Humsafar bhai & Reformist bhaiyon nu imtihaan

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Re: Humsafar bhai & Reformist bhaiyon nu imtihaan

Unread postby Hanif on Thu May 10, 2012 7:25 pm

Adam wrote:
which Fatimid Imam or Dai sent La'nat on Asahabas and Ithnasheri Imams?

Quran prays la'nat on Zalemeen
Imam Ali prayed La'nat on Mu'awiyah after every Qunoot[color=#800040]Imam Ali would not waste his time on Mu'awiyah. You are fed lies in your sabaks

History books like Uyoon and Sharh ul AKbar pray There are a lot of exaggerations in Shia books.

Note: La'nat is not sent on Ithnaasheri Imams, as far as I know.Please go to the very first post of Khatarnak54 on this subject.

You don't have to explain your beliefs, because we know you worship Dai as Imam and Khuda. My aunt thinks the Dai is Khuda.

Your aunt is wrong.
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That makes most of the Abdes wrong. That also makes Syedna Taher Saifuddin wrong because he claimed himself to be God on Earth in the Court.

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Re: Humsafar bhai & Reformist bhaiyon nu imtihaan

Unread postby Adam on Fri May 11, 2012 8:16 am

There are a lot of exaggerations in Shia books.

Uyun and SA are Fatimid Dawoodi Bohra sources.
You'd follow it if you were a Dawoodi Bohra (which you're not)

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Re: Humsafar bhai & Reformist bhaiyon nu imtihaan

Unread postby anajmi on Fri May 11, 2012 10:19 am

Then you should quote these books only in a gathering of abde idiots. Do not mention these sources outside because then you will be exposed as you have been over here.
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Re: Humsafar bhai & Reformist bhaiyon nu imtihaan

Unread postby Hanif on Sat May 12, 2012 6:16 pm

Adam wrote:
There are a lot of exaggerations in Shia books.

Uyun and SA are Fatimid Dawoodi Bohra sources.
You'd follow it if you were a Dawoodi Bohra (which you're not)


First of all Bohora's are Shias. Right? Second of all Uyun and SA are Fatimid Dawoodi Bohra sources. Not all Bohoras, including the Abdes have access to these books. Everytime an Amil wants to prove a point he says, "It is all in Uyun, or it is all in Daim. But Bohoras have no guts to ask the Amil to quote from the books or show the books. Whether I am a Dawoodi Bohora or not, does not mean Dawoodi Bohoras have to blindly accept everything the Amil says, or everything you say on this forum because you guys say it is in"Uyun or Daim" so trust us and accept it. That is not the way a leader convinces his congregation. He has to show proof unless his congregation is full of ignoramuses and accepts whatever is dished out. People who blindly follow this go on to become cultists or funtamentalists and extremists.

So don't tell us, it is my way or highway. I am not at all convinced by you. You have not given me any reason to believe you. On the other hand, Engineersaheb, Insafbhai, Porus and others have given me reasons to believe that there were dais who followed Fatimid teachings and made contribution to the Dawoodi bohora faith, without claiming to be super immortals. What you and the leadership have shown me is totally contrary to Fatimid beliefs and this is what the Progressives are against and not the Fatimid Dawat.

I told you before, if you want to prove your point please quote from your books, it is not sufficient to say, "it is in Uyun or it is in Daim."

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Re: Humsafar bhai & Reformist bhaiyon nu imtihaan

Unread postby Adam on Sun May 13, 2012 5:43 am

I told you before, if you want to prove your point please quote from your books, it is not sufficient to say, "it is in Uyun or it is in Daim."

And i've already told you, if you want to look it up.
Go to the great 5 Proggy Clerics + Engineer + S.Insaf + Anyone else and ask them to help you.
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Re: Humsafar bhai & Reformist bhaiyon nu imtihaan

Unread postby SBM on Sun May 13, 2012 6:34 am

Adam wrote:
I told you before, if you want to prove your point please quote from your books, it is not sufficient to say, "it is in Uyun or it is in Daim."

And i've already told you, if you want to look it up.
Go to the great 5 Proggy Clerics + Engineer + S.Insaf + Anyone else and ask them to help you.

Adam They did not quote those books you did it so once again faced with real and NOT CHILDISH questions you shoved it to some one else
DO NOT BE A COWARD JUST ANSWER IT
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