Qutbi Bohras

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think
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Re: Qutbi Bohra

Unread postby think » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:54 am

how come the bohras in yemen who know arabic refer to the dai as syedna while India ,Pakistan and Africa refer to him as aqa moula?
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Re: Qutbi Bohra

Unread postby humanbeing » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:45 am

zinger wrote:P.S., please dont call me dear. i know you mean well, but makes me uncomfortable :)


Duh ! Apologies for making you uncomfortable !
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Re: Qutbi Bohra

Unread postby seeker110 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:30 pm

zinger wrote:
P.S., please dont call me dear. i know you mean well, but makes me uncomfortable

When I see Mola's picture at places of worship, I get uncomfortable. Nothing can top that uncomfortable feeling.
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Re: Qutbi Bohra

Unread postby Al Zulfiqar » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:24 pm

what makes me most uncomfortable is when i see stupid abdes falling in 'love' with a cruel, self-centred dai and raising their posteriors to do sajdas to him, while he himself begs for prayers to prolong his miserable life...
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Re: Qutbi Bohra

Unread postby zinger » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:18 am

humanbeing wrote:
zinger wrote:P.S., please dont call me dear. i know you mean well, but makes me uncomfortable :)


Duh ! Apologies for making you uncomfortable !


Dude, it was a joke, no need to go all Duh! :!:

BTW, WRT to the other post of putting panja of the blood of the Qurbani animals on assets brought, i asked a couple of people. they said that the hand is a representation of Panjatan Pak. Which is why, we often see people wearing a Panja as a taaweez and on Tajias' in Muharram
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Re: Qutbi Bohra

Unread postby zinger » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:19 am

SBM wrote:
Zinger
im sure you have seen the pics and videos of Aqa Maulas 102nd saalgirah. you have seen the command he still has over the community, so yes, a very strong "OUR", "US" and "WE" :)

Zinger
I am sure you must have seen the pictures of people who surround Hilter-Sadam Hussain-Pol Pot,Idi Amin. They had more ADORING (sic) crowd than Syedna. I hope you get the point....................


i did, and it was pointless, blunt.
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Re: Qutbi Bohra

Unread postby humanbeing » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:24 am

zinger wrote: BTW, WRT to the other post of putting panja of the blood of the Qurbani animals on assets brought, i asked a couple of people. they said that the hand is a representation of Panjatan Pak. Which is why, we often see people wearing a Panja as a taaweez and on Tajias' in Muharram

Correct ! I too have heard this from few people ! then my next question was why Paak-Panjatan-Panja soak in animal blood ? Then again it was round-n-round. ‘Pratha che to kariye che’. The elders had no idea why it is done !
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Re: Qutbi Bohra

Unread postby asad » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:56 am

humanbeing wrote:
zinger wrote: BTW, WRT to the other post of putting panja of the blood of the Qurbani animals on assets brought, i asked a couple of people. they said that the hand is a representation of Panjatan Pak. Which is why, we often see people wearing a Panja as a taaweez and on Tajias' in Muharram

Correct ! I too have heard this from few people ! then my next question was why Paak-Panjatan-Panja soak in animal blood ? Then again it was round-n-round. ‘Pratha che to kariye che’. The elders had no idea why it is done !


My father is a quite reasonable man but when i asked him the logic behind putting blood marks of zabihat animal on young ones than he said we follow what Moula does, so yatha raja tatha praja, subjects do as the king does.

regarding wearing a silver panja necklace than this tradition is not very common and if you see people wearing it than they have copied it from their shia ithna ashari brothers who have this custom and its very common among them.
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Re: Qutbi Bohra

Unread postby zinger » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:48 am

humanbeing wrote:
zinger wrote: BTW, WRT to the other post of putting panja of the blood of the Qurbani animals on assets brought, i asked a couple of people. they said that the hand is a representation of Panjatan Pak. Which is why, we often see people wearing a Panja as a taaweez and on Tajias' in Muharram

Correct ! I too have heard this from few people ! then my next question was why Paak-Panjatan-Panja soak in animal blood ? Then again it was round-n-round. ‘Pratha che to kariye che’. The elders had no idea why it is done !


:lol:
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Re: Qutbi Bohra

Unread postby zinger » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:49 am

asad wrote:
humanbeing wrote:
zinger wrote: BTW, WRT to the other post of putting panja of the blood of the Qurbani animals on assets brought, i asked a couple of people. they said that the hand is a representation of Panjatan Pak. Which is why, we often see people wearing a Panja as a taaweez and on Tajias' in Muharram

Correct ! I too have heard this from few people ! then my next question was why Paak-Panjatan-Panja soak in animal blood ? Then again it was round-n-round. ‘Pratha che to kariye che’. The elders had no idea why it is done !


My father is a quite reasonable man but when i asked him the logic behind putting blood marks of zabihat animal on young ones than he said we follow what Moula does, so yatha raja tatha praja, subjects do as the king does.

regarding wearing a silver panja necklace than this tradition is not very common and if you see people wearing it than they have copied it from their shia ithna ashari brothers who have this custom and its very common among them.



now that you mention it, you're right, i dont see it happening much now. it used to be quite common around 20-25 years ago
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LATEST NEWS IS OUT DEAL FINALISED

Unread postby askz » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:52 pm

Received this news-


FINALLY, DAWAT E HADIYAH'S IS DIVIDED IN TWO


Based on the recent Saify Mahal news, Estates of the Dawat E Hadiyah is being divided in two parts, one for Aqa moula and Second for Mazon Saheb Khozema Bhaisaheb.



Saify Mahal and Badri Mahal will be given to Khozema Bhai Saheb.
The new Burhani Mahal (being bought from Cama family in 108-crores) will become the place for Aqa Moula and Shezadas in coming months.
Badri Mahal is being renovated removing all offices to hand over to Mazoon Saheb in few months.


Why this is being done?



Reason is that the Late Sayedna Taher Safuddin Saheb had promised in writing to make Khozema Bhai Saheb the 53rd Daiul Mutlaq.
Becuase of this written document, Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin Saheb is unable to do NUS to any one else.
He was waiting for the early death of Khozema Saheb (cancer), but it appears that Khozema Saheb may survive longer than the Sayedna and further wait may not help any one.


The power struggle was going on for the last many years and was becoming severe in the last few years.
Both parties were ready for the show down but some how compromise formula was found out and both parties agreed to the solution in writing.


The Vasiyat of Late Sayedna was bought over and sold in Crores of rupees.
wise_guy
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Re: LATEST NEWS IS OUT DEAL FINALISED

Unread postby wise_guy » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:28 pm

Aaj ki baasi khabar... Aaj ki baasi khabar... 1 rupay me...
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Re: LATEST NEWS IS OUT DEAL FINALISED

Unread postby wise_guy » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:32 pm

Btw.. Is this confirmed news or just rumors?

askz wrote:Received this news-


FINALLY, DAWAT E HADIYAH'S IS DIVIDED IN TWO


Based on the recent Saify Mahal news, Estates of the Dawat E Hadiyah is being divided in two parts, one for Aqa moula and Second for Mazon Saheb Khozema Bhaisaheb.



Saify Mahal and Badri Mahal will be given to Khozema Bhai Saheb.
The new Burhani Mahal (being bought from Cama family in 108-crores) will become the place for Aqa Moula and Shezadas in coming months.
Badri Mahal is being renovated removing all offices to hand over to Mazoon Saheb in few months.


Why this is being done?



Reason is that the Late Sayedna Taher Safuddin Saheb had promised in writing to make Khozema Bhai Saheb the 53rd Daiul Mutlaq.
Becuase of this written document, Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin Saheb is unable to do NUS to any one else.
He was waiting for the early death of Khozema Saheb (cancer), but it appears that Khozema Saheb may survive longer than the Sayedna and further wait may not help any one.


The power struggle was going on for the last many years and was becoming severe in the last few years.
Both parties were ready for the show down but some how compromise formula was found out and both parties agreed to the solution in writing.


The Vasiyat of Late Sayedna was bought over and sold in Crores of rupees.
zinger
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Re: LATEST NEWS IS OUT DEAL FINALISED

Unread postby zinger » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:37 am

wise_guy wrote:Aaj ki baasi khabar... Aaj ki baasi khabar... 1 rupay me...



haa haa haaa :lol:
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Re: Qutbi Bohras

Unread postby QutbiBohra » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:23 am

MUMBAI: A suburban developer has paid a record price of Rs 350 crore for a Nepean Sea bungalow property. Runwal Group, which has projects largely in the eastern suburbs, bought Nepean Grange , the two-storey bungalow constructed in 1918, from the Kapadia family. The transaction was finally concluded a few days ago after months of negotiations, TOI has learnt. Property sources said this could probably be the highest price paid for a bungalow in the city. The 2,048 sq m land also has an outhouse, servants' quarters and a car park. TNN Jun 24, 2011, 05.33am IST
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Re: Qutbi Bohras

Unread postby QutbiBohra » Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:59 am

Hello every one,
Now it is time to show our support to Qutbi Bohra.

There is a reference in kitaab that as there are Dai, Mazoon and Mukasir in which it reflects that each dai name his successor and there after.
Example: Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (50th dai) when he died...he pronounced his successors as Syedna Taher Saifuddin and Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin. In same manner Syedna Taher Saifuddin pronounced two named Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin and Khuzaima Qutbuddin.

Mazoon saheb is now seeking for support. He has already started Dawat in this Ramazan from Secundrabad.
Please come forward and show your support.

Mazoon saheb will provide all kind of financial support if required.

Say proudly "We are Qutbi"
shabbir4u
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Re: Qutbi Bohras

Unread postby shabbir4u » Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:50 am

QutbiBohra wrote:Hello every one,
Now it is time to show our support to Qutbi Bohra.

There is a reference in kitaab that as there are Dai, Mazoon and Mukasir in which it reflects that each dai name his successor and there after.
Example: Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (50th dai) when he died...he pronounced his successors as Syedna Taher Saifuddin and Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin. In same manner Syedna Taher Saifuddin pronounced two named Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin and Khuzaima Qutbuddin.

Mazoon saheb is now seeking for support. He has already started Dawat in this Ramazan from Secundrabad.
Please come forward and show your support.

Mazoon saheb will provide all kind of financial support if required.

Say proudly "We are Qutbi"



But where is Mazoon saheb and his family.

Where we can contact him.
think
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Re: Qutbi Bohras

Unread postby think » Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:15 pm

he is afraid of his life. baite aali and baite zaine is a big power struggle
Al Fateh
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Re: Qutbi Bohras

Unread postby Al Fateh » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:53 am

QutbiBohra wrote:Hello every one,
Now it is time to show our support to Qutbi Bohra.

There is a reference in kitaab that as there are Dai, Mazoon and Mukasir in which it reflects that each dai name his successor and there after.
Example: Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (50th dai) when he died...he pronounced his successors as Syedna Taher Saifuddin and Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin. In same manner Syedna Taher Saifuddin pronounced two named Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin and Khuzaima Qutbuddin.

Mazoon saheb is now seeking for support. He has already started Dawat in this Ramazan from Secundrabad.
Please come forward and show your support.

Mazoon saheb will provide all kind of financial support if required.

Say proudly "We are Qutbi"



I will not support any one unless there is a fair election and most suitable candidates gets the thrown of a leader, and even then he has to remain humble and just a former leader of community affairs.
AMAFHH
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Re: Qutbi Bohras

Unread postby AMAFHH » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:17 am

QutbiBohra wrote:Hello every one,
Now it is time to show our support to Qutbi Bohra.

There is a reference in kitaab that as there are Dai, Mazoon and Mukasir in which it reflects that each dai name his successor and there after.
Example: Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (50th dai) when he died...he pronounced his successors as Syedna Taher Saifuddin and Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin. In same manner Syedna Taher Saifuddin pronounced two named Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin and Khuzaima Qutbuddin.

Mazoon saheb is now seeking for support. He has already started Dawat in this Ramazan from Secundrabad.
Please come forward and show your support.

Mazoon saheb will provide all kind of financial support if required.

Say proudly "We are Qutbi"


Brother
can we have some more Proof about what you have mentioned above regarding the Mazoon e dawat
progticide
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Re: Qutbi Bohras

Unread postby progticide » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:53 am

QutbiBohra wrote:Hello every one,
Now it is time to show our support to Qutbi Bohra.

There is a reference in kitaab that as there are Dai, Mazoon and Mukasir in which it reflects that each dai name his successor and there after.
Example: Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (50th dai) when he died...he pronounced his successors as Syedna Taher Saifuddin and Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin.


Read Carefully and educate yourself:

49th Dai al Mutlaq: Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin
50th Dai al Mutlaq: Syedna Abdullah Badruddin
51st Dai-al Mutlaq: Syedna Taher Saifuddin
52nd Dai al Mutlaq: Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin (TUS)
Mansoos of the 52nd Dai al Mutlaq: Syedi Aali Qadr Mufaddal Saifuddin (TUS)


Admin: Request you to lock this topic since there is no factual, authentic or relevant information being shared on this thread and it is simply being used for rumour-mongering and unintelligible gossip.
shabbir4u
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Re: Qutbi Bohras

Unread postby shabbir4u » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:05 pm

Al Fateh wrote:
QutbiBohra wrote:Hello every one,
Now it is time to show our support to Qutbi Bohra.

There is a reference in kitaab that as there are Dai, Mazoon and Mukasir in which it reflects that each dai name his successor and there after.
Example: Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (50th dai) when he died...he pronounced his successors as Syedna Taher Saifuddin and Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin. In same manner Syedna Taher Saifuddin pronounced two named Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin and Khuzaima Qutbuddin.

Mazoon saheb is now seeking for support. He has already started Dawat in this Ramazan from Secundrabad.
Please come forward and show your support.

Mazoon saheb will provide all kind of financial support if required.

Say proudly "We are Qutbi"



I will not support any one unless there is a fair election and most suitable candidates gets the thrown of a leader, and even then he has to remain humble and just a former leader of community affairs.


We dont need your support. First support your self. A person who cannot support himself how he can support another one how he can elect. Humble request To progressive and their support pls support this person. :) :mrgreen: :P

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