Proggies approaching Alavi Jamat

[progticide]

Information coming in from reliable sources that a group of proggies from udaipur have recently paid visit to Baroda based Alavi Jamat. The group is small (80-90 people) but consist of some prominent & educated families who have become disenchanted with the prog movement and unable to reconcile with the DB Jamat, they have finally decided to join Alavis in the interest of their children's future and cultural identity.

Further details are not forthcoming as to their identity as they have been instructed to keep low and quiet for some more time.

[profastian]

Information coming in from reliable sources that a group of proggies from udaipur have recently paid visit to Baroda based Alavi Jamat. The group is small (80-90 people) but consist of some prominent & educated families who have become disenchanted with the prog movement and unable to reconcile with the DB Jamat, they have finally decided to join Alavis in the interest of their children's future and cultural identity.

Further details are not forthcoming as to their identity as they have been instructed to keep low and quiet for some more time.

Why are they unable to reconcile with DB Jamat?

[Human]

It is definitely hard or impossible to reconcile with the DB jamaat once you're in the bad books. But good on them for picking Alavis, I've heard that they're more civilised in all ways from DB's and are actually the closest sect as far as lifestyle goes. Also their aamils (or equivalent) volunteer to serve the community and lead the namaaz, do other ceremonies etc. while they have their own business for earning their bread. They do not seem to rely on forced salaams, etc.

[progticide]

Information just coming in suggest Alevis not keen on proggy inclusion. They dont find the current proggy way of life to be much common with theirs.

DB doors never closed to those who want to revert to the faith.

[anajmi]

If this is true that the Alavi bohras have rejected the Proggies then it shows the amount of ignorance that exists with the bohra community in general.

[Al Zulfiqar]

DB doors never closed to those who want to revert to the faith.

yes, DAB's welcome people who wish to do anti-islamic things like sajda to dai, reciting sajda tujhe wajib hai, calling their leader haqiqi kaaba, natiq e quran and ghaib na maalik, while he goes out murdering wild animals for pleasure, just after ashura no less....

[profastian]

DB doors never closed to those who want to revert to the faith.

yes, DAB's welcome people who wish to do anti-islamic things like sajda to dai, reciting sajda tujhe wajib hai, calling their leader haqiqi kaaba, natiq e quran and ghaib na maalik, while he goes out murdering wild animals for pleasure, just after ashura no less....

He is now trying to bring back some originality through color. The content is all stale.

[mustafanalwalla]

DB doors never closed to those who want to revert to the faith.

yes, DAB's welcome people who wish to do anti-islamic things like sajda to dai, reciting sajda tujhe wajib hai, calling their leader haqiqi kaaba, natiq e quran and ghaib na maalik, while he goes out murdering wild animals for pleasure, just after ashura no less....

He is now trying to bring back some originality through color. The content is all stale.

Ya man, i was wondering exactly the same thing.

for some reason, he just doesnt seem to get tired of repeating himself.

Yo AZ - I think its time for you to turn the record on the other side. lets see what else you got to say. im getting kinda tired listening to the same old rant

[profastian]

yes, DAB's welcome people who wish to do anti-islamic things like sajda to dai, reciting sajda tujhe wajib hai, calling their leader haqiqi kaaba, natiq e quran and ghaib na maalik, while he goes out murdering wild animals for pleasure, just after ashura no less....

He is now trying to bring back some originality through color. The content is all stale.

Ya man, i was wondering exactly the same thing.

for some reason, he just doesnt seem to get tired of repeating himself.

Yo AZ - I think its time for you to turn the record on the other side. lets see what else you got to say. im getting kinda tired listening to the same old rant

In fact I am so tired of his posts, that the same AZ whose posts I used to look forward to because of their sense of humour, now i skip through them without a glance (unless they are one or 2 liners)

[mustafanalwalla]

^^ Too True.

Buck up AZ.

[Al Zulfiqar]

mn and prof,

your comments are rich in sycophancy and outright shamelessness.

i will not tire attacking the crooks of saifee mahal as much as you dont get tired of defending them....

as for your opinions, i care a rats behind what you think. do you think i post here for hypocrites and crass low-lifes like you? you seem to forget that you have the privilege of posting on a site which gives you the freedom to post your mindless drivel and heckle others, while those crooks whom you defend do not provide you those freedoms.

[mustafanalwalla]

mn and prof,

your comments are rich in sycophancy and outright shamelessness.

i will not tire attacking the crooks of saifee mahal as much as you dont get tired of defending them....

as for your opinions, i care a rats behind what you think. do you think i post here for hypocrites and crass low-lifes like you? you seem to forget that you have the privilege of posting on a site which gives you the freedom to post your mindless drivel and heckle others, while those crooks whom you defend do not provide you those freedoms.

You forget AZ. I told you that the day that you stand outside Saifee Mahal on issues that are pertinent like crooked Aamils, Mutah and accountability, i will be standing right there with you, shoulder to shoulder, but i guess you chickened out cause you didnt have the balls too.

As for your opinions, ofcourse, we gives a dogs arse too about yours, but its just that your drivel was gettng staler than last weeks Dal Chawal Palidu in my fridge... wait a minute, that tastes better over time, yours are starting to taste funny now.

By the way, the 'crooks' that i defend are actually decent people who hear me out and accept my views, which is why i am duty-bound to defend them

[Al Zulfiqar]

You forget AZ. I told you that the day that you stand outside Saifee Mahal on issues that are pertinent like crooked Aamils, Mutah and accountability,.....

but i guess you chickened out "cause you didnt have the balls too".

nalwala,

2 things.

1. have you ever been to saifee mahal? you will find me there everyday 24/7 yelling and exposing the crooks inside. how? through this forum! yes, this forum is being monitored from INSIDE saifee mahal.!! the proof? the amount of incriminating material which gets removed post haste when exposed here to shame those crooks.
2. have i ever invited you to come check my balls? if not, then your statement "cause you didnt have the balls too". logically means, that for sure, YOU dont have any balls.!!!! not only did you lose them after 3 khatnas to prove your allegiance and gratitude to the syedna and his manhoos for miracles and other sundry acts done for you, but you have also lost your marbles and your upper story is now empty.

[Al Zulfiqar]

oh, and just to re-iterate, my balls are so big, i have assigned the task of hauling them after me, wherever i go, to a "royal shezaada"..

[profastian]

oh, and just to re-iterate, my balls are so big, i have assigned the task of hauling them after me, wherever i go, to a "royal shezaada"..

No wonder.. I had always wondered where your brain resided..

[mustafanalwalla]

You forget AZ. I told you that the day that you stand outside Saifee Mahal on issues that are pertinent like crooked Aamils, Mutah and accountability,.....

but i guess you chickened out "cause you didnt have the balls too".

nalwala,

2 things.

1. have you ever been to saifee mahal? you will find me there everyday 24/7 yelling and exposing the crooks inside. how? through this forum! yes, this forum is being monitored from INSIDE saifee mahal.!! the proof? the amount of incriminating material which gets removed post haste when exposed here to shame those crooks.
2. have i ever invited you to come check my balls? if not, then your statement "cause you didnt have the balls too". logically means, that for sure, YOU dont have any balls.!!!! not only did you lose them after 3 khatnas to prove your allegiance and gratitude to the syedna and his manhoos for miracles and other sundry acts done for you, but you have also lost your marbles and your upper story is now empty.

What a miserably cowardly cop out dude. stand outside safiee mahal and see who will be standing by you.... Me


Anne ghar mein chuha bhi sher hota hain. What's the use of hiding behind a veil? Be a man az, and I will be by your side. Send me a pm and I will even give you my number.

Till then... Just keep flapping your trap

[Al Zulfiqar]

nalwala,

since you are 'the man with no balls', why post your tel no and address only on pm's? let the whole world read it here on the forum and i guarantee you a mafsuhiyat with only 5553/= salam, that too from the manhoos muffy, with an additional sprinkling of rosewater on your toilet paper stuffed behind.

[mustafanalwalla]

nalwala,

since you are 'the man with no balls', why post your tel no and address only on pm's? let the whole world read it here on the forum and i guarantee you a mafsuhiyat with only 5553/= salam, that too from the manhoos muffy, with an additional sprinkling of rosewater on your toilet paper stuffed behind.

You are such a git AZ, and a lazy one too at that

First of all, when i said that you didnt have the balls too, i meant you alongwith the others of your reformist clans.

I have already proved the existence of my balls by standing up for one of yours when you decided to hibernate, maybe because you were afraid of getting your hands dirty

Secondly, do a little background reading. I have revealed 10 times more about myself than you, you little turd.

Now buzz of fly

[Muslim First]

by asad on Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:53 am

AZ/MN

can you please take your rantings against each other in PM. Its becoming quite pathetic in the first place to this read mudslinging contest

[mustafanalwalla]

by asad on Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:53 am

AZ/MN

can you please take your rantings against each other in PM. Its becoming quite pathetic in the first place to this read mudslinging contest

Point taken sir. Acknowledged and accepted.
This post was made before i agreed to Asad's orignal request on the "community kitchen" post

[Maqbool]

See this video Bohra Converted to Shia Isna Ashari - Part 1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWvM_BRY3gY

[Al Zulfiqar]

maqbool, see also the comment of a dawoodi abdebohra regressive about this convert and his beliefs.

there is no use posting such videos, a brainwashed abde will never be convinced.

[Maqbool]

maqbool, see also the comment of a dawoodi abdebohra regressive about this convert and his beliefs.

there is no use posting such videos, a brainwashed abde will never be convinced.

My intention to post this video here was not to convince the hard core DB but to realize them that they do not get any information on the pages of kothar sponsored web pages. and the result is half baked person in the video. I have only comment to this type of person is:

घभराके लोग केहतेहे कि मर जाऐगे,
गर मर के भी चेन न पडा तो कीधर जाऐगे!

We are born in dawoodi bohra faith by wish of God and if the corrupt leadership hijacks the faith and do against the religion it is not we to leave the bohraisum but they who are responsible.

[profastian]

maqbool, see also the comment of a dawoodi abdebohra regressive about this convert and his beliefs.

there is no use posting such videos, a brainwashed abde will never be convinced.

My intention to post this video here was not to convince the hard core DB but to realize them that they do not get any information on the pages of kothar sponsored web pages. and the result is half baked person in the video. I have only comment to this type of person is:

घभराके लोग केहतेहे कि मर जाऐगे,
गर मर के भी चेन न पडा तो कीधर जाऐगे!

We are born in dawoodi bohra faith by wish of God and if the corrupt leadership hijacks the faith and do against the religion it is not we to leave the bohraisum but they who are responsible.

The person in the video contradicts himself. He says that to get ilm in Dawoodi bohra you have to get raza and then he says that ilm is not available. Why did he not go and get raza for a sabak, which can be done very easily. In fact the kind of information he was seeking is available in Zahir sabaks, for which there is general raza(you do not have to go and get raza) and everyone can attend.

[revertbohra]

whats the website of this alavi sect?

[Al Zulfiqar]

to get ilm in Dawoodi bohra you have to get raza....

precisely why this fellow went and joined another sect where he did not have to jump through hoops and bureacracy to get ilm...

[aftabm]

What are these so-called-reliable-sources about Progressive approaching Alavi Jamaats. Any backups or just heard a rumour?
Why would they choose Alevi Jamaat? Why not the we-are-the-most-pure-dawoodi-bohras. DB Jamaat would any day accept any progressive joining thier camp.

[aftabm]

whats the website of this alavi sect?

www.alavibohra.org