Bohras are not the only one

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asad
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Bohras are not the only one

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Unread post by asad » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:15 am

Bohras are not the only one who indulge in kufr, check out the video, guy lieing on the bed is even accepting cash as salaam taken by Bohra clergy, and their are assistants also for him.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=46 ... =2&theater

badrijanab
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Unread post by badrijanab » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:14 am

Bhai Asad,

(Only) Fatimi Shariyat do not teaches Kufr.

Kothat who is anti DB have conned mumineen to do kufr.

So, please do not incorrectly says that Bohras do kufr.

Thanks.

anajmi
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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:37 am

(Only) Fatimi Shariyat do not teaches Kufr.
The fact that you call it "Fatimi" Shariyat and not Islamic Shariyat automatically points to the underlying kufr.

badrijanab
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Unread post by badrijanab » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:22 pm

anajmi wrote:
(Only) Fatimi Shariyat do not teaches Kufr.
The fact that you call it "Fatimi" Shariyat and not Islamic Shariyat automatically points to the underlying kufr.
Tawheed is the foundation not the pillar. Follower's of 1/2/3 got astrayed that conveys that all who are following 1/2/3 are on Kufr.

Fatimi Dawat = Islamic Dawat (both are one and same).

anajmi
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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:36 pm

Then you should stop referring to it as "Fatimi" shariyat. When you say "Fatimi" shariyat it implies that it was created by the Fatimi rulers. If it was and that is what you follow, then you are a kafir.

Every time you say that you follow "Fatimi" shariyat, it implies that you are a kafir. You should say that you follow Islamic shariyat.

Followers of 1/2/3/4 do not have to identify their shariyat differently from Islamic shariyat. Which implies that they are not kafirs. Those who need to identify their shariyat differently need to evaluate themselves.

JC
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Unread post by JC » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:16 pm

Badriji,

You are missing one important fact (as Anajmi has noted), those who 'believe' in 1/2/3 also believe in 4 and call them 'Khulfa-e-Rashedeen'. Also for them Islam was COMPLETED on Mohammad, hence Islamic Shariyat or Shariyat-e-Mohammadi. Even if one wants not to believe in 1/2/3 or 1/2/3/4 or 4 can be a Muslim by simply following Islamic Sharia.

So please grow up and stop bringing this 1/2/3 in each and every topic.

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Unread post by badrijanab » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:25 pm

JC wrote:Badriji,

You are missing one important fact (as Anajmi has noted), those who 'believe' in 1/2/3 also believe in 4 and call them 'Khulfa-e-Rashedeen'. Also for them Islam was COMPLETED on Mohammad, hence Islamic Shariyat or Shariyat-e-Mohammadi. Even if one wants not to believe in 1/2/3 or 1/2/3/4 or 4 can be a Muslim by simply following Islamic Sharia.

So please grow up and stop bringing this 1/2/3 in each and every topic.
Who told 1/2/3 were Khulfa-rashideen? You are conned by rulers 1/2/3, Abbasi and Umaaiya. And you still carry that stigma of conned.

JC and Anajmi you are your alike cannot bring even one hadees in your own literature (sihah sitta) if Prophet authorized your 1/2/3 after him as authority! But you stillfollow 1/2/3 as your authority hence all followers of 1/2/3 are astrayed and you all are kaafirs.

JC
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Unread post by JC » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:32 pm

Badri,

You are again missing the point - WHO said we FOLLOW 1/2/3???!!!!

Muslim follow Mohammad and Quran ONLY - For them Islam completed on Mohammad. They are not Mortal Worshippers (or Dead Worshippers).

I said it is irrelevant who succeeded Prophet, it was all Politics and Governance.

anajmi
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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:53 pm

JC is right. We do not follow "Abu Bakr" shariyat or "Umar" shariyat or "Uthman" shariyat like badrijanab follows "Fatimi" shariyat.

And, we have also seen that badrijanab is a liar who lies about the sunnah of the prophet (saw). So we can see what he has been taught by the people he follows!!

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Unread post by badrijanab » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:20 pm

JC wrote:Badri,

You are again missing the point - WHO said we FOLLOW 1/2/3???!!!!

Muslim follow Mohammad and Quran ONLY - For them Islam completed on Mohammad. They are not Mortal Worshippers (or Dead Worshippers).

I said it is irrelevant who succeeded Prophet, it was all Politics and Governance.
If u do not follow 1/2/3 then why you removed "Hayya la kherul amal" from azaan?

Prophet has never observed non-fard salat in imamat - u follow Umar and misgudedely act against Prophet (s) by offering Tarawi in Imamat!!!

JC, u lie when u say u do not follow 1/2/3, u do indeed. And you do not follow Prophet (s) as he on Gadeer Khum declared Ali (a) as his successor.

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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:24 pm

Prophet has never observed non-fard salat in imamat - u follow Umar and misgudedely act against Prophet (s) by offering Tarawi in Imamat!!!
It is better to offer Tarawi in Imamat, like we do, than to lie about the sunnah of the prophet (saw), like you do. By the way, the prophet (saw) led tarawi in Imamat for 3 days. And you have been proven to be a liar.
And you do not follow Prophet (s) as he on Gadeer Khum declared Ali (a) as his successor.
The prophet (saw) did no such thing. You have already been proven to be a liar.

pheonix
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Unread post by pheonix » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:43 am

anajmi wrote:
Prophet has never observed non-fard salat in imamat - u follow Umar and misgudedely act against Prophet (s) by offering Tarawi in Imamat!!!
It is better to offer Tarawi in Imamat, like we do, than to lie about the sunnah of the prophet (saw), like you do. By the way, the prophet (saw) led tarawi in Imamat for 3 days. And you have been proven to be a liar.
And you do not follow Prophet (s) as he on Gadeer Khum declared Ali (a) as his successor.
The prophet (saw) did no such thing. You have already been proven to be a liar.
Shoo wahabi shoo.

Al Zulfiqar
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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:43 pm

phoenix,

aa shoo kare chhe, shoo shoo?

dum hoi to new rules thread par aav, joiye wahan tu shoo shoo kare chhe, ke su-su..
:mrgreen:

Bohra spring
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Unread post by Bohra spring » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:02 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:phoenix,

aa shoo kare chhe, shoo shoo?

dum hoi to new rules thread par aav, joiye wahan tu shoo shoo kare chhe, ke su-su..
:mrgreen:
Az bhai Phoenix shoo shoo kayche ene apna munafik na gharam napak hawa thi shu shu awi gayoo ane pote napak thay gayo

pheonix
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Unread post by pheonix » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:18 am

Bohra spring wrote: Az bhai Phoenix shoo shoo kayche ene apna munafik na gharam napak hawa thi shu shu awi gayoo ane pote napak thay gayo
Exactly

Al Zulfiqar
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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:27 am

bhai bohra spring.

you cant win against the high intelligence of phoenix. did you see the evidence? no matter how hard you try with your scholarly approach, phoenix just demonstrated that he is smarter, way smarter.

Safiuddin
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Re: Bohras are not the only one

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Unread post by Safiuddin » Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:33 pm

I really need to start attending more often the sabaq-baqs of Pheonix