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Al Zulfiqar
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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:32 am

so looks like the maatamdaaran-e-hussain will have to be content to see live relays only, and not syedna in person since there is no masjid big enough to accomodate thousands at one go.

the bohra businesses around raudat tahera will reap the tremendous benefits of "SHAHADAT TOURISM". let us hope that imam hussain and his shohoda also take this opportunity to shop incognito and pick up some zari ni topis, sequinned ridhas and namazi jodis, etc after listening to the heart rending bayans of syedna on how they were slaughtered, embellished with fictional extra details of baar ragra, hussain's last minute guftagu with jibraeel, and conversations with his horse..

i personally wish to appeal to imam hussain, if i can recognise him while he and his family are shopping, to please make arrangements for the pleasure of his dai-e-hussain to be able to go and do some shikar of big game around the jungles of thane and panvel, as he normally does after ashura in africa. the infernal indian govt and petty politicians and PETA activists in india do not allow our poor and infirm syedna even this tiny bit of indulgence in his old age. they have no pity or love for him. let us - all forward minded reformists fervently appeal to imam hussain to use his magic and get permission from the moayiwah authorities, so that his dai can shoot and murder wild animals post ashura and lighten his grief at the tragic shahadat of hussain. this is now a grand established ashura tradition and every effort must be made to continue with this exercise which has become symbolic and synonymous with the observance of ashura and the cruel slaughter of hussain's family.

i wish all bohras going to bombay to partake of the superb chana bateta, tilli bateta, kababs, lamba pao, malai and saat handli ni tarkari etc. after all what will be ashura without sampling such foods?

badha abde syedna vohrajio ne ashura mubarak thai, imam hussain ane ena khandaan ni qatl na samachar ek bushra che, mubarak ane mohanna thai.

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:54 pm

Who says that only beauracracy is rampant with favours, corruption and red tapism ? Kothar is not far behind, just look at the PLUM POSTINGS given to zaadas for Mohurrum vayez. All the major cities having a cash rich sizeable bohra population are covered by these zaadas and the leftovers (small towns) having a middle and lower middle class bohra population have been given to the amils and mullas of the community, ignoring the fact that the amils are a professional lot who are well trained in jamea for the required job. This way the rich and greedy (zaadas) go on becoming more rich and greedy whereas the amils whose major source of income is amalat remain where they are for years together.....

With the Raza Mubarak of Huzurala TUS, the following Qasre-Ali sahebs are performing Khidmat Husainiyah, as under:

Shz Shabbir BS Nooruddin DM – Ahmedabad
Shz Malekul Ashtar BS Shujauddin DM – Kuwait
Shz Idris BS Badruddin DM – Dubai
Shz Qusai BS Vajihuddin DM – Bangalore
Janab Abizer BS Husamuddin – Fakhri Colony, Poona
Janab Khedir BS Zakiuddin – Secunderabad
Janab Taher BS Qutbuddin – Karbala
Janab Ibrahim BS Ezzuddin – London

http://akhbar.mumineen.org/2010/12/06/k ... yah-1432h/

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by Aarif » Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:45 pm

"SHAHADAT TOURISM".
Good one AZ..

One more important term apart from "SHAHADAT TOURISM" that can be added to our vocablury is "RAMDAN TERRORISM". Because in the holy month of Ramdan, the abdes are terrorized at gunpoint to pay all their hard earned money to their Shafiq Bawaa and his company in the name of wazebaat and other fictitous taxes...

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:36 pm

Aarif wrote:One more important term apart from "SHAHADAT TOURISM" that can be added to our vocablury is "RAMDAN TERRORISM".
Dont forget the :

QUAMI LIBAS COMPULSION.

ZIAFAT SHIVERISM,

MOHURRUM NIGHTMARISM (The yearly tamashas for respective jamats)

and the ABDE'S BONDAISM.

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by Baskin » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:36 am

Seems that you don't have anything left to talk on this post. That is why all the fun and entertainment talks have started. And by the way that is what you guys like to do.

After all, all your predictions on 'Ashara cannot be held in Mumbai or Saifee Masjid' has gone wrong.

Jaltey Raho! Duniya ma aney Akherat ma.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:51 pm

Bayan of Burhanuddin saab on the 2nd vayez....... In a nutshell, the message is Cry,cry,cry,cry, everything else i.e. the message of sabar, austerity, bravery of the shohadas, humbleness, love for the deen of Allah (swt), unity of ummah etc. is SECONDARY.

Excerpts from the vayez:-

Huzurala TUS arrived at Gurratul Masajid for waaz mubarak at 10.30 am. Huzurala TUS started the waaz with khitaab and riwayat of ziyad al-Aswad.

Huzurala TUS said, Mumin no jaan ye kabutri che ke noho kare che….Rowa si ankho woh cheez dekhi le je rowa baghair dekhatu nathi, are jannat dekhi le……man baka aw abka aw tabaka ala waladeyal Husain wajabat lagul jannah…. Mamlooko Ale Mohammed tamara par Rahman ni ayat tilawat karwa ne aayo chu… Tame mara saath roi lo..noho kari ne roi lo….. Huznun azaba jawanehiwa fuadee wa asala damee misla faizil wadee..

Ali je waqat ke Mumin (Miqdad) no aa haal dekhe che to etna roi che ke aapni darhi mubarak bhingai gai… Amiril Mumineen kon je na ek ansu na badal khuda jannat ma hazaro ghar banawe….

Fatema panjatan ni musibat par je aansu nikalta ye Mumineen ne bakhsi dida… Koi ne aa misal na maa mila che..

Ali Zainul Abideen ye hidayat no rasto wazeh keedo ye su ke aansu jaari kerwu.

Fatema shohoda na maqbara per jai ne rota ye su kaam ke hidayat no rasto wazeh kerwa waste ke qiyamat na din lag aawnar Mumineen Syedus Shohoda per rota.

Ye manzar Ali Zainul Abideen na samne che to aap itna sajda de che itna roi che ke ansu thamta nathi…
40 waras lagan ansu jari kare che to ye ansu ni barakat qiyamat na din lag jari thai ke nahi…. Ye ansu ni barakat duato na khamair ma kambai gai che….

Ansu jari kari ne paharo jewa moj ne phari nakhe ke ane dushmano ne halak kari de che…

Mumin na ansu ni zikr ma su aawe che …Mumin na ansu ma aa quwat hoi to dai na aansu ma kitni quwat hoi
baaz waqat moj itno uncho aawe de dekhnarao ne em thai ke steamer hamna dubi jaase magar ye to upar si nikli jai…
Duat na qubba banawa ma kitna moj aaya magar bani gaya…

Tamara dai na ansu dekhi ne ansu nikali lo ane aa ayat perho, iza tutla alaihim aayatur Rahmane kharru sujjadan wa bukiya. Ya Husain!
Mamlooko aale Mohammed tamne ghani mohabbat karu chu kem ke tame mara farzando cho….safina na rubban ne uaari denar thai kerjo…
Tame ane tamara farzand aawti nasal ne dawat per nisar kerjo!


http://akhbar.mumineen.org/2010/12/09/w ... am-mumbai/

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:02 pm

Huzurala TUS delivers 1st waaz on 2nd Moharram in Saifee Masjid Mumbai
Following are few points from Noorani waaz mubarak

Aaje adam a.s. ni zikr che - Tame kai mitti si paida thaya cho ke jene aag koi waqt asar nai kare.

Mola Ali s.a. ni ghani kuniyat hati magar aapne AbuTurab ni kuniyat ghani pasand hati, mei bhi mumineen no bawa chu, abu turab chu.

Turab ni manaa (meaning) mumin ane pani ni maana ilm che, Teen yaani turab (mitti) ane pani.

Tame Husain s.A. ni zikr karso, ah-vo-zari karso tou sonu (gold) bani jaso ane sona ne aag(fire) kem khai sake? hergiz nahi,hergiz
nahi, hergiz nai.Mumineen - aa dino ma tame ansu nikali ne Husain ne yaad kari ne, matam kari ne jannat ma pohchi jao.

Husain na dai aaje tamne 1400 varas baad khabar api rahya che ke tamari najat na vaste Husain Karbala ma shaheed thaya che.

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by incredible » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:26 am

4 Moharrum-ul-Haram, 1432 [ 10-12-2010 ] at Mumbai - India


Maula TUS arrived at 10:50 am at Saifee masjid in Mumbai to deliver the Third Waaz Mubarak of Ashara Mubaraka 1432. Todays Waaz Mubarak was relayed live worldwide to all Bilad Imaniya by Audio and Video.

Maula TUS ye be rakaat Tahiyatul Masjid ni namaz parhi te baad aap Waaz waaste padhaara. Mazoon e Dawat Syedi Khuzaima bs Qutbuddin saheb ne Maula TUS ye talaqqi nu sharaf bakhshu.

Aaj ni Waaz Mubarak ma Maula TUS ye Syedi Najam Khan Saheb ni zikr farmaavi. Aap na upar je imtehaan aaya, te aap ye sabr kidhu. Maula TUS Aayna(mirror) ni zikr farmaawta huwa farmaayu ke Syedi Najam Khan no aayno ghana Saaf hato. Aap ni taat ane ikhlaas ni zikr farmaavi.

Tej misal Maula TUS ye Laeen Jaffer ni fitnat ni zikr farmaavi. Maula TUS ye farmaayu ke Rutba waaste eh ye su su fitnato kidhi. Ehna Aayna ma safai nohti. Eh ye Dai ni raza bagair amal kidha.

Maula TUS te baad namaz waaste Qiyaam ma padhaara. Yaumul Jumoa ni namaz Syedi mazoon Saheb TUS ye parhaavi.

Maula TUS te baad Shahadat ni zikr waaste padhara. Purdard shahdat na baad Maula TUS Jumoa ni ziyarat waaste Raudat Tahera padhara ane wahan Mumineen ne deedar nu sharaf bakhshu.

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by aftabm » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:50 am

Dear Incredible,

These all updates on Syedana Saheb's waez are updated on posted on malumaat and other associated (raza granted websites). Please do not copy them here and waste the bandwidth.

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by Muslim First » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:08 am

Husain na dai aaje tamne 1400 varas baad khabar api rahya che ke tamari najat na vaste Husain Karbala ma shaheed thaya che.

Din't Lord JC also died in the Najad na vaste for Christians. Bohras needed lord Hussain to sacrifice himself.

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ashura in bombay

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Unread post by mumin » Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:47 pm

being a bohri I have heard the Dai's moharram bayan on almost all occasions. This years vaez is no vaez at all. Many a times the same page is repeated and there is no continuity in the vaez . If the page is missed out or two pages are turned at the same time , again the mumineen have to fill in the blanks. The same things are repeated over and over again. There is no coherency.
At this stage of syedna's life when the heart wants to do more but the body cannot, the dai should be at rest. It is the self interest groups that are pushing the dai for their interest.
The dai never states that he would be conducting ashura vaez at so and so place. It is his office staff that one has to deal with and they decide for him but they conveniently label it on the dai that dai ne raza che. The self interest group should realize; for how long will they be able to suck up money from the mumineen in the name of the dai. Sooner or later this tamasha has to have an end. Please have consideration for the Dai and let him enjoy his private life for what is left of it on this earth. Do not drag him into these tamasha's that you make up to fill your purses.
It is evident ,there are a lot of dirty filthy hands playing a lot of dirty filthy politics in the name of religion.

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:39 am

Two Lakhs in Town for 99-yr-old Bohra Head's Dec 8-16 Moharram Address
Syedna's sermon draws 32,000 at Saifee mosque
Times of India : Mumbai, December 14, 2010 by Mohammad Wajihuddin

MUMBAI: Few Muharram majlises (congregations) in the city are as crowded and disciplined as the ones held at the 90-year-old Saifee Masjid in the crowded Bhendi Bazaar. And when Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, the spiritual head of the Dawoodi Bohras, addresses Muharram mourners, the turnout is just overwhelming.
The 99-year-old Syedna (he will turn 100 in March next year), uses his discourse to preach peace and harmony. This year, he began his Muharram discourse on December 8 and will continue till December 16, the day of Ashura, or martyrdom of Imam Hussain, Prophet Mohammed's grandson. Other Muslims will observe Ashura on December 17; the Bohras mark it on December 16 because they follow the Egyptian calendar.
On Monday, the Syedna, frail but alert, was brought in a palanquin-like chair and seated on a throne before eagerly waiting, identically dressed male devotees (the women are in colourful ridas and seated separately). The consistently chest-thumping crowd sobbed and cried as the gentle patriarch recounted the tragic events of Karbala (in Iraq) in the 7th century, where Imam Hussain and many of his close relatives were killed because he refused to accept the Ummayid caliph Yazid as their leader. But apart from Muharram's tragic history, the Syedna, speaking softly in Gujarati and referring to the Quranic commandments and traditions of the Prophet, also reiterated the duty of a Muslim.
"The Syedna always stresses the point that his community members should be loyal to the land they live in. Peace and patriotism always feature in his discourses," said Shaikh Abdeali Bhanpurawala, a public relations officer associated with Dawat-e-Hadiyah, an institution headed by the Syedna. Though nowadays he speaks for around two hours at Muharram majlises, the Syedna is known for speaking for over four hours without a break.
"Spiritual power propels him to remain active even at this age," Bhanpurawala said. Family values, matrimonial harmony and bringing up children were part of his speech on Monday.
Since the Syedna's speech is considered sacred for every Bohra, there is a great rush to be at his Majlis. The attendees received their invitations after registering by e-mail. Nearly two lakh Bohras from across the world are in town and around 32,000 get to sit in the massive mosque at a time. Those who have not found a place at the mosque see him on screens set up at 60 relay centres across the city and suburbs. "It is an honour to volunteer our services here," said Murtuza Ali Siddiuqui, a businessman and an ardent follower of the Syedna.

LETTER TO THE EDITOR, TIME OF iNDIA
Re: the article “Syedna’s sermon at Saifee mosque” appeared at Page 7 of 14, December 2010 issue.

To,
The editor,
Times of India, Mumbai Date: 15-12-2010

Dear Sir,

Sub: Re: the article “Syedna’s sermon at Saifee mosque” appeared at Page 7 of 14, December 2010 issue.

Your correspondent may have his own view of the Bohra head and his way of celebrating rather then commemorating the Moharram depending on the information fed to him by so called Syena’s ‘marketing managers’ who have their own stake in the mega loot.
But the facts are otherwise.
The tragedy of Karbala in the month of Moharram is considered the greatest tragedy in the Muslim world in general and in Shia sect particularly. It is a solemn occasion of mourning that requires to be observed with utmost sobriety and simplicity. But in 1980 when the report of Justice Nathwani Commission of Inquiry on the infringement of human rights of the Dawoodi Bohra Community by the Syedna was made public which exposed the barbaric practices of Syedna and his administration, totally opposed to Islam and any civilized norms in order to amass wealth and properties by subjugation of the entire community. This report was so shocking to the world outside that the newspapers and magazines all over the world condemned Syedna for months. The Times of India dated July 24, 1985 wrote an editorial “An Obnoxious Practice” and again on February 17, 1987 another editorial “Outlaw Social Boycott” and a full-page article “The personal Likes and Dislikes of Rulers” on 6th April 1987, commenting on the excommunication, harassment and persecution of Dawoodi Bohra Reformists at the hands of the Syedna and highlighting his political support. Incidents such as murderous attacks on the Bohra reformist leader Dr. Asghar Ali Engineer, at Hyderabad, Kolkata, Cairo, Colombo and Mumbai have been reported by your esteem daily on the front pages.
To outwit the damage done to Syedna’s image by this world-wide exposure, all of a sudden he started making use of Moharram (by exploiting the religious sentiments of Bohras) to rebuilt his tarnished image and glorify himself as the world leader with self-claimed titles of “Ambassador of Peace” and “Humane at Heart”. Repeatedly every year it is said by Syedna’s ‘marketing managers’ that Syedna has instructed his followers “to remain loyal to their country” knowing fully well that as long as they remain loyal to their leader they can not be loyal their country as they can not report any anti-social and anti-national activity of the house of their Syedna.
It has been proved that Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin is an authoritarian ruler under the garb of religion with zero tolerance for any voice of descent and social reform. Through a pledge known as Misaq the Syedna virtually makes every Bohra his slave who dare not disobey him in any religious or social matter. Therefore ever since 1980, every year he organizes Moharram functions in places like Egypt, Karachi, Dubai, Colombo etc. The choice of place depends on the favourable political situation and the money-making mega projects that he intends to undertake at that place. He orders his slave Bohras to undertake long journeys and join him wherever he decides to held his sermons. This is done in order to show his strength and his following with an obvious sign ‘Touch me not’, without least consideration of harassment that his followers and residents of those places face. For example see the notice issued by BMC in connivance with Syedna’s establishment on 8-12-2010 announcing closure of five public roads in Bhindi Bazar up to 16th December to facilitate to accommodate 32,000 Bohras to sit outside mosque. How can BMC give permision to hold such large scale functions in thickly populated residential and business area and block the entire roads by erecting steel structures? Other Maulanas and Swamis organize gatherings of five and ten lakhs of people but not in the mist of population.
It is well know and well documented that the same Syedna was responsible for creating riot between Bohras and Sunni Muslims in August 1988 when he had openly cursed Muslim Khalifas. As reported 5 innocent lives were lost and properties worth crores of rupees were destroyed in that riot.
This year the Moharram Tamasha is held in the Bhindi Bazar Mumbai as Syedna has announced on the wide scale a project of 2000 Crore rupees of redeveloping the cluster area in the Bhindi Bazar around Saifee mosque. There is 80% Bohra population in that area but still he is able to get only 51% consent. This is according the statements issued the Times of India by the Saifee Burhani Redevelopment Trust. So he needed a grand show of his strength to push ahead the project.
I, on behalf of Central Board of Dawoodi Bohra Community – Mumbai therefore request you to kindly ask your reporters to verify facts before falling in the publicity trap of the Syedna and his stooges.
Thanks,
Saifuddin Insaf
Editor, Bohra Chronicle,
Aasara A3/004, Goverdhan Nagar,
Mulund (W), Mumbai – 400080.
Cell: 9819884226

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by aziz » Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:42 pm

this is a very very big case of the fox calling the grapes sour,first he claimed that due top political reasons that ashara could not be held in bhendi bazaar mumbai, now the story is different,the snake is very good at adapting like its fellow reptile the chameleon and changes his stories to suit his lies all the time , god knows what will come next from the snake

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:13 pm

Today a small portion of Syedna's audio tape was played and this is what was said (not the exact quote)
He talked about "Udaipur ni dawat maa bau moti phaat padi haati, haway ae phaat ochi tahi gaaye chee. Udipur ma,yemaen maa, mumbai ma,hindustan maa, pakistan maa, london maa and america maa jai mumineen naa pag bhari thai gaya che ane jai dawat se dur thaye gaya che, main ahne kaon chu ke tamey pacha aawi jaao, tamar dai pase pacha aavo"
This only proves one thing, for all those who think that people are not leaving Dawat are wrong, if the numbers who were defecting was small, Syedna would not make a special point to talk about it. It does prove that Kotharis are seeing a decrease in number of people who are not regular in Majlis and other programs.
I do hope that Kotharis do reach out and stop their dictatorial style and reach out to those disgruntled people and hopefully they can win the hearts and minds of many by changing their ways of dealing with community

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:51 pm

omabharti wrote:
.."Udipur ma,yemaen maa, mumbai ma,hindustan maa, pakistan maa, london maa and america maa jai mumineen naa pag bhari thai gaya che ane jai dawat se dur thaye gaya che, main ahne kaon chu ke tamey pacha aawi jaao, tamar dai pase pacha aavo"
...taake dai na farzando ane paaltu kutra amilo tamne barabar looti sake, tamne halal kare, tamne zaleel kare, ane tamne abde banave.. !!!

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:41 am

omabharti wrote:Today a small portion of Syedna's audio tape was played and this is what was said (not the exact quote)
He talked about "Udaipur ni dawat maa bau moti phaat padi haati, haway ae phaat ochi tahi gaaye chee. Udipur ma,yemaen maa, mumbai ma,hindustan maa, pakistan maa, london maa and america maa jai mumineen naa pag bhari thai gaya che ane jai dawat se dur thaye gaya che, main ahne kaon chu ke tamey pacha aawi jaao, tamar dai pase pacha aavo"
This only proves one thing, for all those who think that people are not leaving Dawat are wrong, if the numbers who were defecting was small, Syedna would not make a special point to talk about it. It does prove that Kotharis are seeing a decrease in number of people who are not regular in Majlis and other programs.
I do hope that Kotharis do reach out and stop their dictatorial style and reach out to those disgruntled people and hopefully they can win the hearts and minds of many by changing their ways of dealing with community
oma,Do u agree with insaaf's letter to yimes of india?
and do u incredible?

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by incredible » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:58 am

guy_sam2005 wrote:
omabharti wrote:Today a small portion of Syedna's audio tape was played and this is what was said (not the exact quote)
He talked about "Udaipur ni dawat maa bau moti phaat padi haati, haway ae phaat ochi tahi gaaye chee. Udipur ma,yemaen maa, mumbai ma,hindustan maa, pakistan maa, london maa and america maa jai mumineen naa pag bhari thai gaya che ane jai dawat se dur thaye gaya che, main ahne kaon chu ke tamey pacha aawi jaao, tamar dai pase pacha aavo"
This only proves one thing, for all those who think that people are not leaving Dawat are wrong, if the numbers who were defecting was small, Syedna would not make a special point to talk about it. It does prove that Kotharis are seeing a decrease in number of people who are not regular in Majlis and other programs.
I do hope that Kotharis do reach out and stop their dictatorial style and reach out to those disgruntled people and hopefully they can win the hearts and minds of many by changing their ways of dealing with community
oma,Do u agree with insaaf's letter to yimes of india?
and do u incredible?

nope i dont agree with such counter letter it wont bring any fruitful progress for any reformist.its just like barking on wrong tree.

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:28 pm

For all the abdes who are made to believe that niyaz during Mohurrum is sponsored by the dai and kothar, I came accross a huge board at Jamali Masjid, Mazgaon where it was boldly mentioned among other things that "Shed BIG DROPS of tears for mola's khushi etc etc" and at the end of the big hidayat it said -- Mumineen should contribute for niyaz, the rates of which were a) One Unit @ Rs.900/- per thaal b) Five units of Rs.4,500/- which went upto 52 units of Rs.46,800 and finally 110 Units of Rs.99,000/-.

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by Aarif » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:33 pm

That's true GM... My mum donated 5200. They kind of gave her bulk discount. Its like buying in wholesale. One individual thal is however 900 and quite expensive for poor bohras. But the beauty of spending this money is you get the sawaab of feeding mumineen on behalf of Syedna. These jamans will be served to bohras with the announcement that "aaj nu jaman maula taraf thi che" aameen...

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Re: ashra 1432

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Unread post by adna_mumin » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:56 pm

incredible wrote:4 Moharrum-ul-Haram, 1432 [ 10-12-2010 ] at Mumbai - India


Maula TUS arrived at 10:50 am at Saifee masjid in Mumbai to deliver the Third Waaz Mubarak of Ashara Mubaraka 1432. Todays Waaz Mubarak was relayed live worldwide to all Bilad Imaniya by Audio and Video.

Maula TUS ye be rakaat Tahiyatul Masjid ni namaz parhi te baad aap Waaz waaste padhaara. Mazoon e Dawat Syedi Khuzaima bs Qutbuddin saheb ne Maula TUS ye talaqqi nu sharaf bakhshu.

Aaj ni Waaz Mubarak ma Maula TUS ye Syedi Najam Khan Saheb ni zikr farmaavi. Aap na upar je imtehaan aaya, te aap ye sabr kidhu. Maula TUS Aayna(mirror) ni zikr farmaawta huwa farmaayu ke Syedi Najam Khan no aayno ghana Saaf hato. Aap ni taat ane ikhlaas ni zikr farmaavi.

Tej misal Maula TUS ye Laeen Jaffer ni fitnat ni zikr farmaavi. Maula TUS ye farmaayu ke Rutba waaste eh ye su su fitnato kidhi. Ehna Aayna ma safai nohti. Eh ye Dai ni raza bagair amal kidha.

Maula TUS te baad namaz waaste Qiyaam ma padhaara. Yaumul Jumoa ni namaz Syedi mazoon Saheb TUS ye parhaavi.

Maula TUS te baad Shahadat ni zikr waaste padhara. Purdard shahdat na baad Maula TUS Jumoa ni ziyarat waaste Raudat Tahera padhara ane wahan Mumineen ne deedar nu sharaf bakhshu.
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