Mumbai terrorist attack

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Mumbai terrorist attack

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Unread post by Maqbool » Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:44 am

It is sad news that one couple Salim Hararwala and his wife are killed in the attack at Colaba.

Shazada Shabbirbhai Saheb is injured in Oberoi Hotel.

Any more news?

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Unread post by like_minded » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:22 am

Its very sad...

Where is syedna and his mozijas?

What the hell was this shahzada doing in Oberoi hotel? Was he with an escort?? Or there, to hog free meals??

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:00 am

Around 40 to 50 bohras were held up at Tajmahal Hotel and managed to come out only today morning. There was probably some meeting with certain foreigners in which Shabbirbhai saab was also present. It seems that the meeting was attended by fanatic bohras because one of the person was a Nagdevi street tanzim commitee member who managed to reach home alongwith his wife today morning at around 10 a.m. He resides at Asma Manzil, Nagdevi st. It is also reported that Shehzada Shabbirbhai recieved bullet injuries and is at present in an I.C.U. in some Mumbai hospital.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:48 am

WE WANT BRITISH AND U.S. SAY GUNMEN.

MUMBAI (AFP) - The young gunmen roaming the corridors of two luxury hotels in Mumbai were shooting wildly, but they knew exactly what sort of guests they intended to take hostage.

"They told everybody to stop and put their hands up and asked if there were any British or Americans," Alex Chamberlain, a British guest at the Oberoi/Trident hotel, said after fleeing his captors via a fire escape.

"My friend said to me, 'don't be a hero, don't say you are British.'"

Gunmen held an unknown number of hostages inside the hotel and at the famous Taj Mahal hotel overnight and through much of Thursday.

Chamberlain told Indian television that he and other guests had been herded together by the gunmen and taken up to the upper floors of the hotel.

Rakesh Patel, a guest at the Taj, said that "they were after foreigners, because they were asking for British or American passports.


"They came from the restaurant and took us up the stairs," Patel, a British citizen based in Hong Kong, told NDTV news, his face blackened by smoke.

"They were very young, like boys really, wearing jeans and T-shirts," he said, adding that he and another hostage managed to escape on the 18th floor.

One Taj guest related how she lay on the floor of one room with 25 other petrified people as gunmen fought special commandos.

"That was, without doubt, the worst experience of my entire life," she told reporters. "It was a very, very painful six hours.

"We could hear the army coming through the hotel. We heard the firing and the blasts. In the end the firemen broke the windows of the room and we climbed down the ladder."

Backpacker Steve Loschko, 30, from Minnesota, told AFP he saw a man standing on the roof above the penthouse suites of the Taj at about 1:30 am shouting "Help me, help me" to firefighters.

Military units stormed the Taj hotel in the early hours of Thursday morning to confront a handful of gunmen armed with assault rifles and grenades.

In the encounter a huge fire broke out at the top of the hotel, trapping some guests.

Australian television actress Brooke Satchwell, a former star in the soap opera Neighbours, hid inside a small cupboard when the violence erupted at the Taj.

"As I stepped inside the lobby gunshots started to go off," she said. "It was really terrifying. There were people getting shot in the corridor. There was someone dead outside the bathroom."

The head of the Madrid government and a British member of the European Parliament were inside the Taj when the gunmen attacked but escaped unhurt.

"I saw one man on foot carrying a machine gun-type of weapon -- which I then saw him firing from and I saw people hitting the floor, people right next to me," MEP Sajjad Karim was quoted as saying by the BBC.

An Australian student said his girlfriend was shot and wounded when other gunmen stormed the Cafe Leopold restaurant in Mumbai and opened fire.

David Coker, 23, and his partner Katie Anstee, 24, were on holiday to celebrate graduating from university.

"We had literally just ordered and then it seemed like firecrackers -- people were screaming," he told The Courier-Mail newspaper.

Anstee was shot in the leg, with the bullet breaking her femur and exiting through the front of her thigh, while Coker was grazed by a bullet.

"I turned around and she was crawling out the door because she couldn't walk," he said.

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Re: Mumbai terrorist attack

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:09 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:WE WANT BRITISH AND U.S. SAY GUNMEN.
A wishful thinking by the oppressed bohras :-

Imagine burhanudin saab at the Tajmahal Hotel attending the meeting with Shehzada Shabbirbhai and the gunmen asking for his passport, remember he has a BRITISH PASSPORT. Then what next ????????????????????????????????????

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Re: Mumbai terrorist attack

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Unread post by bohraji » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:52 pm

Salaam to All.

I pray that all come out safe and may God grant sabr to the relatives of the departed.

I hope this ends asap its so very,very sad.

I always thought that Sayedna was an Indian national. As if ,he is a British national then he would be free to visit the Gulf countries like Bahrain ,Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

Please clarify his nationality /passport Mr. Mohammed.

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Re: Mumbai terrorist attack

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:46 pm

why wud he keep a british passport? is this true? on the one hand he keeps his seat of power in india where the govt, politicians and tax authorities can be corrupted and bought and on the other hand he carries a british passport? quite devious and strange...

the latest theory is that the attackers came via sea. they were illegally on a cargo ship which offloaded them and their highspeed boats. they landed at the gateway of india and then spread out all over mumbai.

it is also being speculated that they were probably asissted by somali pirates who are out to take revenge against the indian navy..

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Re: Mumbai terrorist attack

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Unread post by Danish » Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:45 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:why wud he keep a british passport? is this true?
Welcome back Al Zulfiqar. :)

What's even more tantalizing to understand and witness that Burhanuddin carries a British Passport as dual citizenshiup? Is there any proofs?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:21 pm

Danish wrote:What's even more tantalizing to understand and witness that Burhanuddin carries a British Passport as dual citizenshiup? Is there any proofs?
Iam quite sure that he holds a british passport since many years. Regarding proof, when it is difficult to even approach him in person then you one can imagine how difficult it must be to lay hands on his passport. I think Mr.Insaf can definately throw some more light on the subject.

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Unread post by Danish » Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:31 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:
Danish wrote:What's even more tantalizing to understand and witness that Burhanuddin carries a British Passport as dual citizenshiup? Is there any proofs?
Iam quite sure that he holds a british passport since many years.
If you are "quite sure", or meaning certain, then please provide evidence or else please refrain from making extraordinary claims or hearsies? This only differentiates a rightful from wrongful adherents as history has already proven.

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Re: Mumbai terrorist attack

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:46 pm

Br.Danish,

I myself do not believe in hearsay and Iam "certain" of what Iam saying. Although I wouldnt be able to provide you with a zerox copy of his passport but I will definately give you some strong clues in due course. Please wait for sometime.

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Unread post by Danish » Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:58 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Br.Danish,

I myself do not believe in hearsay and Iam "certain" of what Iam saying. Although I wouldnt be able to provide you with a zerox copy of his passport but I will definately give you some strong clues in due course. Please wait for sometime.
No problem and awaiting evidence of Burhanuddin's dual (or singular) citizenship to be exposed by "ghulam muhammed". Thanks.

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Re: Mumbai terrorist attack

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Unread post by Maqbool » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:34 am

This is a great
Lesson
to those blind followers, who spends thousends of money for the kadam and jiaft of the shajadas to gain barakat.

The shajada’s kadam in hotel has brought Tabahi and nothing else.

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Re: Mumbai terrorist attack

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:16 pm

it is a well-known fact that the beauticians from the posh beauty salons of the taj and oberoi etc are regularly called to saifee mahal and other opulent residences of the so-called shezaadis for attending to them. many years ago they used to even visit there, but not anymore.

so the shezada being in the taj hotel is nothing new. with all the millions of dollars they earn as haraam ni kamai, they enjoy a 7 star lavish lifestyle at our expense. while they engage the foolish and naive bohras in futile pursuits of maatam-e-hussain, they themselves engage in pleasures of the flesh..

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:00 am

NEW DELHI: The gang of terrorists who wreaked mayhem in Mumbai for three days were made to believe by their Lashkar bosses that they were not being sent on a suicide mission and that they would be coming back alive.

In a sensational disclosure made by Ajmal, the jihadi nabbed alive by Mumbai cops, the group had planned to sail out on Thursday. Their recruiters had even charted out the return route for them and stored it on the GPS device which they had used to navigate their way to the Mumbai shoreline.

This suggests that the terrorists were willing to undertake a mission which they knew would be very risky, but not necessarily suicidal.

Sources said that the bait of safe return must have been used by the recruiters to convince the wavering among the group to join the audacious plot against Mumbai.

Ajmal made another important disclosure: that all terrorists were trained in marine warfare along with the special course Daura-e-Shifa conducted by the Lashkar-e-Taiba in what at once transforms the nature of the planning from a routine terror strike and into a specialized raid by commandos.

Battle-hardened ATS officials are surprised by the details of the training the terrorists were put through before being despatched for the macabre mission. This was very different from a terrorist attack, and amounted to an offensive from the seam, said a source.

Ajmal has revealed the name of his fellow jihadis all Pakistani citizens as Abu Ali, Fahad, Omar, Shoaib, Umer, Abu Akasha, Ismail, Abdul Rahman (Bara) and Abdul Rahman (Chhota).

The account of Ajmal also strengthens the doubt of the complicity of powerful elements in the Pakistani establishment. According to him, the group set off on November 21 from an isolated creek near Karachi without the deadly cargo of arms and ammunition they were to use against the innocents in Mumbai. The group received arms and ammunition on board a large Pakistani vessel which picked them up the following day. The vessel, whose ownership is now the subject of an international probe, had four Pakistanis apart from the crew.

A day later, they came across an Indian-owned trawler, Kuber, which was promptly commandeered on the seas. Four of the fishermen who were on the trawler were killed, but its skipper, or tandel in fishermen lingo, Amarjit Singh, was forced to proceed towards India. Amarjit was killed the next day, and Ismail the terrorist who was killed at Girgaum Chowpaty took the wheel.

A trained sailor, Ismail used the GPS to reach Mumbai coast on November 26. The group, however, slowed down its advance as they had reached during the day time while the landing was planned after dusk. The group shifted to inflatable boats, before disembarking at Badhwar Park in Cuffe Parade.

From there, they mandated to kill indiscriminately, particularly white foreign tourists, and spare Muslims split up into five batches. Two of them Ismail and Ajmal took a taxi to Victoria Terminus. Three other batches of two each headed for Oberoi Hotel, Cafe Leopold and Nariman House. The remaining four went to Taj Hotel.

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Re: Mumbai terrorist attack

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:24 pm

This attack on India's commercial capital and in commercial areas especially at a time when the India for its economical policies was rising on the world scenario and whole world is going through economic crises seems to be a part of some bigger and sinister plot against India. Will Indian government, with the help of other countries ever know the real mater-mind behind these Jihadi Commandos?

Today after interrogation of one terrorist who is caught alive, Dawood Ibrahim’s name behind this attack has surfaced who still has his stakes in the economic prosperity of India.
Is it because the accused in Bombay Blast of 1993 have been hanged when no action has been taken against the culprits named by Justice Shri Krishna Commission in the Bombay riots after demolition of Babri Masjid and clean-chit given to Narendra Modi in Gujarat genocide?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:43 pm

S. Insaf wrote:Is it because the accused in Bombay Blast of 1993 have been hanged when no action has been taken against the culprits named by Justice Shri Krishna Commission in the Bombay riots after demolition of Babri Masjid and clean-chit given to Narendra Modi in Gujarat genocide?
Br.Insaf,

I fully agree to your views although one cannot deny that terrorism is bad, real bad as no one has the right to take someone else's life but in our endeavour to condemn terrorism it is sad to note that we never try to face the truth as to why terrorism is increasing within muslims.

Although we all condemn terrorism and rightly so but do we try to put ourselves in the person's place who has lost just everything for no fault of his. God forbid but if we are a witness to the horrific acts of crime carried out against our own brethren then just imagine what would be our reaction. If we see our pregnant wife's stomach being ripped open and the unborn baby thrown in fire then how would we feel ? If we see our own father's hands and legs being chopped off and his body being burnt then how would we feel ? If we see our sisters being stripped and trishuls being inserted in their private parts then how would we feel ? If we see our own innocent children being hacked to death then how would we feel ? If we see our houses and business establishments being reduced to ashes then how would we feel ?

These are the real nightmares that people have undergone through and these heinous acts were proudly owned up by people like Babu Bajrangi of Bajrang Dal and the killers of Ehsan Jaffri on camera live in a sting operation carried out by Tehelka. Scores of other activists of RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal and BJP have on camera proudly admitted of having commited these heinous crimes. They have admitted that they were given a free hand by Modi to unleash terror on muslims and even the police were instructed to allow them to go on with the rampage and not to take any action. These facts were flashed on television channels and were reported in print media by Tehelka magazine in their issue dated 3.11.2007. There are exhaustive reports by various human rights groups, NGO's and Amnesty International to prove these facts.

Now after openly knowing the identity of the criminals none of them have been booked and are roaming freely on the streets of gujarat as the BJP led govt is not interested in booking these culprits and even a few cases that were filed for namesake were delibarately weakened by the govt's own public prosecutor which too has been exposed in the sting operation.

Instead of showing remorse to the victims and condemning the BJP govt, the people of gujarat on the contrary brought the same govt to power in the next elections which proved that the majority community of gujarat actually wanted that atrocities should be commited on the muslims and that they showed that they were and still are on the side of the ones who want to crush the muslims.

Now seeing the attitude of the majority community towards them which victim would not develop hatred towards them. Seeing that there is absolutely no hope of justice for them how would a victim feel ? None of the islamic organsations whether it be a shia or a sunni have managed to put pressure on the govt and ensure that justice is delivered. None of the so called Islamic countries have managed to put diplomatic pressure on the Indian govt and see that the culprits are booked and punished and justice is delivered. Instead of seeing that justice is delivered we see people like burhanudin saab hobnobbing with the likes of Modi and presenting him a cheque of over Rs.1 crore. We see shias like Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi holding the post of general secratary of BJP and not a single shia ulema questioning him. We see sunnis like Shahnawaz Hussain accepting ministerial berths in BJP led govt and not a single sunni ulema questioning him.

Let us analyze the above facts from a victim's eyes and then question his actions. Having said so I still maintain that "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" and so killings are not at all justified under any circumstances. Muslims have been taught to practice 'sabar' and should trust in Allah swt because there is no injustice in His darbar. Allah surely delivers justice and punishes the criminals and it is Allah's commands that no one has got the right to take anyone else's life and no matter what but we have to have full faith in Allah swt and trust Him and His ways of delivering justice.

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Unread post by Fatwa Banker » Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:28 am

ghulam muhammed wrote: God forbid but if we are a witness to the horrific acts of crime carried out against our own brethren then just imagine what would be our reaction.
THESE ARE YOUR OWN BRETHREN you dumb ass ! Based on your apathy, you would continue to be a limp dick....

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:03 am

An interesting article in English Telegraph Daily:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 086308.ece

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Unread post by feelgud » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:43 am

Mumbai attack: Was Nariman House the terror hub?
The role that Nariman House is coming to play in this entire attack drama, is puzzling. Last night, residents ordered close to 100 kilograms of meat and other food, enough to feed an army or a bunch of people for twenty days. Shortly thereafter, the ten odd militants moved in, obviously, indicating that the food and meat was ordered, keeping their visit in mind, another cop added.
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2008/nov/28 ... or-hub.htm

The Assault on Mumbai By TARIQ ALI
The Deccan Mujahedeen, which claimed the outrage in an e-mail press release, is certainly a new name probably chosen for this single act. But speculation is rife. A senior Indian naval officer has claimed that the attackers (who arrived in a ship, the M V Alpha) were linked to Somali pirates, implying that this was a revenge attack for the Indian Navy’s successful if bloody action against pirates in the Arabian Gulf that led to heavy casualties some weeks ago.
http://www.counterpunch.org/tariq11272008.html

Mossad-CIA Connection To Mumbai Terror Attacks?

A Mossad/Israeli hand in the affair might seem far-fetched to some, but not so to others, who point to the role of Israeli agents in destabilizing a large number of countries as well as possibly operating within some radical Islamist movements, such as a group in Yemen styling itself ‘Islamic Jihad’, said to be responsible for the bombing of the American Embassy in Sanaa, and which is said to have close links with the Israeli intelligence. Some have raised the question if the Mossad or even the CIA might not be directly or otherwise instigating some disillusioned Muslim youth in India, Pakistan or elsewhere to take to terror by playing on Muslim grievances, operating through existing Islamist groups or spawning new ones for this purpose.

http://www.countercurrents.org/sikand291108.htm

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Colaba couple peeping out of balcony shot dead

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Unread post by Hozefa » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:13 am

Colaba couple peeping out of balcony shot dead

62-yr-old Salim Hararwala and his wife Maria (Mehzabin) had shifted to a friend’s place to be safe after bullets hit window panes of their first floor flat, but were killed by firing on the street below

By Geeta Desai
Posted On Friday, November 28, 2008
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The couple’s elder son Mohammed Hararwala (left) who narrowly escaped a bullet that grazed his head at his parents’ funeral


The couple’s elder son Mohammed/Abbas Hararwala (left) who narrowly escaped a bullet that grazed his head at his parents’ funeral


Had they not given into their curiosity, 62-year-old Salim Hararwala and his wife 55-year-old Maria (Mehzabin) , would have been alive today.

The couple, who lived on the first floor of Fardoon Court, near Colaba petrol pump, were in their home on Wednesday night when a bullet — fired by terrorists holed up in a building across the road — crashed their window. Fearing for their safety, the couple sneaked through a bylane, and moved to a friend’s flat a few buildings away.

Unable to bear the suspense of what was happening, the couple went into the balcony, accompanied by their son Mohammed. The terrorists were still firing and two bullets hit the couple in their heads, killing them instantly. Ironically, only minutes before his death, Salim had spoken to his cousin and assured them of their safety.

Mohammed, who was with his parents in the balcony at the time, narrowly escaped being hit. However, before he could realise what was happening, both his parents had collapsed.

Salim’s cousin Zahir Kera, who had come to St George Hospital, to claim the bodies, said, “I could not believe my ears when I heard the news. We were together at Hararwala’s Panvel factory throughout the day on Wednesday. I had just called up to check whether everything was okay, but then heard Mohammed and his younger brother Abbas screaming and crying.

“My heart started pounding and was not ready to listen what was to come,” Kera said, adding, “They were a very generous and lovable couple. It is great loss to both the children.”

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/article/2/2 ... -shot-dead

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Salim and Majabeen Hararwala

Couple killed in terrorist attacks in Mumbai, India


Remembering Majabeen Hararwala, and her husband Salim, who were among more than many people killed in terrorist attacks in Mumbai in India on 26 November, 2008.

The couple, both in their early 50s, had ventured outside to look for a safe haven after bullets smashed the windows of their flat.

As they came out on to the street between two hotels targeted by the terrorists, they and their 22-year-old son Abbas were singled out by the gunmen.

They ordered Abbas to stand aside and he watched as they opened fire on his parents, killing them both.

Yasmin Kapasi, a relative of Mrs Hararwala, from Oadby in Leicestershire, said: “It is such a shock to the system. You never imagine it will happen to you.

“They only came out of the flat to see if they could they find another hiding place from the gunmen.

“I only found out at lunchtime. A cousin in London called me and asked if we had heard the news. I had to tell my mother.”

Mrs Kapasi and her husband Jaffer, the director of Leicester Asian Business Association, last saw their relatives in London in 2007 when they brought their son over to study in Scotland.

Mr Kapasi said: “It’s a very terrible shock. I know that Mumbai has suffered before but this time it really is quite serious.

“The worst thing is that they have targeted the British and the Americans."

The funeral of the engineer and his wife took place on 27 November, 2008.

A British businessman, Andreas Liveras , was also killed in the attacks

http://www.lastingtribute.co.uk/tribute ... la/2958993

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:47 pm

Fatwa Banker wrote:THESE ARE YOUR OWN BRETHREN you dumb ass ! Based on your apathy, you would continue to be a limp dick....
Fatwa Banker,

Your response and your language shows that either I have touched your raw nerve or else 'neeche mirchi lag gayi' because that is your full synopsis of a post which tries to explain the pain of the victims who are languishing for justice. I hope you are not an RSS or VHP cadre having sympathy for the likes of Modi and Babu Bajrangi.

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Unread post by feelgud » Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:49 am

Hanif Shaikh as Hero of NSG commandos:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/hindi/regionalnews ... f_vv.shtml

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Unread post by Right » Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:45 am

Br Gulam Mohammed,

It is true that what happened in Gujarat wtih Muslims was very terriifc, but who was responsible for all this ?

Muslims has first started by burning the train in Godhra,burning live the Hindus who were coming from Ayodhya, and after their misdeed , the riots started in Gujarat.

Everywhere terror is started by Muslims and then they have to suffer for it.

See 9/11, what happened after that ?

America got a chance to attack on Afghanistan.

We muslims are nothing but big fools, and I dont feel asham to say the same.

There is no invention done by muslims, there are no big industries which has started by muslims, there is no contribution in the development of world by Muslims.

Only in Middle east because of Oil they are rich, but that also they are spending on "Shababs and Kababs" . See the eg of Saddam Hussein .

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Unread post by feelgud » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:08 am

No place for dead terrorists in 'sacred Mother India

Mumbai : The terrorists behind the Mumbai strike should not get a "final resting place anywhere in sacred Mother India" because Islam does not permit the killing of innocent people, a prominent Muslim organisation said Monday.
He said the authorities could dispose of the bodies in any manner, but not inter them on Indian land or Indian waters.
http://www.twocircles.net/2008dec01/no_ ... group.html

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:52 am

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"There is no invention done by muslims, there are no big industries which has started by muslims, there is no contribution in the development of world by Muslims"

To the above I will put a complete article of Muslim contributions to the world but in short
1-The most beautiful architeture in the World is Taj Mahal
2-India's nuclear brain is Dr. A. Kalam
3-Cipla Industries ( a world renown pharmaceutical R and D for HIV) is owned by Muslim
4-Wipro was started by Muslim and the current CEO is Muslim
5-THE BIGGEST MAFIA AND THE SMARTEST MAFIA IN WORLD IN NAME OF RELIGION IS OUR KOTHAR AND THEIR HENCHMEN
6 Al Waleed Talal, one of the richest man has the brain to start many industries and investment
7- Dr. Yunus of Garmin Bank won the Noble Price and is a Muslim from Bangladesh
Wait for another update to these achievements

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:37 pm

Here is the link for Muslims condemning terrorism
http://www.cair.com/AmericanMuslims/AntiTerrorism.aspx

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:42 pm

Here is the contribution of Muslims to the World as appeared in Jupiter courier Florida

January 11, 2006
Long before Europe and West gave women the right to own the property, it was seventh century when Islam gave women the right to own property, it took another 13 centuries before women in Europe and the West got the same rights. Before women in Europe and the West became involved in family business and became successful, Muslim women were already successful in this endeavor. Very few people know that wife of Prophet Muhammad was a very successful and powerful woman in Arabia.
Muslims and Arabs were the biggest contributors to modern day science and medicine. Egypt and Mesopotamia (now known as Iraq) was the cradle of literature, science and mathematics. In 1232 the sultan of Egypt presented Frederick, leader of the Crusade, with an astronomical clock that opened the doors of technology to Europe. It is Arab Muslims who invented algebra, trigonometry and other disciplines of modern mathematics. MASH (Mobile Army Surgical Hospital) and even the concept of the hospital came from early Muslim technocrats.
The romantic poems of Khayyam and Rumi are classical contributions Muslims made to modern literature. Muslims contribution toward architecture is unparalleled, from Asia to Europe; one only has to look at the marvel of Taj Mahal and the buildings and mosques in Cordoba and other parts of Spain.
The west has always looked upon Islamic world as people of dark ages and backward while Crusaders were looked upon as civilized and liberator. Crusaders had as much blood on their hands as well.
Islam has been associated with suicide bombing (in recent years, but) suicidal bombing (was not invented by) Islam.
Suicide is a desperate act of frustration, when one has lost all hopes and life has no meaning, one turn to these desperate acts. Most of suicidal mission takes place against foreign occupation of one's country. Occupation of a country is occupation and there is no way of sugar coating it. Whether it is the occupation of Palestinian land or our mission of bringing democracy to Iraq, still in the eyes of original inhabitants, it is occupation and suicidal mission is the cheapest and easiest way to fight the mighty armies of occupiers.
The West must find an honest answer to the problem.
American Muslims who migrated to the U.S. for freedom and harassments have now learned that the freedom they so much cherished is now taken away from them. Eavesdropping and monitoring of Muslim places of business and residence as well as their places of worship reminds them of the same tyranny they ran away from.
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Re: Mumbai terrorist attack

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:00 pm

"1001 Inventions: Discover the Muslim Heritage in Our World" is a new exhibition which had a nationwide tour in UK For more information, go to
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Re: Mumbai terrorist attack

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Unread post by Right » Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:08 am

Dear Omabharti,

But now Muslims are now only engaged in killing innocent people and making life of others miserable.

Now they are inventing new ways of destroying others property.