End Muffy's VVIP Culture.

[ghulam muhammed]

Elections over, VVIP culture back

While we encounter several difficulties on daily basis reaching our respective workplaces, travelling on trains, taking our buses, there is a growing breed of politicians or self proclaimed VVIPs who want to make people like you and me suffer by delaying our flights, choking us up in queues because they take a shortcut and most importantly insulting us for paying taxes and abiding laws. Here in TIMES NOW, we call to end this VVIP Raj once and for all.

http://www.timesnow.tv/Elections-over-V ... 473887.cms

TimesNow channel has started a nationwide drive to end VVIP culture which is the cause of harassment and inconvenience for the common man. Its editor Arnab Goswami is airing one hour programmes on News Hour debates at 9pm on a daily basis wherein he invites politicians, activists and victims of VVIP culture where he demands accountability from government and demands a ban on the special privileges given to ministers and bureaucrats who use them at the cost of the common man.

He also takes phone calls from victims who narrate their harrowing experiences and the manner in which they were inconvenienced due to these VVIPs who think that they are above everyone and have every right to get preferential treatment at airports, railway stations, parking lots, toll plazas and even public roads. People are suffering because of misuse of power of these select few as even ambulances are stopped if a VIP car passes by and these racists also skip the security checks at airports and in many cases even take their cars right upto the tarmac.

The channel invites people from all class to air their grievances on the issue. The channel has been targeting only politicians and bureaucrats till now hence it is imperative that we enlighten them about the malaise prevailing among fake godmen and religious leaders including Muffy who in attempts to self glorify himself indulges in such activities rampantly. He is a source of inconvenience for the common man in every city that he visits as he demands special privileges for himself which includes driving his car upto the aircraft, getting away with security checks, travelling under police escorts although there is absolutely no threat to his life from anyone. He builds temporary bridges over public roads during Mohurrum and Milad tamashas in cities like Mumbai and Surat so that he can leisurely walk a distance of a few feet minus the crowds thereby inconveniencing the pedestrians and blocks traffic on major roads as he invites abdes to flock in huge numbers for his deedar who create traffic jams for hours together.

In the above newspaper article there is a column for people who want to comment on the subject, hence it would be nice if forum members and their friends send their respective comments and if possible even photographs and video clippings with regard to Muffy's VVIP culture as it would be interesting to see how he or his henchmen defend his self glorification and arrogance on national television.

[alam]

Yes, this attention to positions of power breeds a culture of narcissism and many evils.

All in the name of false gods, promise of the unknown hereafter, and worldly rewards of recognition, maula no khushi, and pats on the back.

How educated intelligent people continue to fall for this is a testament to the human folly for self- glorification and pride, that leads otherwise good people to do atrocious things, in the name of religion, or blind obedience. Same like in the army for war and war crimes.

[Saiyaad]

Does he really look like someone who is Dai , who should call on people to come to religion of peace and become modest and sincere and honest and worship Allah and no other God, "La illaha illallah" or does he look like Rich corrupt Bohra Business Tycoon who manufactures and sells product " Barkat thaase" and buys blind faith from people.

[lawgraduate]

These extravaganza acts has killed whole spiritual aspects of bohra's faith. and it becomes worst when people starts justifying these acts.

not a single ounce of deen and Iman are left in these gatherings. Leader who refuses to give up his comfort zone and ayyashi is unfit to call himself Islamic leader. Instead of charter plane he could have gone London in simple economy class just to put him self as an example, but he decided to go like a billionaire who earns money, while he forget these money is not from his talent but by squeezing from poor people.

if Muhammed (s) wanted mountain would have turned into gold, but our prophet decided to live and die poor, dai who cant be example for his people is definately fraud. people who are paying single penny to this guy mufaddal is giving money for haram act, they are sponsoring an idol. cut down each and every kind of money supply to this maloon.

I am personally perfectly fine with bohra faith, but when I see these ayyashi I cant stand to be with them, this same problem I had with muhammed burhanuddin, his craze for birthdays and worldwide tours were completely opposite to his waez and preachings, one cannot keep double face, if you talk about panjatan you have to live and be example for the people. you can't fly around in jet flights while on other hand talk how Imam Ali use to wear clothes with 1000 patches. you cant ask people to cry on thirst and hunger of Imam Hussain while you are wearing 1 lakh worth Rolex and moving around in Bentley and rolls roys.

simplicity is LITMUS TEST

GREATNESS OF OUR NABI AND AHLULBAYT

All his recorded words and actions reveal him as a man of great gentleness, kindness, humility, good humor and excellent common sense. He was the most modest without any pride and his tongue was the most eloquent without any prolongation of his speech.

Despite his position as leader, Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) never behaved as if he was greater or better than other people. He never made people feel small, unwanted or embarrassed. He urged his followers to live kindly and humbly. He released slaves whenever he could and gave charity, especially to very poor people, and orphans, without waiting for any reward.

Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) himself was never greedy. He ate very little and only ate simple food. He preferred never to fill his stomach. Sometimes, for days on end, he would eat nothing but raw food. He used to bind stones onto his belly to appease his hunger and considered milk as sufficient if he did not have any other food.

Above all, he was a man who practiced what he preached. His life, both private and public, was a perfect model for his followers.

[ghulam muhammed]

Instead of charter plane he could have gone London in simple economy class just to put him self as an example, but he decided to go like a billionaire who earns money, while he forget these money is not from his talent but by squeezing from poor people.

Compare Muffy who lives a life of ayyashi out of the crumbs thrown to him by his slave followers with Azim Premji, CEO of M/s. Wipro who is one of the richest man in the world and has donated Rs.12,000 crores for charity :-

Azim Premji is not finicky about the mode of travel. He always travels Economy Class. He is also not worried about the brand of car or taxi that he uses to commute. Once when the car that was booked for him did not turn up, he coolly took an auto-rickshaw to his destination.

Whenever he can, Azim Premji always stays at the company guest house. He takes food from the company canteen. He says, "What is good for my employees is good for me".

His son was refused stay at the company guest house, since it was only for employees. mmm!

At one point of time, he had a terror threat on his life. During the entire period, he insisted that co-workers with him travel separately since he did not want them to get hurt in case any incident happened.

Note: For those who do not know, Azim Premji is the chief of Wipro, one of the largest companies in the world.

http://education.sulekha.com/a-few-thin ... 94229_blog

[Fateh]

Instead of charter plane he could have gone London in simple economy class just to put him self as an example, but he decided to go like a billionaire who earns money, while he forget these money is not from his talent but by squeezing from poor people.

Compare Muffy who lives a life of ayyashi out of the crumbs thrown to him by his slave followers with Azim Premji, CEO of M/s. Wipro who is one of the richest man in the world and has donated Rs.12,000 crores for charity :-

Azim Premji is not finicky about the mode of travel. He always travels Economy Class. He is also not worried about the brand of car or taxi that he uses to commute. Once when the car that was booked for him did not turn up, he coolly took an auto-rickshaw to his destination.

Whenever he can, Azim Premji always stays at the company guest house. He takes food from the company canteen. He says, "What is good for my employees is good for me".

His son was refused stay at the company guest house, since it was only for employees. mmm!

At one point of time, he had a terror threat on his life. During the entire period, he insisted that co-workers with him travel separately since he did not want them to get hurt in case any incident happened.

Note: For those who do not know, Azim Premji is the chief of Wipro, one of the largest companies in the world.

http://education.sulekha.com/a-few-thin ... 94229_blog

Gmbhai Azim premji ate halal food so & -----------------

[ghulam muhammed]

Compare Muffy who lives a life of ayyashi out of the crumbs thrown to him by his slave followers with Azim Premji, CEO of M/s. Wipro who is one of the richest man in the world and has donated Rs.12,000 crores for charity :-

Azim Premji is not finicky about the mode of travel. He always travels Economy Class. He is also not worried about the brand of car or taxi that he uses to commute. Once when the car that was booked for him did not turn up, he coolly took an auto-rickshaw to his destination.

Whenever he can, Azim Premji always stays at the company guest house. He takes food from the company canteen. He says, "What is good for my employees is good for me".

His son was refused stay at the company guest house, since it was only for employees. mmm!

At one point of time, he had a terror threat on his life. During the entire period, he insisted that co-workers with him travel separately since he did not want them to get hurt in case any incident happened.

Note: For those who do not know, Azim Premji is the chief of Wipro, one of the largest companies in the world.

http://education.sulekha.com/a-few-thin ... 94229_blog

Gmbhai Azim premji ate halal food so & -----------------

Let me add........ Azim Premji ate halal food with "halal" income and not from looting people in the garb of religion !!

[ghulam muhammed]

Yes, this attention to positions of power breeds a culture of narcissism and many evils.

All in the name of false gods, promise of the unknown hereafter, and worldly rewards of recognition, maula no khushi, and pats on the back.

How educated intelligent people continue to fall for this is a testament to the human folly for self- glorification and pride, that leads otherwise good people to do atrocious things, in the name of religion, or blind obedience. Same like in the army for war and war crimes.

[ghulam muhammed]

These extravaganza acts has killed whole spiritual aspects of bohra's faith. and it becomes worst when people starts justifying these acts.

not a single ounce of deen and Iman are left in these gatherings. Leader who refuses to give up his comfort zone and ayyashi is unfit to call himself Islamic leader. Instead of charter plane he could have gone London in simple economy class just to put him self as an example, but he decided to go like a billionaire who earns money, while he forget these money is not from his talent but by squeezing from poor people.

Muffy hollow beats even the richest man in the world when it comes to Ayyashi :-

Warren Buffett, perennially ranked among the world's richest men, lives a lifestyle that hasn't changed much since before he before he made his billions. He is often referred to as the world's greatest investor, and his long-term track record suggests the title is well deserved. He is also legendarily frugal, residing in the same house in Omaha, Nebraska, that he bought in 1958 for $31,500. He is well known for his simple tastes, including McDonald's hamburgers and cherry Coke, and his disdain for technology, including computers and luxury cars.

Despite a net worth measured in billions, Warren Buffett earns a base salary of $100,000 a year at Berkshire Hathaway. It's a salary that has not changed in 25 years. A man of simple tastes, including watching sports on television and eating junk food, Buffett easily supports his modest standard of living with this salary.

As a value investor, Buffett is always looking for a bargain. Even his wedding was a simple affair rather than a celebrity-studded gala. A man who could have chosen any venue in the world got married in 2006 in Omaha at a private ceremony held at his daughter's house. The ceremony lasted just 15 minutes.

Buffett is also happy with what he has in terms of his modest standard of living. He isn't interested in a bigger house, a newer car or owning his own island. He simply doesn't care about the Joneses and what they have.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/fi ... frugal.asp

[Admin]

Posting on behalf of Ghulam Muhammed:

[seeker110]

Some are simple pain in the ass. Then there are others, royal pain the ass.

[think]

The simplicity of a religious leader can be seen in the budhist monk ,the Dalai LLama. although he has huge amonts of funds at his disposal he travels economy. He is invited to some of the renowned universities to lecture on peace and harmony. compare this leader to Muffy. you will know the truth. Muffy is a con artist.

[humanbeing]

. Muffy is a con artist.

A ring Master ! or in indian context .. "madaaari" .. one sway of hand .. and see how the abdes ... react to his fancies ... bagpipers, drummers, fancy dressers, darbaans,

Muffy maula is the wizard of oz .. the great abde circus ... !!

[alivasan]

These extravaganza acts has killed whole spiritual aspects of bohra's faith. and it becomes worst when people starts justifying these acts.

not a single ounce of deen and Iman are left in these gatherings. Leader who refuses to give up his comfort zone and ayyashi is unfit to call himself Islamic leader. Instead of charter plane he could have gone London in simple economy class just to put him self as an example, but he decided to go like a billionaire who earns money, while he forget these money is not from his talent but by squeezing from poor people.

Muffy hollow beats even the richest man in the world when it comes to Ayyashi :-

Warren Buffett, perennially ranked among the world's richest men, lives a lifestyle that hasn't changed much since before he before he made his billions. He is often referred to as the world's greatest investor, and his long-term track record suggests the title is well deserved. He is also legendarily frugal, residing in the same house in Omaha, Nebraska, that he bought in 1958 for $31,500. He is well known for his simple tastes, including McDonald's hamburgers and cherry Coke, and his disdain for technology, including computers and luxury cars.

Despite a net worth measured in billions, Warren Buffett earns a base salary of $100,000 a year at Berkshire Hathaway. It's a salary that has not changed in 25 years. A man of simple tastes, including watching sports on television and eating junk food, Buffett easily supports his modest standard of living with this salary.

As a value investor, Buffett is always looking for a bargain. Even his wedding was a simple affair rather than a celebrity-studded gala. A man who could have chosen any venue in the world got married in 2006 in Omaha at a private ceremony held at his daughter's house. The ceremony lasted just 15 minutes.

Buffett is also happy with what he has in terms of his modest standard of living. He isn't interested in a bigger house, a newer car or owning his own island. He simply doesn't care about the Joneses and what they have.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/fi ... frugal.asp

Agree with both examples premji and warren buffet.I have personally met premji while working in wipro and anyone will fall in love with his likes, frugal nature.its not only premji but find many educated khoja shia asheri not only live simple life but gain lot of respect as they earn halal income.muffy the clown is no comparison here.

[fiate2000]

Does not the Kothar make aware the airline management of appropriate dress code in the presence of a religious leader. Look at the lady with bare legs. How insolent!! Nawuzubillah!!

Does he really look like someone who is Dai , who should call on people to come to religion of peace and become modest and sincere and honest and worship Allah and no other God, "La illaha illallah" or does he look like Rich corrupt Bohra Business Tycoon who manufactures and sells product " Barkat thaase" and buys blind faith from people.

[alivasan]

Mr Mufatlal is just tactical salesman of dawaat inc selling masalla space,kabar space and god not what virtually inexistence spaces to Abdes who rot in illegal wealth and have fear where will he go when he dies so muddy offers consolation virtually inexistent space in heaven if he gets his commission

[alivasan]

mufatlal business flourish as there are masses who earn haram wealth and who seek mufatlals consolation that definately mr burhanuddin who has reserved large space by going first there will be available to welcome all and will pick everyones hand not leaving single soul which is contrast to what when he was on earth(he could. Not be accessed even on few meters so only those who has money has access).

[alivasan]

if we go to USA we pay for visa right. so for going go space which muffy and his forefathers own we have to pay him on earth for stay on earth also advance payment for unfortunate event so muffys books of accounts are made good for everything complete package

[alivasan]

Moral of story - nothing comes free, not even virtually inexistent space if Abde is rot businessman have amazed illegal wealth by exploiting land,labour,capital in disprropotiate way. this is not case with those who dont exploit land,labour,capital and get wages on daily basis in peanuts

[alivasan]

See real face of double faced so called bohri businessmen - mufatlal lures them by giving 100% salvation guarantee its on offer first come first serve so rot evil line up to get this offer and throw money and also carry mindset that since mufatlal has given guarantee there is no harm in doing more evil and amaze wealth by hook or crook as its biz mindset evildoers thinks they are empowered to do evil and amaze wealth so that mufatlal can parade like Cinderella with all goodies around him.

[salim]

At the time of golden jubilee, when Azim premji along with a few other Ismaili industrialists went to Aga Khan and asked him for his vision for Ismailis in india, Aga Khan told them to serve poor people of India. He told them not to be industrialist like some who make lots of money and are no help to society. That initiated a lots of efforts from Azim Premji and their like minded to help poor and needed.

[alam]

At the time of golden jubilee, when Azim premji along with a few other Ismaili industrialists went to Aga Khan and asked him for his vision for Ismailis in india, Aga Khan told them to serve poor people of India. He told them not to be industrialist like some who make lots of money and are no help to society. That initiated a lots of efforts from Azim Premji and their like minded to help poor and needed.

And to the bohras it is not serve the poor it is "Dawat niKhidmat". Translation- "serve the qasre-aali" -with the "Jee Saab, waaru Saab, zaroor Saab"

[think]

here is one way how waroo saab, jee saab zaroor saab works. This is not a saab but a saheba and the amte women of atlanta are giving her a farewell dinner with lots of expensive gifts. What has she done to deserve this farewell. Nothing and neither has the amil who has been tranfered. yet the amtes somehow have decided to give her a big farewell party regardless. I say thank goodness, good riddance. It was all free apartment, free car, free food free first class travel and to top it all off free salams on top of salary paid by kothar. what more can one ask, oh yes, jee saab, zaroor saab, waroo saab.

[Kaka Akela]

Bro Think:

Where is transferred to??

Several aamils have been transferred they all have to leave town by end of Rajab. All communities behave in giving lavish gifts and private parties to these lechers. Atlanta is not unique in this.

[salim]

At the time of golden jubilee, when Azim premji along with a few other Ismaili industrialists went to Aga Khan and asked him for his vision for Ismailis in india, Aga Khan told them to serve poor people of India. He told them not to be industrialist like some who make lots of money and are no help to society. That initiated a lots of efforts from Azim Premji and their like minded to help poor and needed.

And to the bohras it is not serve the poor it is "Dawat niKhidmat". Translation- "serve the qasre-aali" -with the "Jee Saab, waaru Saab, zaroor Saab"

Premji family is super progressive. Ismailis have too too many progressives. May be bohras and ismailis should do an exchange deal. We give you progressive jamat and you give us some abde jamat. Since we need some abdes, abdes are a lot more committed and dedicated and they don't ask too many questions..

[alam]

Bro Salim- your suggestion is not funny at all. Why do you make light of it?

What is your estimate of # super progressives among your Ismaili Jamaat? I'll have to check in with my sources and see what the estimate for "non-questioning abdes" are all over the world in bohra jamaats.

So far, last I checked, there are many different categories of "non-questioning abdes", depending on geographical location, education, SES status etc. it would get complicated - plus we have to consider transition camp costs, pirate ships, and a few "self-hating" kotharis and bohras. As far as self-hating bohras go, I think there are some on this forum who would gladly provide insights into their location and inclinations, buts it's likely that they don't exist at all.

Your progressives whom you wish to get rid of would be required to go through a thorough due diligence and background check, to rule out greed/narcissism. Bohra community has excess of these - so we have to be careful, hope you understand.

[salim]

Bro Salim- your suggestion is not funny at all. Why do you make light of it?

What is your estimate of # super progressives among your Ismaili Jamaat? I'll have to check in with my sources and see what the estimate for "non-questioning abdes" are all over the world in bohra jamaats.

So far, last I checked, there are many different categories of "non-questioning abdes", depending on geographical location, education, SES status etc. it would get complicated - plus we have to consider transition camp costs, pirate ships, and a few "self-hating" kotharis and bohras. As far as self-hating bohras go, I think there are some on this forum who would gladly provide insights into their location and inclinations, buts it's likely that they don't exist at all.

Your progressives whom you wish to get rid of would be required to go through a thorough due diligence and background check, to rule out greed/narcissism. Bohra community has excess of these - so we have to be careful, hope you understand.

Bro Alam,

Actually I am very surprised how bohras have so many abdes.

For a community to be successful, you need all kind of people. Very similar to a company or any group. Conservative Abdes play a role too. Actually a big role. If progressives are hearts and brains of a community then abdes are legs and hands.

Abdes are the one who give away their money without asking any accounts. They are the one who change their lives on one order, without giving a second thought. They are the one who keep doing things that are not as helpful without taking a second opinion.

In a community, you can't afford to only implement policies which are proven, and you can't always be accountable all the time. You need some Guinea pigs.

According to Psychology Today fear plays a big role in making someone conservative (to an extent that they become abde).
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/th ... tives-dont

Ismailis do have abdes, but their number is getting smaller. May be because of increase in education, their number is automatically becoming smaller.

Overall education and specially western education is anti-abde. If you are abde mindset you would thrive in Saudi Arabia and China.

[allbird]

Does he really look like someone who is Dai , who should call on people to come to religion of peace and become modest and sincere and honest and worship Allah and no other God, "La illaha illallah" or does he look like Rich corrupt Bohra Business Tycoon who manufactures and sells product " Barkat thaase" and buys blind faith from people.

Wow what a show on other people's money !! Some people are just lucky born with silver spoons. envy: envy:

[SBM]

Overall education and specially western education is anti-abde. If you are abde mindset you would thrive in Saudi Arabia and China.

Exception to the rule in case of Bohra Abdes.
Dahod and his wife arehighly educated so are many who reside in Seattle and California they are Smart Abdes nonetheless Abdes

[think]

kaka akela, will try to find out his new post but the new lutera is coming from karachi. These gamils come here for a few years make their retirement and vanish. when will the people get some sense that this is not a religion but a corporation to cheat and swindle the ordinary bohra.