The zulm of shezada saifuddin and his family members on

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reformist1000
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The zulm of shezada saifuddin and his family members on

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Unread post by reformist1000 » Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:49 pm

This is a story of an
ordinary mumin khidmat guzar and the zulm on him in the name khidmat.
This poor
guy finished his studies in jamea 3 years ago he was then told to go to
yemen
for further studies he being an ordinary man accepted what he was given
and
started his preparation, but as his financial condition was weak and
with
problems at home his going got a bit delayed and so this was taken as a
reason
that he doesn’t want to go to yemen, he begged for mercy but there
was none and
he was made to sit at home for 8 months.

After that he was called to
Mumbai and told to work in Ashara office
he did that willing just for the sake of khidmat , he was made to do
all
kinds of work and he did them all just to avoid the wrath of his bosses
slowly
slowly they were pleased by his slavery and brought him in kothar, but
never
spared the thought about where he lived where he stayed what he ate and
what
about his family.

Then suddednly one day this office closed down, no
one came to his help all his bosses disappeared in their den he was
told to
fetch some work for himself, his wife being pregnant but no one for
help.

Then one day he was called by
another department and was told that he had to work here for 3 months ,
his
bosses thought the guy they had brought was working for someone else
they
couldn’t digest this fact so again called him in their department ,
this poor
guy had no choice but to oblige to his bosses
he started working there again without no choice , but he felt his
masters had mercy in there hearts for him so requested them that he may
be
shifted to the earlier department so that he can do khidmat to its full
potential his request was met by anger
wrath and cruelty and they have packed
him to cairo far away from his family wife and child.

All this has been done to him
only because he is an ordinary man and not one who is financial and
powerfully
influential.

This is the height of zulm is
their any justice in this world is their any mercy in shezada heart and
his
family may god help this poor ordinary mumin . this message is my help
for him
all I can do for him is prayers may god help him and if you can do
anything to
help him please do it too.
send in ur replies and request for help at the following ids
jsharaf@gmail.com,mdcurrim@gmail.com,tahamsaifuddin@gmail.com,badruljamalibs@gmail.com

anajmi
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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Dec 25, 2007 5:34 pm

Over here I would say that about 90% of the fault lies with the ordinary mumin khidmat guzaar. If he really wants to be a khidmat guzaar, then he should stop complaining about how he is being treated. Or, he can stop being a khidmat guzaar and show his middle finger to the Syedna. But an ordinary mumin is too much of a coward to do something like that.

mohammed_truthseeker
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Unread post by mohammed_truthseeker » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:12 am

People do not have any self respect in the Bohris. They do things which a person with even a little bit of self respect will hesitate. Bohris are the biggest hypocrites you will come across.

Al Zulfiqar
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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:21 am

didnt u know that we are converts from the vaniya's? we negotiate, never confront!

as for hypocrisy, there is a very crude saying in bambaiya hindi,"we bohras are the type of people, jo gaa## bhi marwate hai, or uparse lu## ka kiraya bhi detey hai!"

my father used to always say on slow and difficult days in our retail business, "alas, that we had a business like the kothar, where every customer who walks in, we slap him hard first and then he still gladly gives us his money!"

Arif
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Unread post by Arif » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:12 pm

People do not have any self respect in the Bohris. They do things which a person with even a little bit of self respect will hesitate. Bohris are the biggest hypocrites you will come across.
Mohammed the lie spreader. There are around 1.2 million bohris in the world. To make a generic statement like this you need to know all of them personally and that too very well. Now that clarifies one thing about you for sure. You are a cheap lier. So how about a change in name from truthseeker to lie-spreader ;)

tahir
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Unread post by tahir » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:07 am

Aarif,
Are you sure you haven't made generic statements about 1.2 million bohras anywhere on this board?

Arif
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Unread post by Arif » Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:55 pm

Are you sure you haven't made generic statements about 1.2 million bohras anywhere on this board?
Tahir,

Whenever I have made any generic statement its primarily on the image of our community to the outside world. I have never said anything like "all bohris are this or that"

Also, you supporting this dude means that you accept whatever he is saying which is "People do not have any self respect in the Bohris. They do things which a person with even a little bit of self respect will hesitate. Bohris are the biggest hypocrites you will come across. "

Now since, you call yourself a dawoodi bohra you are admitting that you have these qualities. ;)

I do not agree with this and hence wrote that.

Safiuddin
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Unread post by Safiuddin » Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:39 pm

So I guess if Aarif The Educated doesn't like how anyone responds to his posts, then he uses his master's degrees to invent clever versions of people's names.

This person seems to lash out all the time.

Gee, I wonder why?

Arif
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Unread post by Arif » Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:17 pm

Gee, I wonder why?
Please do not waste your time in "trying" to wonder. Wondering also need brains ;)

tahir
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Unread post by tahir » Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:58 pm

Originally posted by Aarif:

Also, you supporting this dude means that you accept whatever he is saying which is "People do not have any self respect in the Bohris.
Asking you a question = supporting your opponent??

Which batch of surat madarssa are you a pass out?

Arif
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Unread post by Arif » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:36 pm

Asking you a question = supporting your opponent??
Asking irrelevant and out of context questions for the heck of it make no sense.
Which batch of surat madarssa are you a pass out?
You will be better off asking this question to Gulf and company.

BTW: Anybody who speaks anything against you generally ends up as a paasout from Surat Madressa. It seems you are quite attached to that place or maybe you did not even manage to passout from there :o

That's why I was saying in the other thread that the phrase "A ship in a harbour is safe, but that is not what ships are for.
~ John A. Shedd. " is better applicable to you then anyone else.

like_minded
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Unread post by like_minded » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:58 am

Originally posted by anajmi:
Over here I would say that about 90% of the fault lies with the ordinary mumin khidmat guzaar. If he really wants to be a khidmat guzaar, then he should stop complaining about how he is being treated. Or, he can stop being a khidmat guzaar and show his middle finger to the Syedna. But an ordinary mumin is too much of a coward to do something like that.
I fully agree with anajmi...

Convince the khidmat guzaars that there is no barakat in return for their khidmat...and see for yourself these khidmat guzaars vanishing in thin air!!!

Where Khidmat is not done as a duty but with an intention of getting something in return... is not khidmat at all, these khidmat guzaars are bonded slaves of syedna and kothar.. and nothing more.

Gulf
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Unread post by Gulf » Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:07 pm

Originally posted by Aarif:
You will be better off asking this question to Gulf and company.
Thank you sir, for giving me that honor ;)