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- Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:25 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Imam's family tree after seclusion
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2457
Imam's family tree after seclusion
Hi Everyone, I've always wondered if the Dai(s) are supposed to know about the Imam's family tree after seclusion and where they are at? Is it a secret that is passed on from one Dai to the next dai? If yes, then when are these to be disclosed to the world? If no, then does it mean the secrets are l...
- Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:47 am
- Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
- Topic: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats
- Replies: 89
- Views: 21493
Re: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats
Hey human, Dont forget that guy sam has helped the poor syedna every month.He has given him a lot of money to maintain his bentley and posh palaces and also helped by giving his skin to make jootis....And syedna has given him Gaib nu ilm...a tight kick on his ass for not paying more and also a no e...
- Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:42 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: views on dhadi n topi
- Replies: 208
- Views: 19991
Re: views on dhadi n topi
Human, It is your honest wrong belief that only enough Hinduism knowledge and non-beard saved you. Re: La hol vila ku vat To begin with beginning, it is nothing (Hindu knowledge, etc) but Allah that has saved your life, who in first place gave you life. Allah saves or kills whomsoever he wish and n...
- Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:39 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: views on dhadi n topi
- Replies: 208
- Views: 19991
Re: views on dhadi n topi
I barely survived the 2002 riots only because I didn't have a dadhi and a topi and I had enough knowledge about Hinduism to prove to the group of orange clad fanatics that I'm a Hindu. At that time if I was having a dadhi and topi, I was sure gone. 'La hol vila ku vat' wouldn't have saved me then. ...
- Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:49 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Some questions about dawoodi bohras
- Replies: 30
- Views: 5798
Re: Some questions about dawoodi bohras
anajmi, just thought I'd clarify myself more on my previous post. When I asked the question about saree, my meaning was why have we gone backwards. When it was acceptable before so why had it suddenly become unacceptable? (only from dawoodi bohra point of view). By this in anyway I'm not challenging...
- Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:46 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: is progressive a different religion....
- Replies: 62
- Views: 6463
Re: is progressive a different religion....
Please don't bother to argue haqqun_nafs. Smart made a valid point and you would need some wisdom to understand what he meant. The way you interpreted it just goes on to prove the fact that you're actually so foolish and anything that comes out of your mouth would be mere rubbish. haha no its just ...
- Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:41 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: POVERTY IN BOHRAS
- Replies: 37
- Views: 12511
Re: POVERTY IN BOHRAS
HUMAN BEING WILL NEVER BE FREE FROM POVERTY,EVEN IN THE ERA OF MUHMMED(SAW) THERE WHERE THOUSANDS OF POOR PEOPLE. THIS IS THE BALANCE CREATED BY NATURE AND WE ARE NO ONE TO QUESTION NATURE ABOUT THIS CYCLE OF POORTY AND RICHNESS. IT IS BETTER TO HELP POOR IN SUCH A WAY NO ONE KNOWS INSTEAD OF EXPOS...
- Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:25 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Why are orthies like this?
- Replies: 64
- Views: 7308
Re: Why are orthies like this?
Hey, I would like to ask this question to all people in this forum. Why do you think orthos behave like this ? The common behavoiur noted is. 1) Not accepting the fact inspite of sufficient proofs. 2) Saying that they dont abuse and call people by names and abuse on an open forum and also utter lan...
- Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:10 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: POVERTY IN BOHRAS
- Replies: 37
- Views: 12511
Re: POVERTY IN BOHRAS
Yes Oma, you are absolutely right. It is very sad to see so many in our community going through a hard time and not getting any help whatsoever.omabharti wrote:DID ANYONE NOTICE THAT KOTHARIS AND ABDES ARE ABSENT ON THIS THREAD.
all the posting came from Malumaat Message Board and does not require proof
- Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:07 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: views on dhadi n topi
- Replies: 208
- Views: 19991
Re: views on dhadi n topi
human, you have made some important points, but need to calm down. i know that very often certain issues or debates tend to excite us and arouse our anger and passions. its very easy falling into the same bracket as the fanatics to even the score, so to speak, but then you would be on the same base...
- Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:30 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Some questions about dawoodi bohras
- Replies: 30
- Views: 5798
Re: Some questions about dawoodi bohras
anajmi, I thank you for answering some of my questions from an Islam point of view. They really make sense and as like_minded mentioned, the rules we were asked to follow are just made-up in the last few decades. I would like to mention about the women wearing sarees, I agree to what anajmi mentione...
- Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:16 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: is progressive a different religion....
- Replies: 62
- Views: 6463
Re: is progressive a different religion....
sorry but i didnt got your point,why would you like to marry your daughter to some curropt and illitrate dawoodi man with ugly beard and who is always ready to rip his skin to make jooti of syednaa? marry her to some wahabi lol and why would u like to get burried with jhannami DB...go and get burri...
- Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:34 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Kureshbhai Saheb????
- Replies: 36
- Views: 4893
Re: Kureshbhai Saheb????
Every few days, these new orthies come on this forum with all guns blazing, laughing at the progressives, calling them names, thinking they know everything, because they have been brainwashed and living in their small wells. After a few days of exposure to the light and heat of reason and knowledge...
- Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:39 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Maatam for mind control and subjugation..
- Replies: 302
- Views: 64232
- Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:38 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Maatam for mind control and subjugation..
- Replies: 302
- Views: 64232
Re: Maatam for mind control and subjugation..
Regarding this 'Mulla factory' aka Jaa-miya-tu-seekh-ke-aa (kaise in andhe logo ko lutna hai), I have a question. Long ago when I got the privilege of visiting this fool producing institute I saw a swimming pool there. I wonder if all the would be mullas keep their 'komi-libaas' and topi on while go...
- Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:15 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Some questions about dawoodi bohras
- Replies: 30
- Views: 5798
Re: Some questions about dawoodi bohras
So far, there have been no decent and logical answers to my questions. I can only go on and confirm my assumption that answers do not exist! There are no logical answers to my questions. All those things are imposed without a proper reason. Ofcourse there's a reason that is to make people's blind fa...
- Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:34 pm
- Forum: What is happening in your Jamat?
- Topic: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats
- Replies: 89
- Views: 21493
Re: Problems in USA,Canada and UK jamaats
to make even 2 ppl agree to a point is impossible..how can u make 1000's go in 1 direction if u dont be a lil strict......... Why the hell try to make 2 people agree to a point? Let them have their own point of view!! In the same way...why is the need to make 1000's go in 1 direction? Unless ofcour...
- Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:29 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Mutah
- Replies: 116
- Views: 14625
Re: Mutah
More than men I feel more sorry for the poor women of our community and the pathetic state they are in. Its even worse for the young Iranian girls who get the so called 'privilege' of being in mutah with one of the members of royal family. It would be such a shocking experience for the poor girls gi...
- Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:19 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: views on dhadi n topi
- Replies: 208
- Views: 19991
Re: views on dhadi n topi
Thanks for posting this oma. The drive has surprised some members of the 1.3 lakh strong community - believed to be the most liberal within the Shia sect - in Mumbai. Maybe our community was the most liberal in shia sect before, not anymore. I think it is now one of the shia sects that is very stric...
- Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:51 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Mutah
- Replies: 116
- Views: 14625
Re: Mutah
Super stuff! Busted red handed! And he claimed he already knew. He's definitely learning how to lie from his superiors. I doubt if we'll see any more post from haqqun on this thread. Probably hide his face in shame if he has any. NO lol being side face is your JOB not mine,my name is Ali and i dont...
- Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:32 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Mutah
- Replies: 116
- Views: 14625
Re: Mutah
Could this have been posted by haggun? http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234974134-hatum/ :lol: :lol: Super stuff! Busted red handed! And he claimed he already knew. He's definitely learning how to lie from his superiors. I doubt if we'll see any more post from haqqun on this thread. P...
- Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:23 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: A question to the progressives
- Replies: 21
- Views: 2594
Re: A question to the progressives
The grandfather of Sayedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb i.e. 49th Dai Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin Saheb was poor and indebted and one of his own Amil loaned him an amount of rupees 50,000 on simple interest. When the Dai could not pay back that amount his concerned Amil filed a suit against him and tried...
- Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:08 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Mutah
- Replies: 116
- Views: 14625
Re: Mutah
ok, haggun. Since anajmi is absent, I will put you out of your misery. You obviously did not notice that anajmi was pulling your leg! 'hatum' is simply 'mutah' spelled backwards. :) By the way, do you understand what 'pulling your leg' means? Do ask, if you do not. :lol: and u really think i didnt ...
- Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:01 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: A question to the progressives
- Replies: 21
- Views: 2594
Re: A question to the progressives
Well after reading all your replies i have come to the conclusion that you believe in the mustaali imaams. Now as you guyz have so much problem about the lavish lifestyle of syedna, then go read the history books and see how lavish was the lifestyle of the mustaali imaams. Especially read up on how...
- Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:24 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: 4 Ustads of Jamia
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2530
Re: 4 Ustads of Jamia
And I thought I might preach some humanity to the orthos. I guess I have to give up as cons and criminals can never be humans. Someone might have to teach them atleast not to commit crimes if they can't do any good for the people.
- Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:16 am
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: 4 Ustads of Jamia
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2530
Re: 4 Ustads of Jamia
This is absolutely so shocking :-( Up to now I've only seen this kind of disgusting torture in movies, never in real life. I feel sorry for the poor knowledgeable people who became the preys. Found these good reads on the internet too: http://www.pucl.org/from-archives/Religion-communalism/bohra.htm...
- Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:07 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Mazoon claiming to be a Dai
- Replies: 15
- Views: 4988
Re: Mazoon claiming to be a Dai
Mr merchant, is it your family business to "gade murde ukhaadnaa?" lol do u work in graveyard? I guess you know the answers to mr. merchant's question, but you wouldn't say isn't it? All he asked for is 'truth'. And if you refer to truth as 'murde' then its clearly visible whose lying and...
- Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:04 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: Some questions about dawoodi bohras
- Replies: 30
- Views: 5798
Re: Some questions about dawoodi bohras
how about this? give me name of any DAI who was engage in sharaab,kabbab and shabaaab with a proof and i will leave this bohra sect. Haqqun_nafs, Ok I don't have any proof of the Dai who did all those things so far. But as you agreed his shehzadas do all that and you said you don't care about them....
- Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:55 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: views on dhadi n topi
- Replies: 208
- Views: 19991
Re: views on dhadi n topi
ok i want some genuine thoughts of progs on few points below.no dai or ortho bashing or irrelevent to topic posts plz.. 1.is it for good of the community or bad that dai is imposing dhadi and topi???? 2.is uniformity in mosque(kurta saaya)really required? 3.are taseerunikah and rasme saify good or ...
- Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:25 pm
- Forum: Bohras and Reform
- Topic: UNIVERSALISM
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1747
Re: UNIVERSALISM
That work has already started. This board is an example. I agree and there will be more and more people coming aboard as time passes. I accidentally found this website and I'm happy I did. As I child I was fed the same ortho diet of matam etc in the madresa I went to and I was told of reformists as...