Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

[SBM]

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Did he convert to DB yet or still practicing Hinduism?

[Conscíous]

When someone starts questioning, who he was in his previous birth can doubtfully believe in the oneness of Almighty Allah (swt) ..
This man has always been a dawoodi hindu bohra but wasn't aware of it.. but all thanks to the magic shawl, he found his lost God again

[Al Zulfiqar]

for every 1 mojiza posted about syedna, we can post 1000 of the sai baba and over 10,000 of nirmal baba, who appears every morning on sony tv at 9 am in the programme 'nirmal baba's third eye'...

we can also throw in a few lakh mojizas of shirdi's sai baba and of bhagwan venkatesh at tiruvananthapuram.
hey, now that i am on a roll, what about the bhagwan at siddhivinyak mandir in mumbai or the miracles of taking a dip in the holy pond at golden temple in amritsar? lest i forget, we must include mojizas of haji ali and haji malang, ajmer sharif's khwaja gariban nawaz, hazrat nizamuddin chisti, ... hang on, now where have we reached with the grand total?

heck, i forgot mother teresa, the grotto at lourdes, the late pope john paul... my head is spinning. can someone please get me some phukelu paani?

[humanbeing]

Hey humanbeing,
To tell you the truth, I got a little lost reading your post.. I got the part about my posts are provocative and I won't deny it..Not everyone is gifted like you, plus I have to translate from the language I think in, and translate that into english, you see And I'm not good at sugarcoating .. And can you please explain the rest of your post, so that I don't misunderstand and maybe reply you back..

Hi Boom
I have mentioned my POV to similar question raised by AZ in Bohra and Reform section / Addressing Abde concern thread. You may refer to the post.

What m I gifted with ??

and have I sugar coated anything ?

[Conscíous]

Hey humanbeing,

I have mentioned my POV to similar question raised by AZ in Bohra and Reform section / Addressing Abde concern thread. You may refer to the post.

okey

What m I gifted with ??

Your vocabulary

and have I sugar coated anything ?

hehe.. What I meant was my english grammar isn't good

[Conscíous]

He can fix even a possessed machine

In 1984, I was stationed by the Thapar Group in Sidorja (Indonesia) as the finance man to oversee their paper manufacturing assets in that country. Around that time, Huzurala was passing through the region and I casually mentioned this coincidence to Mr Makkar, our general manager. Suddenly he straightened and asked: “Apne mill ki machines pe kisine jadoo-tona kar diya hai. Kya aapke guruji apne machines ko theek kar sakte hai?”

It must have been the conviction in my voice; even though Mr Makkar was scheduled to leave for Germany to negotiate the purchase of another round of machines, he delegated the exercise to invite Huzurala for a plant visit to his wife. I squirmed; Mr and Ms Makkar probably thought that it was simple enough to ask a guruji to casually come to the factory and ‘cleanse’ its spirit; I knew this would be virtually impossible given Huzurala’s schedule, the pressure of the local jamaat to utilize every minute of his stay in their city and my relative anonymity within that jamaat. I kept my mouth shut after that. But my luck ran out; the local newspaper carried a report on Huzurala’s arrival and thereafter, Ms Makkar called to ‘instruct’ me to get Huzurala to the plant. Instruct!

I was stuck. I resolved to seek help from a certain Muzaffarbhai who belonged to the local jamaat. Since he had been allocated a room at the Hotel Elmi for effective ikraam and intezaam (where Huzurala was also staying), I called him. The reception connected me. I heard the phone lift and a voice at the other end answer: “Hu Burhanuddin waat kari rahyo chhu!”

The first second I was confused. And then it struck me. God!

I stuttered. I stammered. In a breathless sentence – probably the fastest I have ever delivered - I told Huzurala about the ‘possessed’ machine. I told him about Mr Makkar. I told him about Ms Makkar. I told him about their faith in his ability. Then silence. Then Huzurala replied slowly: “Tamey Abbasbhai ne olkho chho? Aajey ehni ziaafat chhey. Eh bairo ne saat waagey layi aavjo!”

I floated back to my office.

That evening we rolled out the company’s Mercedes, drove across 8 kms and reached at 7.05 pm. As I entered the doorway looking for Abbasbhai with the introduction that Huzurala had asked me to be present, I encountered something unusual; I noticed a number of people saying hurriedly ‘Husainibhai ne bolaavo!’ and ‘Yahaan Husainibhai kaun chhey?” Huzurala had left word!

When we went in, Ms Makkar thought I would swing my magic and Huzurala would immediately say yes. I brought her down to earth; I said in all probability, I would be ineffective in doing anything but if she tendered the request and stuck to it, there could still be some hope. And sure enough, Huzurala rightfully indicated an acute paucity of time – he was in Surabaya for only two days. But now that Ms Makkar had seen the presence value that this guruji possessed, it was going to take a giant to budge her from her request. Ms Makkar pleaded with her hands folded, she touched Huzurala’s feet and then when nothing worked, bent and caught hold of Huzurala’s knees without letting them go. Ekdum ari gayi.

Finally, Huzurala consented. He would visit our factory after the ziyafat en route to Elmi Hotel. And so it happened: Huzurala arrived at the paper factory, the production manager who had no faith in godmen (naastik) took one look at Huzurala and pronounced ‘farishta’, Huzurala was led to the ‘possessed’ machine, recited a dua and then told me “Kaaley airport aavi ne taavaaz lejo aney machine na chaar corner par mukjo; kaaley 1.52-ey Imam Husain na niyaaz no halwo banaavjo and worker-o ney jamaarjo!”

I escorted Huzurala back to the hotel. He told me: “Aa company ne na mukjo!”

The next day, I received the taveez at the airport, it was placed just where I had been instructed and gradually, the large paper machine turned less temperamental. As machine expenditure declined and production increased, it started generating profits for the unit and company. Mr Makkar returned and was taken ill, dictated a letter for shifaa to Huzurala in India, was asked to do sadaqa and thereafter improved. Word reached LM Thapar, our chairman in India, and he is reported to have said, “Mujhe bhi ek taveez mangva do!”

And to think that none of these momentous things would have happened had it not been for an incompetent receptionist at Elmi Hotel who unthinkingly transferred a call for Muzaffarbhai to Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb!

http://bohranet.com/part_8%3A_he_can_fi ... ed_machine

[seeker110]

Life is too short,dont choose to be a slave.

[ghulam muhammed]

Kaaley airport aavi ne taavaaz lejo aney machine na chaar corner par mukjo

It would be interesting to know as to which taaviz were put in the 4 corners of mazun's house by which the mazun lost all his intelligence and meekly surrendered to the zaadas without any resistance.

[Conscíous]

Haha ^^

My next experiment will be with the "taaviz", if this kissing the picture of our dai (tus) right before going to sleep and having his picture over my bed doesn't help

[SBM]

been for an incompetent receptionist at Elmi Hotel who unthinkingly transferred a call for Muzaffarbhai to Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb!

That incompetent receptionist had ILHAM to connect him
BTW Did Mr. Makkar and his wife Mrs. Makkar converted to abde DB or still practicing Hinduism?

[seeker110]

Any wajebat in Hinduism.

[profastian]

Kaaley airport aavi ne taavaaz lejo aney machine na chaar corner par mukjo

It would be interesting to know as to which taaviz were put in the 4 corners of mazun's house by which the mazun lost all his intelligence and meekly surrendered to the zaadas without any resistance.

Category 5

[mustafanalwalla]

hb,
show me where i have used vulgarity and abused or insulted the syedna in this particular instance that you are getting so upset??

i merely warned boom and apprised him of what his actions would interpret in a western society. is that something you and abdes cannot tolerate?

age and position has got nothing to do with that comment, one's proclivities are immaterial to them. the same abdes rail against progressives in the most depraved terms in language that would make even a street urchin blush.

as for mn,

i have already told you, your comments, opinions and views do not matter to me. you are an idiot and will remain so. whether you contribute anything or not, is of no susbtance and value. please do not bring up sentimental claptrap of respect et al.

when a slave like you has no self-respect, does it matter what respect he gives others?

yeah, i realsied the same of you, that you are a dic*head too, whose opinions, comments and views arent even worth the toilet paper i use to wipe my ass too

[mustafanalwalla]

Yo Mustafa,,,
I've raised the issue about Yemen in this thread and also started a thread " do you dare to be honest" where no one has answered Not everyone or every thread is to ridicule you people, every time.. I don't know who said that " You have missed out the bigger picture" and I really don't want to get into that.. I have enough in my hands for now and I've got to stop this side tracking/ hijacking my thread..

I'm only interested in this thread is Do you believe our Dai (tus) is omniscient??

Hey Boom, it was AZ who did it, because he DID NOT have an answer to my question.

As for your question, my answer is no. He is our Dai, our father, our spiritual leader, but no, He is not omniscent

[like_minded]

As for your question, my answer is no. He is our Dai, our father, our spiritual leader, but no, He is not omniscent

Mustafa

I want to know on what basis do you call him "our spiritual leader" I want an honest answer from you.

Forget about what is being hammered day in and day out in waez etc, I want you to think independently with a clear mind and answer my question. How do you define a spiritual person/leader.

[mustafanalwalla]

As for your question, my answer is no. He is our Dai, our father, our spiritual leader, but no, He is not omniscent

Mustafa

I want to know on what basis do you call him "our spiritual leader" I want an honest answer from you.

Forget about what is being hammered day in and day out in waez etc, I want you to think independently with a clear mind and answer my question. How do you define a spiritual person/leader.

Hi Like _Minded, if its ok, i would prefer to not get into a discussion with this for 3 reasons

1. it will only debase itself into another mind-numbing excersise
2. my definition of spiritual leader is purely my opinion
3. there are other people who will be able to provide this answer better than me.

[like_minded]

As for your question, my answer is no. He is our Dai, our father, our spiritual leader, but no, He is not omniscent

Mustafa

I want to know on what basis do you call him "our spiritual leader" I want an honest answer from you.

Forget about what is being hammered day in and day out in waez etc, I want you to think independently with a clear mind and answer my question. How do you define a spiritual person/leader.

Hi Like _Minded, if its ok, i would prefer to not get into a discussion with this for 3 reasons

1. it will only debase itself into another mind-numbing excersise
2. my definition of spiritual leader is purely my opinion
3. there are other people who will be able to provide this answer better than me.

Mustafa

I want your answer, forget about others.

I am confident that you are not a blind follower of Syedna like the others on this forum.

[mustafanalwalla]

As for your question, my answer is no. He is our Dai, our father, our spiritual leader, but no, He is not omniscent

Mustafa

I want to know on what basis do you call him "our spiritual leader" I want an honest answer from you.

Forget about what is being hammered day in and day out in waez etc, I want you to think independently with a clear mind and answer my question. How do you define a spiritual person/leader.

Hi Like _Minded, if its ok, i would prefer to not get into a discussion with this for 3 reasons

1. it will only debase itself into another mind-numbing excersise
2. my definition of spiritual leader is purely my opinion
3. there are other people who will be able to provide this answer better than me.

Mustafa

I want your answer, forget about others.

I am confident that you are not a blind follower of Syedna like the others on this forum.

You are right, i am not a blind follower of our Dai and i do not believe He is omniscent either, but for me, he is more than a mortal. I have discovered my faith in Allah and Dai-Us-Zamaan after 34 long years today and i owe it to Him.

So really, please dont mind it but i do not wish to discuss it or His standing as a spiritual leader in my life, mind and heart

[SBM]

As for your question, my answer is no. He is our Dai, our father, our spiritual leader, but no, He is not omniscent

Mustafa

I want to know on what basis do you call him "our spiritual leader" I want an honest answer from you.

Forget about what is being hammered day in and day out in waez etc, I want you to think independently with a clear mind and answer my question. How do you define a spiritual person/leader.

Hi Like _Minded, if its ok, i would prefer to not get into a discussion with this for 3 reasons

1. it will only debase itself into another mind-numbing excersise
2. my definition of spiritual leader is purely my opinion
3. there are other people who will be able to provide this answer better than me.

Come on MN
Be a MAN and tell us what like minded asked you, YOU ASKED ME THE SAME ON THE OTHER THREAD (categorizing Proggies) AND I DID REPLY, COME ON BE A MAN ARE NOT YOU and follow your own advice and face the consequences as may be?

[Conscíous]

Hey Humanbeing,
Now you tell me, how are you going to spread awareness, when the person on the receiving end, is not willing to open up?? And the answer Mustafa is giving us below is a stander answer I receive whenever I've tried to interact with bohras..

So really, please dont mind it but i do not wish to discuss it or His standing as a spiritual leader in my life, mind and heart

It's because of this bond, people can't see the complete picture.. And when they are discontent, they'll start complaining and point fingers at everyone apart from their spiritual leader, who is the reason for their misery.. This bond and all the brainwashing we have been feed from childhood, makes it's unimaginable for us to think or suspect that this spiritual leader is a conman, criminal, hypocrite or a thieve.. And those who suspect him of all this, but still are in denial, are in the worst position because they are half awake but at the same time, they want to be part of this delusion and the feeling of being the special and chosen one, which is hammered into us..

[mustafanalwalla]

As for your question, my answer is no. He is our Dai, our father, our spiritual leader, but no, He is not omniscent

Mustafa

I want to know on what basis do you call him "our spiritual leader" I want an honest answer from you.

Forget about what is being hammered day in and day out in waez etc, I want you to think independently with a clear mind and answer my question. How do you define a spiritual person/leader.

Hi Like _Minded, if its ok, i would prefer to not get into a discussion with this for 3 reasons

1. it will only debase itself into another mind-numbing excersise
2. my definition of spiritual leader is purely my opinion
3. there are other people who will be able to provide this answer better than me.

Come on MN
Be a MAN and tell us what like minded asked you, YOU ASKED ME THE SAME ON THE OTHER THREAD (categorizing Proggies) AND I DID REPLY, COME ON BE A MAN ARE NOT YOU and follow your own advice and face the consequences as may be?

Ok, for me a spiritual leader is one who shows the right path, which is what i believe our Dai does. They why do i not follow Him blindly in all He says? that's because i feel that some of the farmaan issued are not issuued by Him, but by those at lower levels.

For me, a spiritual leader is one who shows us the nicer path of living. Then why....... lower levels

For me, a spiritual leader is one you can turn too in difficult time, and who can help you. Then why....... lower levels

Now, i can already see certain members jumping up and down, rubbing their hands with glee, salivating, working up ways and means to tear this post to shreds, but you know what, i dont really care.

Like i said earlier, this is purely my personal opinion. it has not been thrust upon me by anyone. infact i was never religous till a few months ago, when i re-discovered my Dai and my Allah. uptill then, i used to go through religion as just a motion to be followed

It kind of reminds me of this scene from 3 idiots where shraman joshi is being interviewed in a wheelchair and he says that he really learnt to stand on his own 2 feet only after breaking them, so he is not going to loose his new found identity and attitude.... same thing here.

[anajmi]

Ok, for me a spiritual leader is one who shows the right path, which is what i believe our Dai does.

So I don't understand. For a muslim, the right path is the Quran. You said that you are completely ignorant of what the Quran says, so how could the Dai have shown you the right path and still managed to keep you ignorant of the Quran?

that's because i feel that some of the farmaan issued are not issuued by Him, but by those at lower levels.

That is the beauty of a Dai less Islam. The Quran is the farmaan from the ultimate authority. There is no one at a lower level who can issue any farmaan that we can doubt as to where it came from.

Like i said earlier, this is purely my personal opinion. it has not been thrust upon me by anyone.

Unfortunately for you, you just lost your biggest excuse for some kind of wiggle room on the day of judgment.

It kind of reminds me of this scene from 3 idiots where shraman joshi is being interviewed in a wheelchair and he says that he really learnt to stand on his own 2 feet only after breaking them, so he is not going to loose his new found identity and attitude.... same thing here.

So the best thing the Dai gave to you was a couple of broken legs?

[mustafanalwalla]

^ Raver and Ranter # 1

[Conscíous]

HEy Mustafa,
As you might have noticed, I'm not forcing or ridiculing you, because you sound quite honesty about your feelings and I appreciate that you have opened up..

I'm a little confused because you are talking in a cloudy language, like the American Indians did a few century ago.. You are not a blind follower of our Dai and you don't believe He is omniscient but at the same time, you are saying he is more then mortal (Human).. What is he then??

Since you don't believe he is omniscient, than all the miracles/ Mojizas he preforms are just a big fraud and all those people revealing about those mojizas are just fanciful and full of falsity??

[profastian]

HEy Mustafa,
As you might have noticed, I'm not forcing or ridiculing you, because you sound quite honesty about your feelings and I appreciate that you have opened up..

I'm a little confused because you are talking in a cloudy language, like the American Indians did a few century ago.. You are not a blind follower of our Dai and you don't believe He is omniscient but at the same time, you are saying he is more then mortal (Human).. What is he then??

Since you don't believe he is omniscient, than all the miracles/ Mojizas he preforms are just a big fraud and all those people revealing about those mojizas are just fanciful and full of falsity??

Do you even know what omniscient means? What does mojizas and miracles have to do with omniscience?

[Conscíous]

I meant deity and thanks for pointing out my mistake

Mustafa,
Just look away from my last paragraph..

[Conscíous]

By Zenab Bai Quresh Ali Bag Wala

My son Abdeali was having hole in his heart, right from his birth. Firstly i took him to Ahmedabad, where doctor suggested that when the child will grow 4years old, then he will be operated. Then one day i saw Aqa Maula(TUS) in my dream and Maula told me that " taara farzand abdeali na heart maa hole nathi."

Then i made arzi in Hazarat Aaliya that "maaru farzand 4 saal nu thayi chuku che, Maula aap operation nee raza farmao." Then in answer i got "Do not do operation now." After getting such answer i drop the idea of operation. Then, when my son grew 8years old, the size of the hole increases, and there were swellings in the nerves. The situation was like "no-treatment" situation. Doctors also refused by saying that we will not do any operation because there is no gurantee that your son will be alright or alive after operation.

We again made arzi in Huzurala. Maula farmayu "maari dua na saathe raza che, operation karawa ma aawe." Then we took my son to Ahmedabad, where we araz one qurbani in darbar of Sayedna Qutubuddin Shaheed. Janab there came to know about our problem, so he gave us the piece of Gilaaf and told me that "operation na waqt Khake-shifa chakhaw jo ane Turbat dhoye lu pani pilaw jo, inshallah operation kamyaab thaase. Aa sagla amal na sabab ane Maula nee Dua na sabab 10hrs nu operation 5hrs maa thayi gayu.

Today abdeali is 11years old and totally fit and fine just because of the dua and raza of Aqa Maula(TUS).In end we pray to God that grant our Maula an eternal and healthy life....Aameen!!!!!!

http://udaipurjamaat.net/infoblog/mojiza2.php

[mustafanalwalla]

HEy Mustafa,
As you might have noticed, I'm not forcing or ridiculing you, because you sound quite honesty about your feelings and I appreciate that you have opened up..

I'm a little confused because you are talking in a cloudy language, like the American Indians did a few century ago.. You are not a blind follower of our Dai and you don't believe He is omniscient but at the same time, you are saying he is more then mortal (Human).. What is he then??

Since you don't believe he is omniscient, than all the miracles/ Mojizas he preforms are just a big fraud and all those people revealing about those mojizas are just fanciful and full of falsity??

No Boom, you havent, and i appreciate the fact that you appreciate my sentiments.

How can one put a price on, or define faith Boom? One cannot. This is exactly the same.

Boom, i have experienced a miracle, first hand, and i have narrated it too. Yes, it could have been a coinscidence too, but the fact is that for me, it is too much to put down to coinscidence.

And as much as anyone wants to critisize it and call me a fool, i just know this much, I called out to my Maula for help, and it came my way.

Im sorry if sound cloudy and cant be clearer, but somethings have to just be put down to faith. Trust me on that!

And you know what Boom, you just made me realise that devotion and faith cannot be defined in normal words sometimes

[Al Zulfiqar]

i have experienced a miracle, first hand,.... I called out to my Maula for help, and it came my way.

the toilet paper i use to wipe my ass too

perhaps this is another miracle you have experienced too, first hand, whereby instead of washing your ass as all devout bohras do, you use toilet paper???!!! astaghferullah!!!

there is no saying what faith will make an abde do, besides faith cannot be quantified, esp in nalwala's case.

[SBM]

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