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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby mustafanalwalla on Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:34 am

i have read it and replied to you on it.

In case you missed it, let me reiterate "Obviously, the stork delivered you"
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby Al Zulfiqar on Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:58 am

mustafanalwalla wrote:i have read it and replied to you on it.

In case you missed it, let me reiterate "Obviously, the stork delivered you"


your replies betray your low IQ. do you even understand the term 'emasculation'..? or is that you are unable to concentrate on anything for more than a nano second, the strong platonic urges for syedna overpowering your every waking moment?? :wink:
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby mustafanalwalla on Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:01 am

Emasculation is the removal of the genitalia (castration) of a male, notably the penis and/or the testicles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emasculation

So if you believe that all Bohra men, over the last 2 Dai's are emasculated, it can only mean that the stork did indeed deliver you... :mrgreen:

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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby stranger on Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:14 am

mustafanalwalla wrote:So if you believe that all Bohra men, over the last 2 Dai's are emasculated, it can only mean that the stork did indeed deliver you... :mrgreen:


lol :mrgreen: Good One Mustafa Bhai :lol:
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby Al Zulfiqar on Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:52 pm

mustafanalwalla wrote:Emasculation is the removal of the genitalia (castration) of a male, notably the penis and/or the testicles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emasculation

So if you believe that all Bohra men, over the last 2 Dai's are emasculated, it can only mean that the stork did indeed deliver you... :mrgreen:


your reply in itself clearly betrays the emasculation of your mind, which btw you had to look up on the internet to find out what it means...!!

any strong urges for the syedna today, mn?
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby Al Zulfiqar on Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:34 am

new rules contd..

40) in order to make a clear statement to the entire bohra abde community and to the world at large, esp. the sunni pests, who keep demanding to know what the bohra beliefs are, the HPC at DEH (high powered committee at dawate hadiyah) has decided to define what makes a bohra, i.e. the correct definition of a bohra.

this is a preview of the manifesto which will be further refined and then sent to all amils in all bilaads, vatans and moze's.

a dawoodi bohra is a shia ismaili tayyebi dawoodi muslim (SITDM) of the mustaa'lian sect who believes that allah sent down several prophets and the last one was muhammad. besides muhammad himself, 4 members of his immediate family are counted as panjatan paak who are revered by bohras and belief in them is sacrosanct
the panjatan are divine, infallible, and thus blameless, sinless and perfect

the imams who succeeded the panjatan were also all divine and thus infallible, blameless, sinless and perfect

a dynasty of fatimi imams established an empire in egypt and ruled as absolute emperors, enjoying a life of pomp, luxury and grandeur. their fabulous lifestyle full of ceremony, ease and indolence became the appropriate template to be emulated by the last 2 bohra dais, who have chosen to fashion their behaviour and rule on the fatimi emperors/imams and not on the austere life and simple practices of the founding fathers of our shia and islamic sect

the 21st imam was under threat from his enemies and being a mere innocent toddler was whisked away by his guardians into hiding and relative safety

he obviously reached the age of maturity while incognito, married maybe once or several times and multiplied his clan fruitfully

it is a cornerstone of the SITDM's beliefs that the line from imam tayyib continues; unseen, unabated and unbroken, all the while in mysterious and secret hidden locations while they watch over us and are in complete touch with every little detail and nuance of our society

while making urgent and hasty preparations to flee, the wee tayyib conferred nass on one of his chosen dais of whom there were many in those days and in various hierarchies; from the chief hujjatul al balaagh to dai ul balaagh to finally the lowly and ordinary dai who functioned as a missionary in remote stations

since tayyib was in no position to work out the technical modalities for this transfer of power and duties associated with this divine spiritual mission and to arrange the public swearing-in of the new appointee at a grand and opulent ceremony; a pious, but wealthy and influential yemeni lady called hurratal maleka, who was a great benefactor and adherent of our sect, undertook the formalities on infant tayyib's behalf

she took it upon herself, of course in accordance with instructions left behind by 3 yr old tayyib, to anoint the chosen dai as an absolute or supreme missionary - dai ul mutlaq, who would not be limited by any restrictions in his mission of inviting non-believers and infidels to our ranks

it was considered prudent, in the face of continued hostility from surrounding fanatic tribes, and of long term benefit, to look eastwards to expand this sect as there were not many ripe pickings available for their beliefs in the arab gulf countries

the mission in india landed in trouble when the by-now majority indian adherents rebelled against being controlled and ruled by a miniscule minority from abroad

thus the split and subsequent deviant dawoodi sect came into existence and has continued although with various hiccups and internecine quarrels amongst the claimants to the gaddi, although all the dais until the last few continued to vigorously bring in more converts to our faith, considering that as their foremost article of faith

with the advent of the last 2 world wars and the consequent opportunities for bohra traders to accumulate wealth from military contracts for war efforts and the creeping polarisation of all world societies, the last 2 dai's have abandoned their proselytization missionary activities altogether and have concentrated on building the wealth of their community and in direct proportion, their own

the SITDM's believe that since allah sent down the prophets to be succeeded by divinely appointed imams followed by the caravan of supreme infallible dais, this is a divine chain and thus every functionary in this chain is infallible, sinless, perfect and absolute in his authority. so far this chain does not include the regional and local functionaries called amils, sent out by the dai to every city, town and village to administer the unruly and sometimes rebellious abdes, maximise monetary collections for himself and the dai's family, (who need this pitiful pittance to keep their bodies and souls together) and enforce absolute obedience to the dai

the dai's sole purpose is to emphasise that total, slavish and complete faith in him is equal to devotion and worship of allah. this is a divine mission entrusted in him by allah himself, by encouraging sajda to the dai's divine presence, equating himself with the kaaba and automatically thus the lord and master of the hajr al aswad, and actively spreading the theory that he is immortal.

the dai is the sole living authority on the quran and no one, but no one, is authorised by allah to interpret, analyse and disseminate the wisdom between its pages, except him

now once this chain of divinity is established and completely and totally accepted by his devout followers, (of course under a divine oath called misaaq) then no deviation is tolerated or allowed and even the slightest non-conformation by 0.001%, can lead to the displeasure of the supreme leader and thus social ostracism and denial to participate in communal activities of any sort

the last 2 dais have made it a cornerstone of the SITDM faith and the very raison de etre' of their spiritual journey through this miserable world, that the remembrance and ritual mourning for the martyrs of kerbala is an absolute must and must be observed at all times of the day, between obligatory prayers, and at both sad and joyous occasions like weddings, birthdays, graduations, success in business, study or jobs, both eids, the birth of newborn babies, and even the greatly happy occasions of the dai's birthdays, at winning sports tournaments like cricket, table tennis and after card games or any other games of chance which lead to winnings

signs of any rebellion, non-obedience and scepticism from abde bohras will invariably result in incurring the extreme wrath of allah and eternal punishment in the most terrifying regions of hell

unless the sinner repents with prolonged periods of penance, apologies, public humiliations and very substantial monetary offerings, he has no hope for salvation and dai will not allow allah to interfere in the cleansing process of the mortal sinner

dai has the sole rights to judge your soul now and in the hereafter, depending on your degree of obedience, as well as your continous participation in religious, social and cultural events, and the outwardly manifest signs of worshipping dai, established by the sums of money you shower on him and his deserving family.

no SITDM may be accorded a burial without the pleasure and release from the dai through his local emissary, and once this divine permission is obtained, the dai's personal note to allah is enclosed in his shroud for smooth entry into jannah. this guarantees a comfortable and peaceful spot and stay in paradise with all standard amenities included. please note that 99.999% of human beings incl. other muslims, are not assured of these creature comforts

the visible and physically identifying signs of a true bohra male are his white-as-snow dress which includes a long tunic over loose but soft pants, a further buttonless cloak which lends a regal and angelic demeanour, the head is respectfully covered with a unique white, gold or silver crocheted cap and the face is adorned with an untrimmed and uncut beard which is allowed to sway free and unruly, unrestricted from any encumbrances like hair nets or clips, ties and pins etc

a bohra female wears a 2 piece loose garment to cover her head and torso from the waist down. this is usually very colorful and decorated with expensive and elaborate patterns, embroidery, beads, sequins, silver and gold threads. they are made to resemble the colorful hooris who will greet the devout abde bohras when they barge through the gates of paradise

a bohra who has surrendered his complete body, soul and mind to the dai's authority must never ever question his actions and words, neither those of his divine family, amils and working committees of jamaats, for they all flow in unbroken tributaries from divinely pristine sources and merge into the pure waters of the ganges

a SITDM once established as a worshipper, is forever forbidden from weighing any action, utterance or behaviour of the syedna and his chain of commandants against the quran, or the life and teachings, practices and hadees of the prophet and the panjatan paak. a devout bohra has no authority, knowledge or sanction to do so and cannot harbour any erroneous observations/doubts that he/she may feel that they have on the (mistakenly) deviant behaviour of the divine leaders

this manifesto is almost complete for review by the syedna and his mansoos and the mansoos' hitherto hidden mansoos. 'deep throat' informs me that this may be released after ashura, but may be gradually expounded by syedna during his muharram discourses as a prelude to the slaughter of the innocents at kerbala...

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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby mustafanalwalla on Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:05 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
mustafanalwalla wrote:Emasculation is the removal of the genitalia (castration) of a male, notably the penis and/or the testicles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emasculation

So if you believe that all Bohra men, over the last 2 Dai's are emasculated, it can only mean that the stork did indeed deliver you... :mrgreen:


your reply in itself clearly betrays the emasculation of your mind, which btw you had to look up on the internet to find out what it means...!!

any strong urges for the syedna today, mn?




Haa Haa Haa... I didnt need to look up the internet to understand what it meant, i did it cause i thought you might have misunderstood what you thought, emasculation meant

PS. No strong urges, justa whole lot of devotion :p
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby Al Zulfiqar on Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:36 am

mn,

talk of the moon and sixpence... !! go figure.... :)

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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby porus on Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:43 pm

Al Z,

Thank you for your brilliant contributions. You are peerless among contributors here. What, with matchless wit, you hit the nail right on its head! Please continue enlightening us.

Did I say thank you? Well, thank you a bunch!

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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby Al Zulfiqar on Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:49 pm

porus,

thanks for your rather extravagant compliments, which are way more than i deserve. to wit, i'll agree, but enlightenment? that is what i glean from YOUR posts, and often i feel like a humble student at the feet of your knowledge.

you are welcome
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby profastian on Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:36 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:porus,

thanks for your rather extravagant compliments, which are way more than i deserve. to wit, i'll agree, but enlightenment? that is what i glean from YOUR posts, and often i feel like a humble student at the feet of your knowledge.

you are welcome

Why don't you guys get a room....
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby mustafanalwalla on Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:49 am

profastian wrote:
Al Zulfiqar wrote:porus,

thanks for your rather extravagant compliments, which are way more than i deserve. to wit, i'll agree, but enlightenment? that is what i glean from YOUR posts, and often i feel like a humble student at the feet of your knowledge.

you are welcome

Why don't you guys get a room....

:D :D :D
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby anajmi on Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:51 am

In another thread you were interested in someone suckling breasts and over here you want them to get a room. Now we know why the abde idiots have less blood going to their brains. Cause they have a limited supply (after the kothar has sucked much of it) and from your posts we know where the rest is going. :mrgreen:

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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby mustafanalwalla on Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:58 am

^

What a bizzare post.

Anajmi my friend, do you post just for the sake of posting?

i mean, your post neither refutes nor proves a point.

So what exactly is the point of this post of yours?
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby Ala maqaam on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:02 am

anajmi wrote:In another thread you were interested in someone suckling breasts and over here you want them to get a room. Now we know why the abde idiots have less blood going to their brains. Cause they have a limited supply (after the kothar has sucked much of it) and from your posts we know where the rest is going. :mrgreen:
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby anajmi on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:07 am

My point is that you normally do not understand posts. You are not smart enough.

A famous hollywood actor once said that God has given man two organs that need blood to function, but he gave them blood enough for just one organ. Since you didn't understand my post, I will explain it to you as the other abde idiots probably didn't get it either. The two organs are the brain and the p-nis. What that means is that if blood is flowing to your p-nis, then you are incapable of thinking as your brain is not getting sufficient blood. Your brother idiot has been thinking about breasts and love rooms. Now can you put 2 and 2 together?

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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby mustafanalwalla on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:11 am

:roll:
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby profastian on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:54 am

Anajmi, was "outed" in the thread
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6623

That is why he is throwing temper tantrums :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby anajmi on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:41 am

And my temper tantrums are clearly affecting your ability to think. That is, if you had any in the first place. :mrgreen:

mustafa, after ROFLMAO so many times, I guess you had to get back in line eh?? Pity!!
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby mustafanalwalla on Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:08 am

actually Anajmi, i chose to edit my post because i dont believe in kicking a man when he is down
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby Al Zulfiqar on Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:59 am

mustafanalwalla wrote:actually Anajmi, i chose to edit my post because i dont believe in kicking a man when he is down


mn, the only reason you chose to edit your post and remove text, but insert stupid smiley faces, is that everytime you open your mouth to utter words, you end up with your foot in it instead!

and the fact that you smile with prof's post betrays the fact that you share the same mental sickness that he has.

so do you both get together and conjure up these strong orgasmic urges for syedna together??
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby fearAllah on Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:34 am

profastian wrote:
Al Zulfiqar wrote:porus,

thanks for your rather extravagant compliments, which are way more than i deserve. to wit, i'll agree, but enlightenment? that is what i glean from YOUR posts, and often i feel like a humble student at the feet of your knowledge.

you are welcome

Why don't you guys get a room....


Why dont you advise such wise things to Burhannudin? He should really get a room to enjoy those feet kissings/lickings, its not good to do it inside bohora temple before the public, kids get spoilt you know!!

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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby seeker110 on Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:14 am

See all the Sabaks have interfered with the education.All the Abdes now think cancer causes cell phones.Br. pro needs phook nu pani from the man of ill heath.

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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby Al Zulfiqar on Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:18 pm

seeker110 wrote:
Br. pro needs phook nu pani from the man of ill heath.



seeker, that was not very nice, a very low blow below the belt. syedna is an old man touching 100. it does not suit you to make fun of his ill-health, which is a result of natural causes.

we may criticise his actions from the past, but please do not ridicule him for his frailty and weakness.

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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby seeker110 on Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:46 pm

The concept of Dai would be Allama Iqbal,sir syed. Imam Hussain, Moula Ali.and Prophet Mohammed.Look what we have.Old age does not wipe the sin, pain and burden upon innocent Bohras.I just cannot say anything good about this person.

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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby profastian on Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:25 am

seeker110 wrote:The concept of Dai would be Allama Iqbal,sir syed. Imam Hussain, Moula Ali.and Prophet Mohammed.Look what we have.Old age does not wipe the sin, pain and burden upon innocent Bohras.I just cannot say anything good about this person.

Allama Iqbal and Imam Hussain in one phrase. One a known habitual drunk and the other who struggled against a drunkard. What a ignorant git.
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby mustafanalwalla on Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:27 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
mustafanalwalla wrote:actually Anajmi, i chose to edit my post because i dont believe in kicking a man when he is down


mn, the only reason you chose to edit your post and remove text, but insert stupid smiley faces, is that everytime you open your mouth to utter words, you end up with your foot in it instead!

and the fact that you smile with prof's post betrays the fact that you share the same mental sickness that he has.

so do you both get together and conjure up these strong orgasmic urges for syedna together??



and you and all your lovers on this site can get into a room and bang each other too.

Enjoy yourself with all the mutual admiration and adulation you have for each other
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby mustafanalwalla on Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:31 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
mustafanalwalla wrote:actually Anajmi, i chose to edit my post because i dont believe in kicking a man when he is down


mn, the only reason you chose to edit your post and remove text, but insert stupid smiley faces, is that everytime you open your mouth to utter words, you end up with your foot in it instead!

and the fact that you smile with prof's post betrays the fact that you share the same mental sickness that he has.

so do you both get together and conjure up these strong orgasmic urges for syedna together??



What an Effing hypocrite you are AZ.
When people put smileys and LIKES against your posts its "Look at me, im so cool" but for others, its mental sickness???
Effing hypocrite :roll:
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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby Al Zulfiqar on Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:14 pm

mustafanalwalla wrote:What an Effing hypocrite you are AZ. When people put smileys and LIKES against your posts its "Look at me, im so cool" but for others, its mental sickness??? Effing hypocrite :roll:


mn, how's the head banging going on? enjoying it? the bleeding, the pain, the sado-masochistic pleasure of getting whipped into a frenzy?

now that you have no feet to stand on and have run out of all options, like a typical abde you resort to cursing and abuse in code language, just like syedna and his hired lackeys say laanats on the "first 3". no guts to enunciate the actual words, or afraid of getting royally kicked on yr shrivelled backside, like syedna was forced to do on public TV?

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Re: New Rules..!!

Unread postby mustafanalwalla on Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:34 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
mustafanalwalla wrote:What an Effing hypocrite you are AZ. When people put smileys and LIKES against your posts its "Look at me, im so cool" but for others, its mental sickness??? Effing hypocrite :roll:


mn, how's the head banging going on? enjoying it? the bleeding, the pain, the sado-masochistic pleasure of getting whipped into a frenzy?

now that you have no feet to stand on and have run out of all options, like a typical abde you resort to cursing and abuse in code language, just like syedna and his hired lackeys say laanats on the "first 3". no guts to enunciate the actual words, or afraid of getting royally kicked on yr shrivelled backside, like syedna was forced to do on public TV?


And give you ammo to then go running to admin, crying about how i abused you and them tom-tom it from the highest rooftops how bad we are???

Sorry, but the emphasis was on the HYPOCRITE, not the EFFING
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