Requirements for Salvation?

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Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by Peace » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:55 pm

Can we list down what are main requirements to get the salvation on the judgment day?

First I am giving my opinion. It is according to the Quran, as Quran is the final guidance for the humanity.


Surah: 2 Al-Baqara Verse: 85
Translation: Sahih International


The month of Ramadhan [is that] in which was revealed the Qur'an, a guidance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion......................



Surah: 8 Al-Maaida Verse: 48
Translation: Sahih International


And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.




1. Belief in Monotheism (Allah is the only God and worthy of worship)
2. Belief in all the Prophets/ Messengers of Allah
3. Belief in the Books Torah, Injeel, Quran.
4. Good deeds
5. Prayers
6. Fast
7. Zakat
8. Hajj (if affordable)




If I forgot anything or you want to add anything and Quran is your criterion then please add in the list.



Although we should do these above things for the Love of Allah and to give thanks, not for the fear of Hell or greed for the Jannah (In my opinion thats the highest level of Imaan).



May Allah show us “Sirat-e-Mustaqeem” and may increase our level of Imaan. Ameen.

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by Muslim First » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:45 pm

Admin

Can you move this thred to Islam section?
so other can parcipate.
JAK

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:19 pm

^
Great suggestion Br MF

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by Peace » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:32 am

It looks like my list is complete. :wink:

Dawoodi Bohras & Shias are most welcome to give their input, as I started above thread for the productive debate.

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by Muslim First » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:01 am

These are beliefs of Mainstream Muslims.

Six belief and five pillars

(From ISLAM THE ALTERNATIVE By Murad Hoffman, Amana publications
Chapter Complete faith, Pages 11-12)


‘Muslim’ is someone who finds peace in submission to God specifically in accordance with Qur’an and the Prophet’s model behavior (Sunnah); this includes earlier revelations as much as they are authentic and valid.

Thus, for example, a Muslim follows the Ten Commandments of the Old Testament and commandment to love thy neighbor of the New Testament. For him, as for Jews and Christians who have maintained their belief, there are six articles of faith, which according to the Qur’an are basis of theological understanding of cosmic reality (Q 2:285, 4:136, 9:51):

• the existence of the God;
• the existence of other spiritual beings (“His angels”):
• the existence of divine revelation (“His books”);
• the sending of prophets (“His messengers);
• Final judgment/Life after death;
• Predestination (‘Fatalism”)

These beliefs have been precisely stated in Al-Imanul Mufassal, the faith in detail:

Amantu Billahi, Wa Malaikathi, wa Kutubih, wa Rusulihi, wal Yawmil Akhiri, wal Qadri, Khairihi wa Sharrahi minal Lahi Taala, Wal Bathi Badal Mawt.

That means:
I believe in Allah, in His Angels, in His Books, in His messengers, in Last day (Day of Judgment) and in the fact everything good or bad is decided by Allah, the Almighty, and in Life after death.

On the other hand, Islam prescribes code of conduct and worship which is specific to it alone, and which, together with profession of faith (Shahadah), comprises the so-called ‘five pillars’:

• Ritual prayers at fixed times, five times a day (salah)
• The annual payment of a capital tax (zakah)
• Fasting during the day throughout the month of Ramadan (swam)
• As far as possible, a pilgrimage to Makkah (hajj)

These pillars show that Islam is based on belief and deed, prayer and work; even spiritual activities such as prayers are linked to physical activities. This is clearly expressed in Surat al ‘Asr reveled in Makkah:

Surely man is in continuous loss, except those who believe and do good deeds and urge one another to act rightfully and urge one another to exercise patience. (Q 103-:1-3)

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by aliabbas_aa » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:58 am

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
وَالْعَصْرِ ◊ إِنَّ الْإِنْسَانَ لَفِي خُسْرٍ ◊ إِلَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالصَّبْرِ ◊

(103:1) By the time!

(103:2) Lo! Man is in a state of loss;

(103:3) save those who have faith and do righteous deeds, and counsel each other to hold on to truth and counsel each other to be steadfast.


Surah ASR lays 4 necessary condition for salavation for which an oath has been sworn by the Time to impress the point that man is in sheer loss and only those people are an exception from the loss who are characterized by these four conditions:

  • Faith (6 articles + 5 pillars)
  • Righteous deeds
  • Exhorting one another to Truth(dawah , call and guidance)
  • Exhorting one another to patience
if any one of the above conditions are not satisfied then there is no salvation for such a person except if ALLAH wills. Even if all conditions are satisfied still its ultimately upon the mercy of ALLAH swt to forgive or punish his slaves irrespective of his sins.

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by profastian » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:00 am

aliabbas_aa wrote:بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
وَالْعَصْرِ ◊ إِنَّ الْإِنْسَانَ لَفِي خُسْرٍ ◊ إِلَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالصَّبْرِ ◊

(103:1) By the time!

(103:2) Lo! Man is in a state of loss;

(103:3) save those who have faith and do righteous deeds, and counsel each other to hold on to truth and counsel each other to be steadfast.


Surah ASR lays 4 necessary condition for salavation for which an oath has been sworn by the Time to impress the point that man is in sheer loss and only those people are an exception from the loss who are characterized by these four conditions:

  • Faith (6 articles + 5 pillars)
  • Righteous deeds
  • Exhorting one another to Truth(dawah , call and guidance)
  • Exhorting one another to patience
if any one of the above conditions are not satisfied then there is no salvation for such a person except if ALLAH wills. Even if all conditions are satisfied still its ultimately upon the mercy of ALLAH swt to forgive or punish his slaves irrespective of his sins.
The wahabi god is so random. Mercy for whomever he chooses. No concept of Adal,

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by Peace » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:20 am

Dear Brother Profastian,

Please give your version of salvation and also what is the translation of Surah Al-Asr and below ayat according to you or from your source of guidance.

Surah 6 Verse:39
Translation: Sahih International

But those who deny Our verses are deaf and dumb within darknesses. Whomever Allah wills - He leaves astray; and whomever He wills - He puts him on a straight path.

May Allah show us Siraat-e-Mustaqeem and increase our level of Imaan. Ameen.

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:46 pm

Peace, this is not for you. Please ignore the need, if it arises, to tell me not to post. Thanks

Here is the abde translation of this verse.

But those who deny Syedna's verses are deaf and dumb within darknesses. Whomever Syedna wills - Syedna leaves astray; and whomever Syedna wills - Syedna puts him on a straight path.

May Syedna and Mufaddal show us Siraat-e-Mustaqeem and increase our level of Kadambosi. Ameen.

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by Peace » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:05 pm

Dear Anajmi,

Please, please, please do not derail the topic as usually by unnecessary posts. It will not give any fruitful or productive results. It will only be a time pass.

Fruitful Debate will only be done by hikmat/ respecting others beliefs/patience/ and accepting others POV if its right. By condemning/mocking/using abusive language will only waste everyone's time and the person whom you are debating will go in a defensive mode.

Hope you will understand.

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by aliabbas_aa » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:57 pm

profastian wrote:
aliabbas_aa wrote:بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
وَالْعَصْرِ ◊ إِنَّ الْإِنْسَانَ لَفِي خُسْرٍ ◊ إِلَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالصَّبْرِ ◊

(103:1) By the time!

(103:2) Lo! Man is in a state of loss;

(103:3) save those who have faith and do righteous deeds, and counsel each other to hold on to truth and counsel each other to be steadfast.


Surah ASR lays 4 necessary condition for salavation for which an oath has been sworn by the Time to impress the point that man is in sheer loss and only those people are an exception from the loss who are characterized by these four conditions:

  • Faith (6 articles + 5 pillars)
  • Righteous deeds
  • Exhorting one another to Truth(dawah , call and guidance)
  • Exhorting one another to patience
if any one of the above conditions are not satisfied then there is no salvation for such a person except if ALLAH wills. Even if all conditions are satisfied still its ultimately upon the mercy of ALLAH swt to forgive or punish his slaves irrespective of his sins.
The wahabi god is so random. Mercy for whomever he chooses. No concept of Adal,

The wahhabi's God is Allah swt who is Adil which is among the 99 names of Allah swt. His mercy prevails his wrath. His mercy is also a manifestation of his Adl which we cannot comprehend

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by profastian » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:54 am

If you kill a person(stranger), the wahabi God sends you to eternal hell.
If you perform mass genocide, the wahabi God sends you to eternal hell.
If you wrong an orphan or a widow, the wahabi God sends you to eternal hell.
If you are born a non muslim and the message of God never reached you, even then the Wahabi God sends you to eternal hell.
If you are a idol worshipper, but are exemplary moral and righteous person, the Wahabi God sends you to eternal hell.
If you perform homosexual acts, the wahabi God sends you to eternal hell.

Where is the adal and where is the mercy?

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by profastian » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:57 am

Peace wrote:Dear Brother Profastian,

Please give your version of salvation and also what is the translation of Surah Al-Asr and below ayat according to you or from your source of guidance.

Surah 6 Verse:39
Translation: Sahih International

But those who deny Our verses are deaf and dumb within darknesses. Whomever Allah wills - He leaves astray; and whomever He wills - He puts him on a straight path.

May Allah show us Siraat-e-Mustaqeem and increase our level of Imaan. Ameen.
So where is the adal? Does your God choose randomly whomever he wishes to guide and whomever he wishes to condemn? What use are righteous deeds then?

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:05 am

profastian wrote:If you kill a person(stranger), the wahabi God sends you to eternal hell.
If you perform mass genocide, the wahabi God sends you to eternal hell.
If you wrong an orphan or a widow, the wahabi God sends you to eternal hell.
If you are born a non muslim and the message of God never reached you, even then the Wahabi God sends you to eternal hell.
If you are a idol worshipper, but are exemplary moral and righteous person, the Wahabi God sends you to eternal hell.
If you perform homosexual acts, the wahabi God sends you to eternal hell.

Where is the adal and where is the mercy?
After you killed a person (stranger) did you seek mercy and ask for forgiveness and vouch never to commit this crime again? If you did, then the wahhabi God will forgive you. If you go to the Dai for forgiveness, you might have to take a fat envelope.
After you performed mass genocide, did you seek mercy and ask for forgiveness and vouch never to commit this crime again? If you did, then the wahhabi God will forgive you. If you go to the Dai for forgiveness, you might have to take a fat envelope.
After you wronged an orphan or a widow, did you seek mercy and ask for forgiveness and vouch never to commit this crime again? If you did, then the wahhabi God will forgive you. If you go to the Dai for forgiveness, you might have to take a fat envelope.
After you are born a non muslim and the message of God never reached you, then you need to approach the Dai with a fat envelope.
If you are a idol worshipper, but are exemplary moral and righteous person, the Wahabi God sends you to eternal hell. - Correct. The Quran is clear that your deeds are of no use without Imaan, but if you approach the Dai with a fat envelope, he will have his abdes kiss your feet.
If you perform homosexual acts, the wahabi God sends you to eternal hell, unless you repent and seek for forgiveness and vouch never to commit this sin again. Or you can go to the Dai with a fat envelope and hope he doesn't ask an abde to kiss your feet. :wink:

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by Peace » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:54 am

profastian wrote:
Peace wrote:Dear Brother Profastian,

Please give your version of salvation and also what is the translation of Surah Al-Asr and below ayat according to you or from your source of guidance. :?:

Surah 6 Verse:39
Translation: Sahih International

But those who deny Our verses are deaf and dumb within darknesses. Whomever Allah wills - He leaves astray; and whomever He wills - He puts him on a straight path.

May Allah show us Siraat-e-Mustaqeem and increase our level of Imaan. Ameen.
So where is the adal? Does your God choose randomly whomever he wishes to guide and whomever he wishes to condemn? What use are righteous deeds then?
Kindly answer the questions asked rather counter questioning.

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by Peace » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:49 am

Peace wrote:
profastian wrote: So where is the adal? Does your God choose randomly whomever he wishes to guide and whomever he wishes to condemn? What use are righteous deeds then?
Kindly answer the questions asked rather counter questioning.
Dear Profastian,

Waiting for your answer.

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Re: Requirements for Salvation?

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Unread post by profastian » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:12 am

Peace wrote:
Peace wrote: So where is the adal? Does your God choose randomly whomever he wishes to guide and whomever he wishes to condemn? What use are righteous deeds then?
Kindly answer the questions asked rather counter questioning.
Surah al asr is self explanatory and completely in syc with the concept of adl. Those whose deeds are righteous will benefit and others will suffer. About the Ayah in Sura -e-Anaam, i am really not sure. Taken out of context, it seems to say that God can guide or condemn any one who denies him. I will have to research it and ask around. But if the God that i believe in doles out mercies and condemnation at random and without any consideration to his deeds(il, amal and Iman), then I certainly do not believe in any such God.

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Unread post by Peace » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:45 am

Surah al asr is self explanatory and completely in syc with the concept of adl. Those whose deeds are righteous will benefit and others will suffer. About the Ayah in Sura -e-Anaam, i am really not sure. Taken out of context, it seems to say that God can guide or condemn any one who denies him. I will have to research it and ask around. But if the God that i believe in doles out mercies and condemnation at random and without any consideration to his deeds(il, amal and Iman), then I certainly do not believe in any such God.
Thanks for your answer.

First of all I cannot post whole surah in the post thats why I quoted the main verse.

I will wait for your research.