I don't live in Baroda bro, what do the Alavis say about DBs?white_pigeon wrote:This is ridiculous. Anyone who lives in Baroda would know what Alavi's talk about Dawoodi Bohras.
answer is hypocrisy and this is the biggest concern I always had with thiss bohras jamaatmonsuier74 wrote:This is my first post to this forum though i have been reading the posts for quite some time.
Few days back during the Khatmul Quran majlis they have during the evening the Amil was cursing the Alavi Bohras and called them "NAPAK" apart from the regular mind boggling Bayans.
Now I see a picture with Syedna Muffadal Saifudding sharing a seat with the Alavi bohras Mansoos.
what explanation do I get from this?
Alavi bohras refer to the Dawoodi's as "NAPAK" too. So NAPAK NAPAK bhai bhai.Few days back during the Khatmul Quran majlis they have during the evening the Amil was cursing the Alavi Bohras and called them "NAPAK" apart from the regular mind boggling Bayans.
The irony of this situation is that Muffys own grandsons dont believe that he is the DAI.think wrote:heard that Mr. Mufaddal's grand children have gone away with their mothers. everyone here in the states and may be elsewhere are asked to recite surah yousuf for the safe return of the wives of his sons.
If this is true then it is apparent the wives of MR. Mufaddals sons do not believe in their grand father Mr. Mufaddal as their new Dai.
They forgot to screen the movie "Main Azaad Hoon" that day.white_pigeon wrote:The irony of this situation is that Muffys own grandsons dont believe that he is the DAI.think wrote:heard that Mr. Mufaddal's grand children have gone away with their mothers. everyone here in the states and may be elsewhere are asked to recite surah yousuf for the safe return of the wives of his sons.
If this is true then it is apparent the wives of MR. Mufaddals sons do not believe in their grand father Mr. Mufaddal as their new Dai.
But
Public is called to Azad Maiden and sit outside in the heat singing his praises.
Fakhruddinsuratwala wrote:Fellow Bohras,
I strongly denounce the use of abusive and foul language on this forum. If we are to use such a language than what is the difference between us and the so called facist sitting in Badri and Safiee Mahal as well as in Thane. We also hav to understand that there are certain outsiders (NON BOHRAS) on this forum who talk absolutely nonsense. I might not be scholer in Islam but few things I would quote from Quran on Women. This is my understand and please correct me If I am wrong anywhere (or may be entirely)
2:228 "(Women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them."
My interpretation - Women can do almost everything what Men can do and should be allowed if she stays within the prescribed rules of Islam which is the she maintains her clothing according to Islam, prays rgularly on time, doesnt disturb the family to beyong extent, her husband or father allows it and maintain her dignity and doesnt interact with men unneccessarily.
33:32-33 "O ye wives of the Prophet! Ye are not like any other women. ... Stay in your houses."
My Interpretation - So other women who have the requirement and necessity to support the family can work but she has to abide by the principle of Islam. Restriction was very strict on the wives of the Prophet S.A.W
33:59 "O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad)."
My interpretation - Here also restriction was on travelling without a Mehram and following to maintaining the dignity of themselves than they can work or do things that helps the family but travelling as prescribed she has to have mehram.
"For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's praise, for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward." [Noble Quran 33:35]
My Interpretation - All equal rights on everything...talking is about maintaining the chastity and no restrictions mentioned.
"They (your wives) are your garment and you are a garment for them." [Noble Quran 2:187]
My Interpretation - Again equality is what is mentioned.
I am sure there are other several place where Quran mentioned that Women should stay in thier houses or homes. But at the same time there is a clear indication that Islam doesnt restrict Women to work and climb the corporate ladder, provided women are willing to maintain thier dignity as prescribed in Quran and explained by Rasullillah.
(Corrections will be appreciated)
They do look a bit drunk. Hangover perhaps from the night before"s whiskey and rum.Sujud wrote:Hey so will they namaazi the flowers later or namaazi the complete roza ?
Can I ask why is there no LANNAT on his own grandsons who left him?alam wrote:The Elitist Delusional Hypocritical campaign from Syedna Mufaddal saifuddin:
In public - issue baraat to Khuzaima Qutbuddin
In secret circles - pray for Mufaddal Saifuddin's own grandchildren safe return.
Mufaddal Saifuddin's new Manifesto: destroy other mumineens families. Please pray for mine . . . Oops,
Correction: for those in mine who still love me (Mufaddal's son Taha)..
ALLAH IS THE Only Khow it all.
Akhtiar Wahid wrote:He should atleast acknowledge 18 deaths and tell people to read surah e yaseen....he is so pathetic!
I asked Bohra by birth...very humbly what makes you say the my comments smells of chauvinismBohra_by_birth wrote:Your interpretation reeks of chauvinism!Fakhruddinsuratwala wrote:Fellow Bohras,
I strongly denounce the use of abusive and foul language on this forum. If we are to use such a language than what is the difference between us and the so called facist sitting in Badri and Safiee Mahal as well as in Thane. We also hav to understand that there are certain outsiders (NON BOHRAS) on this forum who talk absolutely nonsense. I might not be scholer in Islam but few things I would quote from Quran on Women. This is my understand and please correct me If I am wrong anywhere (or may be entirely)
2:228 "(Women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them."
My interpretation - Women can do almost everything what Men can do and should be allowed if she stays within the prescribed rules of Islam which is the she maintains her clothing according to Islam, prays rgularly on time, doesnt disturb the family to beyong extent, her husband or father allows it and maintain her dignity and doesnt interact with men unneccessarily.
33:32-33 "O ye wives of the Prophet! Ye are not like any other women. ... Stay in your houses."
My Interpretation - So other women who have the requirement and necessity to support the family can work but she has to abide by the principle of Islam. Restriction was very strict on the wives of the Prophet S.A.W
33:59 "O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad)."
My interpretation - Here also restriction was on travelling without a Mehram and following to maintaining the dignity of themselves than they can work or do things that helps the family but travelling as prescribed she has to have mehram.
"For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's praise, for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward." [Noble Quran 33:35]
My Interpretation - All equal rights on everything...talking is about maintaining the chastity and no restrictions mentioned.
"They (your wives) are your garment and you are a garment for them." [Noble Quran 2:187]
My Interpretation - Again equality is what is mentioned.
I am sure there are other several place where Quran mentioned that Women should stay in thier houses or homes. But at the same time there is a clear indication that Islam doesnt restrict Women to work and climb the corporate ladder, provided women are willing to maintain thier dignity as prescribed in Quran and explained by Rasullillah.
(Corrections will be appreciated)
Ina Lilahe Wa Inna Ellahe Rajeoon. Allah un kay ghar walo ko sabr dey. AmeenDB- MUMBAIKAR wrote:Akhtiar Wahid wrote:He should atleast acknowledge 18 deaths and tell people to read surah e yaseen....he is so pathetic!
Akhtiar.. I lost my best friend in the stampede near saifee mahal and for next 3 days not a single official from the so called kothar bothered to inquire or even give condolence to the bereaved family. My friend was not going but was forced by other family members and hesistatingly went to meet his death or should we call it a mass murder by the bloody kothaar.... and for what ? .. just to catch the last glimpse of the body of SMB...... Nobody is spared from death even if we were singing "sada rehjo baaki" day in and day out for the dai, he died... allha ta'ala has not given privelege of living till eternity to any human being... even the Aamil of the area was treating this "murder" like any other common death....although a family lost its sole breadwinner.. nobody till date has cared for this... its a shame and its a bigger shame to call ourselves dawoodi bohra after this incident... so many innocent lives lost in this madness in the name of stupid religion....