Future of Dawoodi Bohras
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More interesting than the kids, is the poster behind More-la Muffy (LA). I can't read all the lines as the picture is cut off, but what I can read:
The level of brainwashing and manipulation of religion by these thug Ibili "leader" is amazing. This is what they teach kids from a young age, so they grow up never to question this thug leader.
- - More-la is Master of all "uomoor", i.e. religious things
- More-la is Master of "maal and malakat" i.e. money and state
- More-la is Master of "haar cheeze", i.e, of everything
The level of brainwashing and manipulation of religion by these thug Ibili "leader" is amazing. This is what they teach kids from a young age, so they grow up never to question this thug leader.
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If the bohra Maula is the Maalik of har cheez, then what happened to Allah?
I guess the transformation is complete!!
I guess the transformation is complete!!
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I am even against the use of this word "Malik" in this regards, because this is one of the Allah Name.
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Since when a Dia became Maula of everything?
Qadi Nauman is his book 'Kitab-ul-Himma fi Adabi Ataba-el-a'emma'
Majlis 35.
THE DUTIES OF THE 'DAA-EES'
(Missionaries.).
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Self-correction is more necessary in the case of a 'daa-ee' than in the case Of any one else.
He should lead a good life and prove to be a 'daa-ee' in the true sense of the word. For
when he invites people to his faith, his followers will look upto him as the best model. If they
find good or bad things in him, they will attribute them to the teachings of the Imams and their
faith.
I quoted only first paragraph for brevity.
The full translation is here:
https://ismailimail.wordpress.com/2011/ ... -a-moulvi/
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Although I agree with spirt of your comment, I think the quotes are not applicable to the da'i al-mutlaq. In the time of the Fatimids, when the Imams were in zahir, there were many da'is. This paragraph is applicable to them. When the imam is in parda, the da'i al-mutlaq occupies the seat of the imam, and in fact, is the imam for all practical purposes. In this case, one should not, and can not apply, these standards.KA786110 wrote: Since when a Dia became Maula of everything?
Qadi Nauman is his book 'Kitab-ul-Himma fi Adabi Ataba-el-a'emma'
Majlis 35.
THE DUTIES OF THE 'DAA-EES'
(Missionaries.).
**********
Self-correction is more necessary in the case of a 'daa-ee' than in the case Of any one else.
He should lead a good life and prove to be a 'daa-ee' in the true sense of the word. For
when he invites people to his faith, his followers will look upto him as the best model. If they
find good or bad things in him, they will attribute them to the teachings of the Imams and their
faith.
I quoted only first paragraph for brevity.
The full translation is here:
https://ismailimail.wordpress.com/2011/ ... -a-moulvi/
Note that I am not defending Mr. Muffadul (LA). In fact, even the imam has not made these absurd claims. There is only one "maalik" of everything. He is not human. However, these types of code-of-conducts don't apply to da'i al-mutlaq.
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Ok, I see what is the difference. No wonder there is such an attachment and reverence.
One wonders though with so many competing dai al-mutalaqs, it would be difficult keep a community united.
One wonders though with so many competing dai al-mutalaqs, it would be difficult keep a community united.
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The Dai e Nazims have suppressed the truth to self proclaim themselves as Dai ul Mutlaq.
I have been trying to extrapolate the situation we are going through at present. The claims and the counter claims.
Such situations of decision making have come every 2 or 3 generations, How many of our ancestral decisions were reasoned and considered, and how many of them were sheeple like, which we are seeing now.
I really wonder.
I have been trying to extrapolate the situation we are going through at present. The claims and the counter claims.
Such situations of decision making have come every 2 or 3 generations, How many of our ancestral decisions were reasoned and considered, and how many of them were sheeple like, which we are seeing now.
I really wonder.
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Tum Log Ignore Karnay kay Siwa Kar Bhee Kiya Saktay hu.... ( kohee jawab hoga tu du gay na )true_bohra wrote:Just ignore GM post....he has a habit of posting all the whatsapp msgs that he gets...DisillusionedDB wrote: I don't see anything wrong with the pic.
KAHEE YA LOG ( JAIN BOHRA TU NAHI ? )
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^
Nanhey Munney Abde Meri Muthee mein Kiya Hei
Muthi mein taqdeer tumhari
Mein ney tumhare Maa Baap kau Bus mein kiya hey
Bholi Bhaali Matwali Aankhon mey kiya hey
Aankhon mey hey bebasi hamari
Aani waali Ghulamai kaa Daar saa basa hei
Nanhey Muney Abde Meri Mutthee mein kiya hei
Bihek mein Jo ROTI miley loge yaa no loge
Moula ki JUTI miley tau khoshi sey hum lengey
Ghulami Ki Zindgai hum jehlen gey
Moula Moula chila ker Jiney mei Maza hei
Nanney Munney Meri Muthee mein kiya hei
Aaney waali zidagi kisi hogi hum ko batawo
Aaney waali zindagi mein humare Galey mei Zanjeer Hogi
Naa Scientist baney kaa Khawab hoga, ROTI bananey ka Khawab hoga
Haath Jod key kharey hongey yeh hamare MOULA ney likha hey
Nanney Munney Bachey....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXq23K7T6n0
Nanhey Munney Abde Meri Muthee mein Kiya Hei
Muthi mein taqdeer tumhari
Mein ney tumhare Maa Baap kau Bus mein kiya hey
Bholi Bhaali Matwali Aankhon mey kiya hey
Aankhon mey hey bebasi hamari
Aani waali Ghulamai kaa Daar saa basa hei
Nanhey Muney Abde Meri Mutthee mein kiya hei
Bihek mein Jo ROTI miley loge yaa no loge
Moula ki JUTI miley tau khoshi sey hum lengey
Ghulami Ki Zindgai hum jehlen gey
Moula Moula chila ker Jiney mei Maza hei
Nanney Munney Meri Muthee mein kiya hei
Aaney waali zidagi kisi hogi hum ko batawo
Aaney waali zindagi mein humare Galey mei Zanjeer Hogi
Naa Scientist baney kaa Khawab hoga, ROTI bananey ka Khawab hoga
Haath Jod key kharey hongey yeh hamare MOULA ney likha hey
Nanney Munney Bachey....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXq23K7T6n0
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THIS IS WHERE THE BRAIN WASH STARTS.
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DB KI BEKASI
तुझे रहबर समझना पड़ गया है,
ये मेरी बेकसी की इंतहा है।
Isn't it true for all the dawoodi bohras
ये मेरी बेकसी की इंतहा है।
Isn't it true for all the dawoodi bohras
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How do you stop this practice since Kothari Mafia will not issue a Farman and when some one exposes this thru Media, many of the people here will scream Wahabi/Salafi retribution.
Any thoughts from those all who complained about exposing Bohra Sajda practice in Baharaini news papers.
Why would SKQ and his clan will not issue a FARMAN to stop this wadhawa ni Rasm on him, that will be a positive step. JUST ABOLISH WADHAW and it can start from SKQ side.
Any thoughts from those all who complained about exposing Bohra Sajda practice in Baharaini news papers.
Why would SKQ and his clan will not issue a FARMAN to stop this wadhawa ni Rasm on him, that will be a positive step. JUST ABOLISH WADHAW and it can start from SKQ side.
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Bro GM,
the only difference is photo hindus perform on imaginary photo or idol here it is living deity or his photograph.
the only difference is photo hindus perform on imaginary photo or idol here it is living deity or his photograph.
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This ABSOLUTELY WRONG AND SHIRK in Islam sone bohras have gone out of their senses completely
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Fatwa from Kothar has already been issued to do aarti to the photo.
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I have no problems with wadhawa limited to what's done at home on occasions of birthdays and marriages. Routinely doing it to Aamils & Muffy etc is not required.
Islam in India always had Indic touch to it. No harm in it. That's why Sufism found a place. The day Indian Muslims start to behave like the ones in Pak & beyond, India will be in deep shit. Hope that day never comes.
Islam in India always had Indic touch to it. No harm in it. That's why Sufism found a place. The day Indian Muslims start to behave like the ones in Pak & beyond, India will be in deep shit. Hope that day never comes.
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And what do say about Ghar Wapsi, Beef Ban, Surya Darshan, Yoga and Raksha Bandhan being imposed on allIndia will be in deep shit. Hope that day never comes.
Well Hindus have its own ISIS who want to rebuild Ram Temple and impose everything I mentioned above.
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This are all sign of acche din promised by Shri modi riot maker and his supporters. dont be surprise when bohra will start dancing in navratri saying dance is also good for health just like yoga.
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Astaghfirullah
And my fanatic abde cousins find nothing wrong in this.
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Muslims and victim mentality go hand in hand. How did Islam spread? How did Fatemi belief system spread in Gujarat? Proselytizing off course.SBM wrote:And what do say about Ghar Wapsi, Beef Ban, Surya Darshan, Yoga and Raksha Bandhan being imposed on allIndia will be in deep shit. Hope that day never comes.
Well Hindus have its own ISIS who want to rebuild Ram Temple and impose everything I mentioned above.
If the Hindus proselytize now it's a problem? To each his own. If someone wants to convert, it's their wish.
Beef ban is for some strange reason seen as anti Muslim move. Beef ban has existed for a loooong time in many states. Congress gvt has introduced that.
Nobody is imposing Suryanamaskar either. No gun has been pointed on the head. It's a bloody exercise that anyone can do name it whatever you want instead of Suryanamaskar. People do it inside closed rooms where the sun is not even visible. Ditto with entire Yog thing.
Raksha bandhan, well what's so religious about it? It's part of Indic culture & a day to celebrate brother sister relationship. People happily celebrate Valentine's and other days but when it comes to our own Indian culture, it's all called Hindu and opposed. We are from this land. Don't mix religion and cultural aspects. You can do Yog and still be a Muslim. You can get a rakhi tied and still be a Muslim. That's how the Muslims of the land have been. Imbibed local culture.
But then the comments on this forum don't surprise me. People want to go to a "puritanical" form. Similar to what Wahabis propagate. First step to radicalization. Instead of calling the Hindus ISIS which is laughable considering Indian Muslims live in all freedom here, look within