Dawoodi Bohra Forum

Moushy, For sure, he must not have done anything. Just to recap on what I have posted in the past on this issue: Originally posted by Aleem: He probably did 'pull the trigger'. What these goones (poachers) do in Tanzania is abosultely drug an animal the lion preys on. The lion feeds of it, gets dope...

Originally posted by moushy8: i feel Syedna is not only a pig ... he's a BIG HORRIBLE GRUNTING PIG!! Moushy, Let's not resort to childish name calling. Otherwise we are no better than the orthodox who call for 'laanat' 'baraat' and label us as 'snakes and scorpions'. Fyi ---> Originally posted by A...

Zeal,

You're on the ball mate!

Whatever happens to M52, I suppose, is upto Allah.
(although M52 himself may disagree and attribute it all to the syedna)

Brother Moomin052, Salaams to you once again Originally posted by moomin052: why do you want me to convince you on my faith,can you convince me on yours. i asked you a simple question before about the quran and you could not answer You are getting a little belligerent now arent you? Infact, I did an...

Brother Moomin052, Originally posted by moomin052: we are back at the same thing ,that you are allowed your faith but the dawoodi bohras are not they have to prove and prove to snakesand scorpions,please if you you do not believe leave no one is holding you back.leave us to our moula and our beliefs...

Moomin052, Originally posted by moomin052: aleem you said what i wanted to hear that you follow your faith that al quran is allahs is word,indeed it is but in the same context why dont want us to have the same faith in our moula that he is allahs dai and are demanding proof.it is our faith so if you...

Moomin052, I really don't like playing back and forth with because you have a tendency to dwell on issues akin to a little child. I am not a learned scholar and never claimed to be so I cant spit out historical cchurnings. But to answer your question of how I know how Islam & Koran are originate...

Moomin052, Originally posted by moomin052: how do know that islam and quran have come from allah. were you there 1400 years ago and please do not reply by quoting hadees or things which are not with proof I am not clear as to what you are trying to say and why you are doubting that Islam and Quran c...

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Originally posted by moomin052: hi believer52 what did i tell that do not waste your time on snakes,they are very slippery and never loyal to anybody. you just saw one of them even refusing to accept engineer as his leader Moomin052, Please don't resort to name calling, back-biting and slander. We ...

Originally posted by moomin052: you look at the MUMINEEN today we are much more ahead of what we were 30 or 40 years ago in all ways possible, in bussiness ,education,health wealth, we travel more and our standard of living is much much higher. Moomin052, You are absolutely correct. The Dawoodi Boh...

Beleiver 52, (sorry - reposting again with clearer quotation marks - ignore the previous post) Just a couple of initial comments after reading your posting. Originally posted by believer52: My humble suggestion to you all would be to either, go entirely blind(by leaving the fold of the dawat) and re...

Beleiver 52, Just a couple of initial comments after reading your posting. Originally posted by believer52: My humble suggestion to you all would be to either, go entirely blind(by leaving the fold of the dawat) and reserve a place for urselves and your families in hell; in contrast, Allah's Dai is ...

Originally posted by moomin052: insaaf we do not worship out syedna but we follow him and obey him, that is something which bugs you progs so you bring all this allah and quran and hadees to justify yourself, moomin052, You say "...all this allah and quran..." ????? Of course - this is Is...

Accountability/ Jamanpasand, Sick as it may sound, I am certain that one of the strategies is to drum us support for the 'sick old man' so all the pakka bohras think he is suffering and sacrificing for the cause of Islam. No doubt there shall slowly permeate anecdotes comparing the dai with Martyrs ...

S. Insaf, You are absolutely right when you say he is to be blamed. They Syedna runs a mass organisation and has to be fully accountable for what goes on within it. He must be responsible, just as the CEO of any leading multinational organisation should be when it faces problems. At the very least h...

Moomin52, Asghar Ali Engineer is not the "leader" of any 'reformist religion'. He is a political pioneer in the reform movement amongst the dawoodi bohra community but in no way does he represent any spiritual authority. Nobody amongst 'reformists' have referred to him as a religious leade...

Bohra Couple, I will check my copy and let you know how to gewt hold of one. I do not suggest you scan it and uploadit becasue there will be copywright issues and publication fraud. I suggest you contact the publishers directly about getting it online. Im sure they will help. If anyone reading this ...

Dear Houston Couple, There iare books published, specific to the dawoodi bohra community with all the dua's etc, including with english interpretations. Excellent for families with children raised in Western countires as it helps with teaching and understanding the meaning of our deen. Most notable ...

Interesting times, How the upper echelons of khotar society must be formulating strategies on how to quickly usurp power. Whoever 'declares' "I was given Nas" first will have be most believable, (unless of course the old man publicly announces it quickly). If there is no public announcemen...

Wa-alaikum Salaam Abdul Noor.

I do not beleive the bohras have ever said this.

However, despite the fact that it would be obviously sacrelige, if the 'royal family' of the syedna ever does make such a claim, for sure the masses of 'pakka' bohras would believe it blindly.

Africawala; Thanks

This did not seem to be a comprehensive list however.

Im interested to know if the bohra community have any representation.

A-Salaam aleikum One thing perplexes me. There was a gathering of muslim leaders/ scholars from all over the world last week. They held conference in Jordan to discuss the state of the Muslim ummah (world perception under terrorist threat/ issusing fatwas against militants and terror cells etc....) ...

This letter was drafted by the khotar. I can assure you of its legitimacy because it affected me on a personal level back in 2000.

However, that being said, the khotar can and do always change their rules at their whim's and fancies and the letter or whatever they have you sign can change.

NeedHelpUser - Salaam You are right, things are far too complicated. Life is all about making compromises. Unfortunately the "khotar" dont see it that way and want everything done their way in a tyrannical sense. This is why we have to make choices and judgements using the 'aql' (mind/inte...

Salaam NeedHelpUser I AM RE-RE-POSTING SOME INFORMATION PUT UP IN THE PAST WHICH INSHALLAH WILL BE HELPFUL TO YOU. AT THE BOTTOM IS THE ACTUAL TEMPLATE OF A REAL LETTER (PRENUPTUAL AGREEMENT) WHICH KHOTAR/ BOHRA LEADERSHIP REQURES YOU AND YOUR SPOUSE TO SIGN AND THIS IS ONLY IMPOSED WITH NON-BOHRAS....

Apologies on the typo - should be "wajebaat" and not Sabil.

Salaams

It's that time of year again - the jamaats are demanding sabil payments.

There is a new addition on the sabil statements now demanding a specific amount for "pregnancy".

Khotari's - please explain why a feotus needs to pay. Trust this is just another way to increase your assets?

I read an article on BBCONLINE the other day which had me intrigued. There seems to be a growing number of Muslim based comedy. I think this is a could be a good thing as for sure appropriate laugter breaks barriers. But this is the first Ive heard of muslim comics. Interested to know thoughts/ feed...

Raudat?

But isnt our favourite Dai immortal. Isnt he going to be around till qiyamat? After all - that's what wer all hope and pray for isn't it?

Are we being mis-lead???