Seats on Sale in Muharram

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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby mustafanalwalla on Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:29 am

anajmi wrote:Actually, you didn't answer the question. You said

i for one, would rather not waste my time.


I would appreciate it if you can post it again.



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I have mentioned it 3 times, all in the same thread
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby anajmi on Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:06 pm

So your answer is this

Also, Muffadal Maula never compared our Dai to Hussain, the context is looking at Him, one is reminded of Imam Hussain. Muffadal Maula is also talking about a man whom we regard as our Father.


This is not an answer, but lack thereof. This is mumbo jumbo that people come up with when they have no answers. What does "the context is looking at him" mean? Did we think the context was not looking at him but hearing him? or tasting him? Regarding someone as your father also doesn't mean anything. Anyone older than you that you respect falls into that category, unless there are only two people on earth that you respect and the other one is your father.
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby Al Zulfiqar on Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:31 am

Also, Muffadal Maula never compared our Dai to Hussain, the context is looking at Him, one is reminded of Imam Hussain.


mn,

if i say that LOOKING at laloo prasad yadav REMINDS me of a buffalo, whom am i COMPARING him to?

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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby JC on Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:49 am

Bravo Bro Al-Zulfikar .......!!!!!!

Muffadal even does not how to do 'bayan' and he is heir-apparent??!! Saw how he behaved and was shrugged off on Youm-e-Ashura Mubaraka ........... dah, what a bunch of crooks ........

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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby Al Zulfiqar on Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:15 pm

if i say that looking at the new mola, the mansoos, reminds me of imam-ut-taiyeb, would i be wrong?

i am not comparing the mansoos mola with the 3 year old imam, or saying that the mansoos is immature or does not have enough practice in how to be a skilful vaezeen or that he is fearful and playful like a 3 year old kid, or that he is about to go into hiding for a long, long time, i am just saying that in this context he reminds me of imam taiyyeb..

look, please, i never compared the mansoos mola to the 3 year old imam. for the final time, i am only reminded of the imam as the mansoos 'resembles' imam taiyyeb.

thats all folks.
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby Admin on Mon May 28, 2012 10:04 am

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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby humanbeing on Tue May 29, 2012 12:58 am

Above is a screenshot of the hoob details required to be submitted for payment in lieu of seats for Muharram.
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Moharram is approaching and activities has started in respective Jamats in Kuwait to allot seats to audience for Waaez ! All the mumins are registered with respective area Jamats and have to confirm their attendance (who wishes to..) on a website designed for this purpose.

The idea behind this Nizaam (as announced) is for crowd management, Jaman preparation and general statistics. The main community hall (Hussainya) is very big and spacious and can accommodate a large number crowd comfortably. However as per Nizaam, registration has to be be done for all centres respectively.

Gents are not required to register for seat allotment ! They are majority audience !! Women are instructed to register on the website for allotment of seats, for which they have to pledge a Hoob amount and accordingly seats will be alloted. The rates of Hoobs are determined as per the sequence of rows in seating arrangement. First 3 Rows ( A B and C) being the most expensive ones and then rates gradually decreasing for back bencher rows.
Please find attached with this mail, a snap shot of the website (http://www.kuwaitjamaat.com) asking for Hoob for seat allotment.
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby Muslim First on Tue May 29, 2012 8:26 am

The rates of Hoobs are determined as per the sequence of rows in seating arrangement. First 3 Rows ( A B and C) being the most expensive ones and then rates gradually decreasing for back bencher rows.


Wow
what a religion!!!
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby ANA BOHRI on Wed May 30, 2012 6:48 am

humanbeing wrote:Above is a screenshot of the hoob details required to be submitted for payment in lieu of seats for Muharram.
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Moharram is approaching and activities has started in respective Jamats in Kuwait to allot seats to audience for Waaez ! All the mumins are registered with respective area Jamats and have to confirm their attendance (who wishes to..) on a website designed for this purpose.

The idea behind this Nizaam (as announced) is for crowd management, Jaman preparation and general statistics. The main community hall (Hussainya) is very big and spacious and can accommodate a large number crowd comfortably. However as per Nizaam, registration has to be be done for all centres respectively.

Gents are not required to register for seat allotment ! They are majority audience !! Women are instructed to register on the website for allotment of seats, for which they have to pledge a Hoob amount and accordingly seats will be alloted. The rates of Hoobs are determined as per the sequence of rows in seating arrangement. First 3 Rows ( A B and C) being the most expensive ones and then rates gradually decreasing for back bencher rows.
Please find attached with this mail, a snap shot of the website (http://www.kuwaitjamaat.com) asking for Hoob for seat allotment.


It reminds me of my olden days when I used to go to watch CIRCUS and I used to sit on the last bench wondering when would i get a chance to sit in the front row.

Many abde females prefer to give fakhera hoob only because if they don't pay then they will end up sitting in the last row with sort of "koka pisaa wala logo".........This is what our community has taught us

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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby humanbeing on Wed May 30, 2012 7:02 am

ANA BOHRI wrote:Many abde females prefer to give fakhera hoob only because if they don't pay then they will end up sitting in the last row with sort of "koka pisaa wala logo".........This is what our community has taught us

Hi AB
Very true, so you are also aware of the Koka Pisa discrimination in wagaad region !
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby ANA BOHRI on Wed May 30, 2012 9:26 am

humanbeing wrote:
ANA BOHRI wrote:Many abde females prefer to give fakhera hoob only because if they don't pay then they will end up sitting in the last row with sort of "koka pisaa wala logo".........This is what our community has taught us

Hi AB
Very true, so you are also aware of the Koka Pisa discrimination in wagaad region !


Yes bro very much aware of this discrimination........
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby mustafanalwalla on Wed May 30, 2012 9:38 am

humanbeing wrote:
ANA BOHRI wrote:Many abde females prefer to give fakhera hoob only because if they don't pay then they will end up sitting in the last row with sort of "koka pisaa wala logo".........This is what our community has taught us

Hi AB
Very true, so you are also aware of the Koka Pisa discrimination in wagaad region !




"koka pisaa wala logo" ????
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby Hussaini on Wed May 30, 2012 10:34 am

ANA BOHRI wrote:
humanbeing wrote:
ANA BOHRI wrote:Many abde females prefer to give fakhera hoob only because if they don't pay then they will end up sitting in the last row with sort of "koka pisaa wala logo".........This is what our community has taught us

Hi AB
Very true, so you are also aware of the Koka Pisa discrimination in wagaad region !


Yes bro very much aware of this discrimination........

are u from koka pissa? :mrgreen:
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby mustafanalwalla on Wed May 30, 2012 10:43 am

what is koka pissa?

and who are koka pissa wala log?
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby humanbeing on Thu May 31, 2012 3:21 am

Hussaini Bhai (Thakur Saab)
Please enlighten our members what does Koka Pissa mean.
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby Hussaini on Thu May 31, 2012 3:36 am

humanbeing wrote:Hussaini Bhai (Thakur Saab)
Please enlighten our members what does Koka Pissa mean.

you shud know more then me, kuwait if full of koka pissa naa logo isnt it?
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby humanbeing on Thu May 31, 2012 4:05 am

Hussaini wrote:you shud know more then me, kuwait if full of koka pissa naa logo isnt it?


You asked me a question ? so you shall know what you are asking ? Let me know your definition and I will share mine.
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby Hussaini on Thu May 31, 2012 4:37 am

mustafanalwalla wrote:what is koka pissa?

and who are koka pissa wala log?

koka pissa is a small village near Ahmedabad, and all bohra momeenin living there are basically farmers, recently most youngsters have chosen to leave koka pissa and migrate to gulf and other cities of India.

I know about koka pissa coz I have been there for zyarat.
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby ANA BOHRI on Thu May 31, 2012 5:14 am

Hi AB
Very true, so you are also aware of the Koka Pisa discrimination in wagaad region ![/quote]

Yes bro very much aware of this discrimination........[/quote]
are u from koka pissa? :mrgreen:[/quote]

Husaini Bhai

Well I am not from Koka Pisa but do you think it is a shame if you are from Koka pisa ?

Our community teaches us to discriminate between poor and rich by making the poor sit on the last row for not able to pay enough hoob even though they come early.

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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby humanbeing on Thu May 31, 2012 5:16 am

Hi Hussaini

Well said, something similar. Now I will share what I have heard about Koka-Pissa logo.

In wagad region towns such as Sagwara, Banswara, Partapur, Dungarpur, Galiyakot etc. bohras of these towns consider bohras from small near by villages as inferior / lower class etc etc. Mock them as Koka Pissa log. In masjids they are latenly advised / accustomed to line up at back rows, as first rows are for residents of the towns, in that also, very first rows are to be filled by sheikhs, title holders and other influential personalities of the town. Silly minded Boys from elite towns don’t prefer to marry girls in Koka Pissa family as they are joked in social circles. Usually this indifferent attitude arises out of weak economical condition of families from small villages.

Hussaini wrote:are u from koka pissa? :mrgreen:

Hussaini Bhai (Thakur saab)

I may be wrong in guessing your intention of the question. But do you support such mentality of waagad towns ?
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby Muslim First on Thu May 31, 2012 8:55 am

Our community teaches us to discriminate between poor and rich by making the poor sit on the last row for not able to pay enough hoob even though they come early.


What a religion!
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby Hussaini on Thu May 31, 2012 9:25 am

ANA BOHRA

I am really sorry for you, if this is what you have learn from this great community and religion :wink:

naseeb apna apna :mrgreen:
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby bohraji on Thu May 31, 2012 9:51 am

Dear Hussaini Bhai,
Salaam Alaikum.
Is it not the bitter truth?
No matter how early you come to the masjid ,you will not be allowed to sit in the places reserved for the shaikhs.O.K I agree that the majlis seating is OK ,that the Marshia Khwaan and the jamaat members sit to make a majlis,it brings decorum and respect .But atleats let the namazi saff be on a first come basis.
But a lot of discrimination exists in all aspects of our community lives.Yemeni Bohras ,Koka Pissa wala's etc are treated differently .The Surtis's like to marry within the cities .The Rajasthani's do not prefer Nagri partners.Etc .etc.
Forget all this, most bhaisahebs will not allow you to kiss their hand,They will allow you to do tasleem,take the salaam money and quickly pull the hand !
Atleast be real and face the true facts!
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby Hussaini on Thu May 31, 2012 10:41 am

bohraji wrote:Dear Hussaini Bhai,
Salaam Alaikum.
Is it not the bitter truth?
No matter how early you come to the masjid ,you will not be allowed to sit in the places reserved for the shaikhs.O.K I agree that the majlis seating is OK ,that the Marshia Khwaan and the jamaat members sit to make a majlis,it brings decorum and respect .But atleats let the namazi saff be on a first come basis.
But a lot of discrimination exists in all aspects of our community lives.Yemeni Bohras ,Koka Pissa wala's etc are treated differently .The Surtis's like to marry within the cities .The Rajasthani's do not prefer Nagri partners.Etc .etc.(thats all people personal view no one can change it, unless and untill they learn it by them self)
Forget all this, most bhaisahebs will not allow you to kiss their hand,They will allow you to do tasleem,take the salaam money and quickly pull the hand !(why dont u ask them?) :mrgreen:
Atleast be real and face the true facts!
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Re: Seats on Sale in Muharram

Unread postby bohraji on Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:06 am

Hussaini wrote:
bohraji wrote:Dear Hussaini Bhai,
Salaam Alaikum.
Is it not the bitter truth?
No matter how early you come to the masjid ,you will not be allowed to sit in the places reserved for the shaikhs.O.K I agree that the majlis seating is OK ,that the Marshia Khwaan and the jamaat members sit to make a majlis,it brings decorum and respect .But atleats let the namazi saff be on a first come basis.
But a lot of discrimination exists in all aspects of our community lives.Yemeni Bohras ,Koka Pissa wala's etc are treated differently .The Surtis's like to marry within the cities .The Rajasthani's do not prefer Nagri partners.Etc .etc.(thats all people personal view no one can change it, unless and untill they learn it by them self)
Forget all this, most bhaisahebs will not allow you to kiss their hand,They will allow you to do tasleem,take the salaam money and quickly pull the hand !(why dont u ask them?) :mrgreen:
Atleast be real and face the true facts!


Dear Hussaini Bhai,
Why havd you left the main question unaanswered.
Why such discrimination in the saff,Why cant a mumin pray in the spaces reserved for the shaikhs even if he is there on time,much before the shaikhs? Why this blatant iolation of humanrights in the place of Worship?
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