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by Arif
Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:05 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

Humsafar, This was a good post and I give you the credit for it. At last I have seen someone talking logically about reform movement ever since I started asking questions. However, saying that it has answered each and every question that I had in mind or hind sight might be difficult. The best appro...
by Arif
Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:53 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

Here is the URL for the same:

http://www.dawoodi-bohras.com/cgi-bin/U ... 1;t=002194

You will find AZ quoting this. By blaming at least you have admitted that so called reformists do use foul language.
by Arif
Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:51 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- there is a rather crude saying back in mumbai, "jab ga^^^ lagi phatne, to khairat lagi batne". so here you go again, lecturing everyone about foul language and right away you come back with one OB this...
by Arif
Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:37 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

OB,

For your other posts read my reply to Humsafar. It applies to you as well.
by Arif
Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:34 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

B]AGAIN THAT IS FOUL LANGUAGE NOT FOWL AND IT IS KOTHRIS WHO USE THAT LANGUAGE MORE THAN ANYONE, CHECK POSTS BY PIG/GULP/TB AND MANY MORE[/B] OB... Please read below.. there is a rather crude saying back in mumbai, "jab ga^^^ lagi phatne, to khairat lagi batne". By AZ. Read http://www.daw...
by Arif
Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:41 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

And your ruse about spell check is really lame Dear Humsafar, I made a spelling mistake in writing "Jannat". Which you corrected.. That's generally done by a spell checker. Spell checker is a library. You can add new words to it. They can be urdu words written in English or even Gujarati ...
by Arif
Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:42 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

Now you're moving the goal posts. What goal post you are talking about??? ;) Please don't be so hard on yourself, a little humour and some thought for food can't be all that bad. This is the biggest understatement made on this site. I thought this site was always for fun and entertainment. Once in ...
by Arif
Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:58 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

Safiuddin, If you are not bothered about my dissapointment why did you bother to reply to my post. Anyways I do not want to waste my time on you. Plan 1: Do nothing, just sit and watch. Because nothing can be done. Plan 2: Get up, protest and try to make the community better. Mr.Amerge, Which plan d...
by Arif
Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:15 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: any news of bohris in kenya??
Replies: 41
Views: 6471

Re: any news of bohris in kenya??

so now that we are on the same page, how do u and that other guy with 2 masters degrees and the big mouth, propose to bring about a change in this brainwashed community? Hey AZ the whole site knows who has a big mouth. BTW: What happened? You chickened out from the other thread after I asked some s...
by Arif
Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:02 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sayedeena Addresses To All Bohra
Replies: 30
Views: 5131

Re: Sayedeena Addresses To All Bohra

Remembering Hussain's martyrdom the way bohras do and shias do differ majorly. Reasons why slowly it is becoming objectionable to most of the modern bohras are - Namaaz put off late due to extended sessions of Vaiz. Shias never even delay their namaaz by a minute during muharram. - chanting nohas a...
by Arif
Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:18 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

Safiuddin, I am really trying hard to imagine you as one of the brave Soldiers of Husain's army fighting against yazid. But please believe me that everytime I try to do that you thourougly dissappoint me. Can you please tell us about your achievements as a reformist? Do you even have the balls to co...
by Arif
Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:58 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sayedeena Addresses To All Bohra
Replies: 30
Views: 5131

Re: Sayedeena Addresses To All Bohra

Zeal, Mourning can be done without Maatam. The most important thing is to remember the great sacrifice and appreciate it. Comparing bohras and shias can be done in a seperate thread. This thread talks about Martyrs and Martyrdom. So lets stick to that.. As long as muslims understand the values laid ...
by Arif
Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:50 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sayedeena Addresses To All Bohra
Replies: 30
Views: 5131

Re: Sayedeena Addresses To All Bohra

History is evident of many brave men who laid down their life for a cause... If we start mourning each and every matyrs...I am sure we can do nothing else...just keep mourning....lol So... come out of past.. past is past!! It has nothing to do with the present.. In my opinion... Muharram should not...
by Arif
Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:16 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sayedeena Addresses To All Bohra
Replies: 30
Views: 5131

Re: Sayedeena Addresses To All Bohra

Arif, I agree , people like Dawood have no respect
I am talking about like_minded and not Dawood.
by Arif
Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:13 pm
Forum: Islam Today
Topic: Lessons from the Martyrdom of Imam Hussain.
Replies: 0
Views: 336

Lessons from the Martyrdom of Imam Hussain.

A. Islam is not a religion of compromise. Living with peace with forces of oppression is wrong. If Imam Hussain had pledged allegiance to a tyrant ruler, he could have saved his neck, and would have most likely given a high post by the Caliph who would have allowed him to do his prayer, fasting, and...
by Arif
Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:07 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: Sayedeena Addresses To All Bohra
Replies: 30
Views: 5131

Re: Sayedeena Addresses To All Bohra

This bohra community is gone to dogs... they want a living bhagwan..and they've got one!!! they wouldnt mind if their bhagwan screws the day light outta them... all in the name of religion and fairy tales.. miracles and fuc%%%%g crap... Hey dude... Looks like someone pulled you out from your cage w...
by Arif
Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:45 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

AZ, Your big post directed towards me again just shows your frustration. But it does not give me any idea of any bravery that you have shown against Kothar or Syedna. if you can do even 1% of what the brave and heroic reformists have been doing, I am more interested in knowing what you have done so ...
by Arif
Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:31 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

Hey Guys! I m back.. I went for a short vacation. Happy new year to you all (both English and our Islamic) and also, as they say in Lisane-Daawat "Aap saglaa mumeneen ne pehli raat ni ghani ghani mubarakbaad". BTW: 1) Kothar is corrupt.. Agreed 2) Reformits have tried to fight corruption i...
by Arif
Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:32 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

You reek ingnorance about the reform movement that begin in 1970s I have read all the stuff on this site. The Chanda Bhai gulla case etc. So believe me I have done my homework. But just brooding on the past does not make any sense. I am more interested in knowing the future plans. Not just in terms...
by Arif
Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:38 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

Nimble, huh Aarif? Thank you - that's a compliment!
Oh you are most welcome sir. See how decent I am. ;)
by Arif
Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:36 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

Don't evade the question. I have asked a question which is "How about writing an open letter to Syedna with your actual details." Sorry I forgot to put a ? in the end. I am sooo Sorry. It seems that you have no respect for the participants on this forum, Respect is mutual.. How about you ...
by Arif
Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:35 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

Besides a letter, what would you, Aarif, suggest? How would you propose one bring about reforms? I'd be most interested to hear your comments, O Educated One. Oh you are asking how to bring about reforms. The way you find spelling and grammar mistakes in my posts make me believe that you are some l...
by Arif
Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:53 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

Bohra dawat has rached this woeful state just because people did't ask questions. I agree with you on that but not completely. Yes people definitely need to ask questions. But just asking questions make no sense. Look at our Indian goverment. We have the majority and opposition. The opposition asks...
by Arif
Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:36 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The zulm of shezada saifuddin and his family members on
Replies: 12
Views: 2611

Re: The zulm of shezada saifuddin and his family members on

Asking you a question = supporting your opponent?? Asking irrelevant and out of context questions for the heck of it make no sense. Which batch of surat madarssa are you a pass out? You will be better off asking this question to Gulf and company. BTW: Anybody who speaks anything against you general...
by Arif
Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:17 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The zulm of shezada saifuddin and his family members on
Replies: 12
Views: 2611

Re: The zulm of shezada saifuddin and his family members on

Gee, I wonder why?
Please do not waste your time in "trying" to wonder. Wondering also need brains ;)
by Arif
Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:55 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The zulm of shezada saifuddin and his family members on
Replies: 12
Views: 2611

Re: The zulm of shezada saifuddin and his family members on

Are you sure you haven't made generic statements about 1.2 million bohras anywhere on this board? Tahir, Whenever I have made any generic statement its primarily on the image of our community to the outside world. I have never said anything like "all bohris are this or that" Also, you sup...
by Arif
Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:48 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

You have to answer that question since it was you who insisted that bohras are achievers as compared to other muslims. I simply asked facts. Others didn't claim anything to start with so why should you ask? Abbas Alibhai Burmawalla and Mastan Alibhai Burmawalla are bohris Also, someone has told me ...
by Arif
Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:12 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: The zulm of shezada saifuddin and his family members on
Replies: 12
Views: 2611

Re: The zulm of shezada saifuddin and his family members on

People do not have any self respect in the Bohris. They do things which a person with even a little bit of self respect will hesitate. Bohris are the biggest hypocrites you will come across. Mohammed the lie spreader. There are around 1.2 million bohris in the world. To make a generic statement lik...
by Arif
Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:02 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

sorry "joing them... " should spell "joining them" :D :D
by Arif
Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:00 pm
Forum: Bohras and Reform
Topic: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO
Replies: 163
Views: 22914

Re: GULF-PIG-TB JAWAB DO

there are lot of people, who have done silently for the community, including ones, who are on this forum. For example??? Your question is not valid, Beacuse your addressees are not the one, who claim to guide and lead people, you can not ask non claiment to prove the claim A/C: I have observed ever...