The next Dai
The next Dai
I want to speculate as to who will be the next Dai.
There are presently three groups that are potential contenders:
-Moula's immediate family i.e his sons;
- the step- brother - Khuzema bhaisaheb; and
- YN's family cohorts.
It is not clear who will get the coveted seat. In the past this family has flipped the seat from the incumbent to the brother if the heir apparent son is too young or vulbnerable. The uncle then after his reign flips it to the son of the previous Dai.
Who shall be King:
My prediction: The next Dai will be the present Mukasir who is the full brother of the Dai and is also old. Upon his death, he will appoint one of Moula's sons as Dai.
The Mozzum is not a player. I think he has been bought out.
YN's sons I beleive have made enough money especially one of his son's (lovely boy) who was in Nairobi for years and in business with Heptulla and got the Khuzema bhai saheb removed from Nairobi when he attempted to reconcile with the Reformists.
I look forward to hearing other peoples' views.
There are presently three groups that are potential contenders:
-Moula's immediate family i.e his sons;
- the step- brother - Khuzema bhaisaheb; and
- YN's family cohorts.
It is not clear who will get the coveted seat. In the past this family has flipped the seat from the incumbent to the brother if the heir apparent son is too young or vulbnerable. The uncle then after his reign flips it to the son of the previous Dai.
Who shall be King:
My prediction: The next Dai will be the present Mukasir who is the full brother of the Dai and is also old. Upon his death, he will appoint one of Moula's sons as Dai.
The Mozzum is not a player. I think he has been bought out.
YN's sons I beleive have made enough money especially one of his son's (lovely boy) who was in Nairobi for years and in business with Heptulla and got the Khuzema bhai saheb removed from Nairobi when he attempted to reconcile with the Reformists.
I look forward to hearing other peoples' views.
Re: The next Dai
Mufaddal BS and Qaid Johar BS are probable front-runners. Mufaddal BS was a clear favourite some years ago, always appearing in public by the side of the Sayedna. Its not so clear-cut anymore.
Its quite possible given the current state of affairs that the Sayedna will not openly declare a successor and the matter will be settled after his death.
If he is breathing his last, London may have been his preferred choice. That is where his wife is buried after all and he would probably wish to be buried by her side in the London mosque complex.
Prepare for your next ziyarat trip to Raudat Burhaniya London...
Its quite possible given the current state of affairs that the Sayedna will not openly declare a successor and the matter will be settled after his death.
If he is breathing his last, London may have been his preferred choice. That is where his wife is buried after all and he would probably wish to be buried by her side in the London mosque complex.
Prepare for your next ziyarat trip to Raudat Burhaniya London...
Re: The next Dai
Can anyone provide any factual information on the current Dai's allegedly ill health ?
Re: The next Dai
Write to:
Janab Aamilsaheb:
Dr. Idris Bhaisaheb Zainuddin
Dar ul-Imarat
Anjuman-e-Burhani
E-mails:
aamilsaheb@londonjamaat.org
AND
office@londonjamaat.org
Janab Aamilsaheb:
Dr. Idris Bhaisaheb Zainuddin
Dar ul-Imarat
Anjuman-e-Burhani
E-mails:
aamilsaheb@londonjamaat.org
AND
office@londonjamaat.org
Re: The next Dai
Muslim,
London is already a place for ziarat. Never in the history of the Dais have their wives been worshipped like Bua saheba is being worshipped. Also do not forget the box for contributions which is there. When I was in UK someone suggested I should go for ziarat of Bua saheba. I told him you must be nuts! This community has gone nuts and have taken leave of their mental faculties.
London is already a place for ziarat. Never in the history of the Dais have their wives been worshipped like Bua saheba is being worshipped. Also do not forget the box for contributions which is there. When I was in UK someone suggested I should go for ziarat of Bua saheba. I told him you must be nuts! This community has gone nuts and have taken leave of their mental faculties.
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How many Bohras know where is the grave of Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb's mother and what is her name? I know them but just want to know how many Bohras going for ziyarat of Boo Saheba in London know it.
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just a point,
bua saheba had done a lot for bohra women in general when she was alive. she was very active. the current sahifa al'ibadat of the bohras was edited and recompiled by her.
bua saheba had done a lot for bohra women in general when she was alive. she was very active. the current sahifa al'ibadat of the bohras was edited and recompiled by her.
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I agree with Spot: the former Busaheba has done a lot for women. Her sahifa is really very useful, specially for Ramadan and other important occasions as all dua's and ceremonies are listed in it in detail. Unfortunately many of the women's organizations she helped start are now being run by despot wives of Amils. A few decades ago women organization would keep an account of every rupee collected and spent. Today, wives of Amils openly say that no one has any right to ask how the collected money is spent. Further, many bohras women involved in social causes (there were a surprisingly large number of them) have been forced to stop their activities. In this manner, service of supplying poor bohra families with money for education, books, school fees has suffered tremendously. The distribution of wheat, rice and other food stuff to poor families in Ramadan used to happen regularly in the past. Now it has all stopped, even though sufficient funds are collected.
Anyway, the question is here of ziyarat. I believe that there is no need to start a tourist industry around it as is being done currently. Remembering a person and reflecting on his/her life should be sufficient. The present administration has put unnecessary pressure on bohras to visit shrines. I have personally seen families spending thousands of rupees in ziyarat tours while hesitating to spend a few hundred on their children or family. One can't blame the bohras as it has been drilled into their heads that ziyarat is so important that one should sacrifice everything to visit the shrines of pious-but-dead people.
Anyway, the question is here of ziyarat. I believe that there is no need to start a tourist industry around it as is being done currently. Remembering a person and reflecting on his/her life should be sufficient. The present administration has put unnecessary pressure on bohras to visit shrines. I have personally seen families spending thousands of rupees in ziyarat tours while hesitating to spend a few hundred on their children or family. One can't blame the bohras as it has been drilled into their heads that ziyarat is so important that one should sacrifice everything to visit the shrines of pious-but-dead people.
Re: The next Dai
Kalim
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the beloved one has said himself.
rest should but follow.
but wait???????
atleast until the porus,
or,
the ALL POROUS one,
speaks about the all the porous ones, ie, clergy, that resides in all your hearts, for until?
well?????
u might, could, and should kill your clergy. here all clergy is deemed at minimum for the disputable site,
or you could always proclaim
"Long live the Queen", or
"Long live the King?" or
"Long live Madonna".
so spew yourself in directions that target the
very 'highness', which in anyways is limited to or relegated to ...
sorry, your high one was not worthy of even asecond of madonna's plight.
so how high is that? that's beyound the height of your 'moula' or what you call him. that's his plight and yoy all go down with him. and if you go up with him, that will only be for madonna's delight, until she sets yoy down, to reach with rest of humans.
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the beloved one has said himself.
rest should but follow.
but wait???????
atleast until the porus,
or,
the ALL POROUS one,
speaks about the all the porous ones, ie, clergy, that resides in all your hearts, for until?
well?????
u might, could, and should kill your clergy. here all clergy is deemed at minimum for the disputable site,
or you could always proclaim
"Long live the Queen", or
"Long live the King?" or
"Long live Madonna".
so spew yourself in directions that target the
very 'highness', which in anyways is limited to or relegated to ...
sorry, your high one was not worthy of even asecond of madonna's plight.
so how high is that? that's beyound the height of your 'moula' or what you call him. that's his plight and yoy all go down with him. and if you go up with him, that will only be for madonna's delight, until she sets yoy down, to reach with rest of humans.
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Re: The next Dai
Can someone please translate what Sagan writes. It is beyond my comprehension.
Re: The next Dai
NEXT DAI!
WHO CARES?
WILL IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO BOHRA????
I CAN SEE NO ONE AMONG THOSE KOTHARI WHO MAY AID A LITTLE POOR BOHRA!
WHO CARES?
WILL IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO BOHRA????
I CAN SEE NO ONE AMONG THOSE KOTHARI WHO MAY AID A LITTLE POOR BOHRA!
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S. Insaf wrote:How many Bohras know where is the grave of Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb's mother and what is her name? I know them but just want to know how many Bohras going for ziyarat of Boo Saheba in London know it.
Husaina Ay Saheba (Surat).
You hate the 51st, 52nd and true 53rd Dai.
And all Duats and Imams before them
What do you care?
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Adam wrote:S. Insaf wrote:How many Bohras know where is the grave of Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb's mother and what is her name? I know them but just want to know how many Bohras going for ziyarat of Boo Saheba in London know it.
Husaina Ay Saheba (Surat).
You hate the 51st, 52nd and true 53rd Dai.
And all Duats and Imams before them
What do you care?
Wah Adam babu !! Achi tarah sabaq yad kiya hai tu ney. Leikn 9 saal laga deye Insaf uncle ko jawab denay mein !!!!
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Woe now muffy side need blank singnature forcefully by sending gonda to all mummin placevat night
Just got sms from shehteali. At 11:34 pm at night
Mumineen aaje Huzurala Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS ni mohabbat je apna dilo ma chey ane Apna Aqida ne izhaar karva no moqe chey. Ye silsila ma Aaje rate Khidmat guzaaro aapna ghare avse ane ek Representation par apni sign lay jase.
Just got sms from shehteali. At 11:34 pm at night
Mumineen aaje Huzurala Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS ni mohabbat je apna dilo ma chey ane Apna Aqida ne izhaar karva no moqe chey. Ye silsila ma Aaje rate Khidmat guzaaro aapna ghare avse ane ek Representation par apni sign lay jase.
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Blank paper signature?
You must be joking.
You guys are totally scaring the daylight out of me!
You must be joking.
You guys are totally scaring the daylight out of me!
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The Dai and his cohorts are hostile to your liberty. Allah gave you life and liberty do not give up this gift.