he thinks galiyakot and burhanpur are his property and he can do whatever he want
but he forgot that he is in the 21st century and there are still some poeple who can do answer back

I dont know where does his family stays.....or where is he from....what has he done good for the community

any comments or replies????

[mumin]

There are a lot of oun ali types all over. specially in birmingham u.k. , australia in the u.s. and canada. some of the wali mullas and secretaries of these jamaats also think them selves bhaisahebs. Amitab bachan and sharukh khan are no match to their first class acting. some have become so arrogant because of their little clout in the local jamats that they have forgotten to say sorry or thank you. since they have become khidmat guzars they think it is their god given right to occupy special places in the first row in masjids, treat people like they were his slaves. asking the mumineen to do all kinds of things for them for free. some body needs to take notice and put a stop to such expoitation. I just do not understand why mumineen have such a low esteem of themselves in front of the bhaisaheb ? I have even seen big bussinessmen bend down with hands folded in front of bhaisaheb. A typical lion and sheep posture. as if the lion was ready to pounce on the sheep.

[Al Zulfiqar]

I just do not understand why mumineen have such a low esteem of themselves in front of the bhaisaheb ? I have even seen big bussinessmen bend down with hands folded in front of bhaisaheb. A typical lion and sheep posture. as if the lion was ready to pounce on the sheep.

mumin,

thats exactly the crux of the problem. most, if not all bohras are subservient in the extreme in front of all authority esp. our clergy, and you see them feigning and whimpering in front of them. in fact some of them appear ready to wet their diapers, shaking at the knees and drooling all over them. its such a sorry sight that one doesnt know whether to cry at them or slap them in anger.

what our bohras are doing is a classic case of weaklings appeasing a blood thirsty monster, which instead of being appeased becomes even more blood thirsty and sadistic as he sees what his fierce roars and flame belching is doing to these pitiable souls. duniya jhukti hai, jhukanewala chahiye...

to be honest, many a times i feel our bohras fully deserve the bullshit they are getting. a clap is only sounded with both hands. throughout history, peoples have got the govts they deserved. the day the realisation comes to them that they are being and have been hoodwinked on a massive scale, that day will be the beginning of the revolution.

[like_minded]

There are a lot of oun ali types all over. specially in birmingham u.k. , australia in the u.s. and canada. some of the wali mullas and secretaries of these jamaats also think them selves bhaisahebs. Amitab bachan and sharukh khan are no match to their first class acting. some have become so arrogant because of their little clout in the local jamats that they have forgotten to say sorry or thank you. since they have become khidmat guzars they think it is their god given right to occupy special places in the first row in masjids, treat people like they were his slaves. asking the mumineen to do all kinds of things for them for free. some body needs to take notice and put a stop to such expoitation. I just do not understand why mumineen have such a low esteem of themselves in front of the bhaisaheb ? I have even seen big bussinessmen bend down with hands folded in front of bhaisaheb. A typical lion and sheep posture. as if the lion was ready to pounce on the sheep.

The bottom line is... The general masses like being treated as slaves primarily because they are made to believe that they are sinners in need of salvation., What can you expect from people who think low of themselves, who think they are worthless?? they will stoop down on a drop of a hat.

It's time people start believing in themselves because that is the only way out.

[Hussain_KSA]

well he thinks galiyakot and burhanpur are his property and he can do whatever he want
but he forgot that he is in the 21st century and there are still some poeple who can do answer back

I dont know where does his family stays.....or where is he from....what has he done good for the community

any comments or replies????

Well, Aoun Ali is an ...... from Malegaon and his wife is dughter of Mullah Turab Zaki of Aurngabad. He was manger of Dargah Mualai Nooruddin before 25 years. Due to same behaviour he was severly beaten up and forced to resign by reformist people ( it was starting of reform movement in Aurangabd in 1983). I have written the story in details sometime back on this forum.

Regards.

[merchant786]

But he is a big crook and he will grow much larger if Muffadal bhaisaheb becomes a syedna ....

[Human]

I am new to this forum,
have been reading the posts from last few days and wanted to know about this incident if someone has any idea.

The Aamil of Burhanpur and Galiyakot durgah was bashed in front of Raudat tahera when he was coming out after doing ziyarat.
It was done by some local bohra youth who was treated badly during his visit to galiyakot and was thrown out of the durgah due to some issues.

Does anyone has any idea about this????

Yes merchant, I've heard the same story about Aun Ali being beaten up in Mumbai. I do not have any proof regarding it, but I'm certain it might have happened.

Just to refresh, Aamil of Jamnagar was beaten up in the past too. Here are the details:

http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=919

I've heard that there were a lot of gaali galoch and anger with this Jamnagar aamil and then he was bashed up with chairs, punches, kicks etc. Props were used in his beating up and he than fled away.

[merchant786]

The reason why he was possibly beaten up was becoz he refused to cut the cake on the Milad of syedna without a huge salaam.

Also the jamaat refused for that huge salaam so in a fit of rage he threw the cake out which angered the people....

Its so surprising that the Aamil did not even care for Syedna when it came to money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Human]

Its so surprising that the Aamil did not even care for Syedna when it came to money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well said! I'm also noticing the absence of orthies from this thread and I'm not surprised.

[S. Insaf]

The Orthodox contributers on this board jump in only when a finger is raised against Sayedna Saheb not otherwise. So we know who they are.

[merchant786]

You are right Insaf bhai...This people only know what they are told to...becoz anyways Syedna do not allow them to study and push them to do business stating that we should not work for someone...but he does not have a problem when he sees a beggar in front of his corrupt father's Dargah.

This guys will never understand why do this Aamil and Syedna do all this

[merchant786]

why are there no orthos to talk on this post????????

Dont worry Guys you have the raza...

[merchant786]

Hey I have heard some problems going on In some Malad town of Mumbai....guys is there anyone staying there or knowing about the same?????

[guy_sam2005]

You are right Insaf bhai...This people only know what they are told to...becoz anyways Syedna do not allow them to study and push them to do business stating that we should not work for someone...but he does not have a problem when he sees a beggar in front of his corrupt father's Dargah.

This guys will never understand why do this Aamil and Syedna do all this

i have told before too some aamils are very corrupt,secondly you call syedna n his father corrupt..so u dont want then ur dii's.wat exactly do u want,

[S. Insaf]

Brother guy_sam2005,
If you are a manager then it is your duty to work and make your sub-ordinates to work in the interest of the organization. If you and your subordinates work in their self interest and do not benefit the organization they will critised and opposed till they amend their ways.
We believe in the Fatemi Dawat which is religious mission to guide the followers in the religious matters. It is not suppose to interfere in the worldly matters of the community, what to wear, how to manage community's properties, where to spend their Zakat money either among their poor relatives or neighbors.
Fatemi Dawat does not impose restrictions on dress, e-jammat cards, raza and all masjids and other institutions must be available for all the Bohra.
Since present Sayedna Saheb has claimed ownership of all community's properties including masjids and kabrasrtan and has imposed restrictions on entry without Raza and e-jamat cards he is bound to be criticized and opposed till he shuns a dictatorial policy adopts a liberal policy.

[S. Insaf]

It is the duty of a Dai to become a symbol and icon of simplicity, piety, religiosity and spirituality. Any kind of extravagancy for him is Haram.
But we find him spending a huge amount of community's wealth on his glorification, upkeep of Mahals, Journeis to far away places with his Shahzadas by plains, by luxury cars, organising hi fi tamashas, relay on the wide scale, and meetings with worldly leaders etc.
His lifestyle is definitely not “religious or spiritual” and in contrast to Nabi Saheb, Hazrat Ali, Imam Husain and most importantly the earlier Duatu-Mutlaqueen.

[Alhumdollilah]

^all of your posts are full of personal hatered to syedna then any intellectual and logical as well practical debate,if u had any knowledge of islaam and common sense you would understand there is no point to relate and compare todays world scenerio with 1400 years back situation.

there was no air planes and luxurious cars in era of prophet Muhammed(saw) or Imam Ali and comparing a DAI with prophet or Imam just shows your ignorance.

[guy_sam2005]

to add to alhamd,
moreover we would not like to see moula(tus)travel or live or use anything but the best......and most of the luxury cars u talk about are gifted....

[SBM]

.and most of the luxury cars u talk about are gifted....

Gifted by Shawkat Sarkar who had a SUPARI on him and was shot dead point blank

[Al Zulfiqar]

there was no air planes and luxurious cars in era of prophet Muhammed(saw) or Imam Ali and comparing a DAI with prophet or Imam just shows your ignorance.

al dhillah, for once you are absolutely correct. comparing dai with prophet or imam is a show of ignorance. he should be compared to allah.

his father said in court under oath that he is ilahul ardh, or god on earth, and his son claims that he is haqiqi kaaba and natiq e quran, attributes which he ascribes to himself - the qualities of allah. so why waste time comparing dai with mere mortals, when he can perform miracles, see behind cement pillars and live ta qayamat, which only a divine being can do?

[Smart]

^
Thanks for making things clear. Now, I have one question for the orthies on this board.

"When you have the ilahul ardh and the haqiqi kaaba amongst you, how do decide the direction in which you pray the namaaz?"

The kaaba for all the rest of us who pray to Allah, is a fixed position in Makkah, do you have rotating masallas operated by the gps system, so that it automatically points to your true(haqiqi) kaaba, even when he is in a supersonic jetliner?

[Human]

.and most of the luxury cars u talk about are gifted....

Gifted by Shawkat Sarkar who had a SUPARI on him and was shot dead point blank

Oma, have you got any links for what happened with this Shawkat Sarkar and the Supari? I just wanted to know more as I don't know about it in detail.

[SBM]

^
It has been posted on this forum somewhere when that incident took place. Also the story appeared in Mid-Day. I will try to find the link

[SBM]

Here is the link about Shaikh Shuakat Sarkar
http://www.rediff.com/news/1998/oct/29sar.htm

[SBM]

Hotel owner shot dead (1999)

MUMBAI, Nov 9: In a daring attack, three armed desperados shot dead the owner of a Suburban Hotel and injured his driver at Bandra here today, police said.

Police said Shaukat Sarkar, the owner of Hotel Metro International’ was proceeding in his car towards Khar in North-West Mumbai at 0930 hours when three persons in an autorickshaw intercepted his vehicle near Pali Market.

They fired at point blank range from their pistols at Shaukat and his driver before fleeing the scene.

Shaukat was declared dead on admission at the nearby Bhabha Hospital and his driver, Abdul Gaffar’s condition was stated to be critical.

Shaukat had earlier been arrested in a sensational car theft case, wherein 21 imported vehicles were recovered from his premises. The motive for his killing was yet to be ascertained, police sources said.

Two empty cartridges were recovered from the spot by a police investigating team.

Police have launched a vigorous search and were on the trail of the rickshaw driver, who could lead them to the killers. (PTI)