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Surprisingly many fanatics knew about theirs murderous activity and as per their belief they say "Dawat ne bachava mate murder pan karavu pade"
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This is Kothar
5.7.2002.
The followers follow the leader. When leader himself never set precedence how these Amils could set such precedence. Let me share you some more pieces of information with people on board.
Shiekh Zohair was made Amil of Toronto Jamaat despite the fact that he is not from Bait-e-Zainee (Syedna’s family). Guess what was the reason behind giving him Amalat of such a lucrative station! He saved the life of one of Syedna’s son while that idiot killed an innocent villager while he was on hunting spree (of course by making prompt moves and bribing in Bhai Engineer’s words govt. within govt. people). The latest news is he has bought a villa worth of 10 million rupees in a posh Bombay locality (because he stayed for 4 full years).
Another example: In 1997 when Syedna visited Bangkok Jamaat (last visited by his father in 1953) the then Amil of Bangkok Jamaat, Shiekh Saifuddin plundered the Jamaat’s funds [about 2 million US $ donated by one philanthropist lady to Jamaat] to make arrangements for Syedna and kins. When 3 days shopping/pleasure trip was over, people asked for accounts. He posted accounts on the Masjid’s notice board (remember where doing and talking about business is HARAM). People rejected his accounts and asked Shiekh Saifuddin to give HISAB of every single penny he spent for. He obviously failed to produce. He flew overnight to an undisclosed location after closing Darul Imarat without letting anyone know after getting continuous threats from jamaat members. Shiekh Moiz (Wali Mullah) flew to Bombay with all details. For sure, he was hidden under the umbrella of corrupt Kotharis and never brought to justice as of to date.
These are not only examples. Jamaat’s history is full of such examples. All these amils are equally corrupt. They all receive their share in the loot in the name of Wajeebats. What else you could expect? The worst part is we people are still in deep slumber and when it will be broken perhaps when it would be too late.
5.7.2002.
The followers follow the leader. When leader himself never set precedence how these Amils could set such precedence. Let me share you some more pieces of information with people on board.
Shiekh Zohair was made Amil of Toronto Jamaat despite the fact that he is not from Bait-e-Zainee (Syedna’s family). Guess what was the reason behind giving him Amalat of such a lucrative station! He saved the life of one of Syedna’s son while that idiot killed an innocent villager while he was on hunting spree (of course by making prompt moves and bribing in Bhai Engineer’s words govt. within govt. people). The latest news is he has bought a villa worth of 10 million rupees in a posh Bombay locality (because he stayed for 4 full years).
Another example: In 1997 when Syedna visited Bangkok Jamaat (last visited by his father in 1953) the then Amil of Bangkok Jamaat, Shiekh Saifuddin plundered the Jamaat’s funds [about 2 million US $ donated by one philanthropist lady to Jamaat] to make arrangements for Syedna and kins. When 3 days shopping/pleasure trip was over, people asked for accounts. He posted accounts on the Masjid’s notice board (remember where doing and talking about business is HARAM). People rejected his accounts and asked Shiekh Saifuddin to give HISAB of every single penny he spent for. He obviously failed to produce. He flew overnight to an undisclosed location after closing Darul Imarat without letting anyone know after getting continuous threats from jamaat members. Shiekh Moiz (Wali Mullah) flew to Bombay with all details. For sure, he was hidden under the umbrella of corrupt Kotharis and never brought to justice as of to date.
These are not only examples. Jamaat’s history is full of such examples. All these amils are equally corrupt. They all receive their share in the loot in the name of Wajeebats. What else you could expect? The worst part is we people are still in deep slumber and when it will be broken perhaps when it would be too late.
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SOME NEWS FROM THE AFRICAN CONTINENT.
More Scandalous story in our community!
Profile of Yusufali Kamruddin - Article by Yunus Alibhai Kinkhabwala and Muzahir Tayebjee.
Born on the 10th of October 1920, at Gadhkada Kathiawad, he travelled to Uganda in 1928 to join his parents and returned to India to serve as a volunteer when Sayyedna Taher Saifuddin visited Gadhkada in 1937. Bohras started sending their sons to a newly opened boarding school at Bhavnagar, then under the principalship of Mullah Abbas Aurangabadi. It was the same Aurangabadi who was set upon by Goondas of Kothar disfiguring him with acid-attack in Bombay and brutally burned him alive in Karachi. Teenager Yusufali spotted a monthly bulletin 'Khair-Khwahe Moemeneen' edited by Ibrahim Mohammedali Master, who not only published it but also penned articles for it. It was the first ever Bulletin circulating in Gujarat that had been established in 1908, exposing the excesses of Kothar publishing the grievances of the subjugated community. The articles had profound effect on Yusufali who started reading it and developing concern for the well being of the community.
He said goodbye to India in 1938 and settled in Kiboga, Uganda, opening a General Merchandise Shop. He travelled to India in 1945 to get married and returned to Kiboga and kept in with his parents residing in Masindi where Abdulali officiated as the Jamaats Wali- Mulla. He seized an opportunity during a trip to India in 1957, attending the first ever conference of the Bohras at Bagasra, Kathiawad, organised by the editor of Tamanna Qutub Azad it attracted some six hundred delegates one of whom was Mohammedali Allahbukhsh- recuperating his excommunication by the Kothar. The conference, lasted three days graced by noble personalities like Taherbhai Kinkhabwala and Hasanali Jaferji Chakera at the Privy Council, London in Burhanpur Dargah case against the respondent Sayyedna. In spite of losing the case Sayyedna ordered the gullible Momeneens to celebrate the 'Fateh-Mubin and they did.
Sayyedna Taher Saifuddin paid a visit to the Moemeneen of East Africa in 1963 with the plane- load of his entourage. Who picked up the bill? East African Jamaats of course! Exorbitant amounts of Maqdam, Ziyafat etc were extracted by Shehzadas-specially Yusuf Najmuddin (Y.N), the master brain of Kothar who thought the streets of East African cities were paved with gold. Demands for large sums made Community Members toss and turn in their sleep. What a terrible price meek Bohras paid for their Blind-following!
The humiliation of the prominent member - a devout follower, at his daughters wedding feast at the hands of Sayyedna awe-struck Jamaat Members. The heart-broken member paid with his life, dying soon afterwards, unable to bear the humiliating charade. The arrogant Members of the so-called Royal Family turned the lives of their hosts into hell treating devout followers as slaves. The hosts could not understand why most Off-springs of the 51st Dai never got up for the morning prayers; one law for them and another for the ordinary Bohras.
The publicity following the visit of the late Sayyedna, Jamaats across India started requesting Constitution accorded to the Jamaats in East Africa. The reasonable request infuriated Y.N giving him grounds to rescind the Constitution reluctantly given in 1954 to Jamaats in East Africa. Following the death of Sayyedna Taher Saifuddin, Y.N. and Hatim Bhaisaheb arrived in Kampala armed with a new Constitution it denied members free and fair elections. They also cajoled Jamaat Trustees to vest the Community Properties in Sayyedna's sole name. A couple of Trustees assigned their deeds but the late Amarbhai Mohammedali did not, stating that he had no authority to sign away the Title Deeds of the Jamaat Properties without the consent of the Members. Fazlehusein Kapasi, realising the seriousness of the situation called a Meeting of the Members of the Kampala Jamaat to discuss implications of the draft of the New Constitution, the majority disagreed with the new draft resulting in a split in the Kampala Jamaat. Rajabali Abdulali, Wali Mulla, of the Masindi Jamaat supported the stance taken by the majority of Members of the Kampala Jamaat. His action infuriated Taherbhaisaheb Izzudin who issued 'Firman (order)' removing Wali- Mullaship from him and instructed Members of the Masindi Jamaat to obtain Raza (Permission) from Shaikh Alihusen for all ceremonies henceforth. The Massindi Jamaat refused to obey Taherbhaisaheb's instructions stating that unless firman (decree) came from the Sayyedna they would 'carry on regardless' obtaining 'Raza@ from the Wali-Mullah Rajabali Abdulali as before and the authority from Sayyedna never came!
Obtaining 'Raza' for the Nikah of his own daughter caused Rajabali Abdulali problems in 1969 since he had to obtain it from Taherbhaisaheb at Mombasa. Rajabali Abdulali offered 'Mafi (forgiveness)' but he was turned down, as Taherbhaisaheb was not in compromising mood: he had the score to settle with the Wali-Mullah. That intransigence prompted the couple to resort to desperate measures. They overcame the hurdle by Civil Marriage followed by the first ever 'Nikah' per 'Shariat' in Uganda officiated by Hakim Luqman. This action freed Bohras from the shackles of 'Gulami (slavery)'. The Reformists began to carry out all rites without begging for 'Raza' from the inconsiderate Kothar. Whereas the Reformists had all the properties in their hand and formed the majority in Kampala, they accounted for 100% in Masindi.
Expulsion of the Asian in 1972 from Uganda by Idi Amin resulted in bulk of the Bohras from to settle in England. While still stationed in Refugee Camps, the Reformists travelled to London, in 1973, to attend Moharrum waiz and were prepared to compromise their principles; but the 'Chamchas' on the instigation of the Kothar denied them entry and called the Police. The Police asked the Reformists to leave because they held no Membership cards. Before leaving in 1974, to see his daughter in Karachi, who was on the other side, Yusufali agreed to submit to a misaq to save his daughter any embarrassment. About Forty-five Reformists travelled to Leicester to pledge Misaq with the sincere intention of bringing an end to the split. They signed Forms, attested photos and paid the Fees as asked. While waiting they saw Bhaisaheb walking past them ignoring them. The Bhaisaheb sent for Akbarali Alibhai and Sharafali Abdulhusein. They were asked to inform applicants that there would be no misaq unless each applicant signed that Fazlehusein Kapasi was the author of the article that appeared in Leicester Mercury against Kothar. Each applicant was further asked to observe 'Baraat (severe ties) with Fazlehusein Kapasi, Hakim Luqman and Gulam Abbas Rajbhai. The group asked that they would sign only if Bhaisaheb put such clauses in writing. Since he was not prepared to put it in writing the group left, without pledging "Misaq", collecting their papers.
The conveyed the representatives of the kothar that it had lost the opportunity of more Reformist submitting to the will of Kothar. Ahmedali Luqmani offered his services to the Reformist, the following Moharrum. Thus "Ashura" was observed in Birmingham and it continued for further five years. He also officiated "Nikahs" of Shirin Hasanali to Dawood Mohammed Ali and of Zarina Kamruddin to Zainuddin Sulemanji. Those "Nikahs" emboldended hitherto to apprehensive Reformist Jamats in England who began carrying out religious rites themselves, independent of Kothar. Yusuf Ali believes in the Qur'an, which says that no man should prostrate to anyone but Allah is happy with the freedom-, no slavery and does not have affinity for Jamans. He says taste lingers momentarily in the mouth. Bohras should use brains and not sell their souls out.
More Scandalous story in our community!
Profile of Yusufali Kamruddin - Article by Yunus Alibhai Kinkhabwala and Muzahir Tayebjee.
Born on the 10th of October 1920, at Gadhkada Kathiawad, he travelled to Uganda in 1928 to join his parents and returned to India to serve as a volunteer when Sayyedna Taher Saifuddin visited Gadhkada in 1937. Bohras started sending their sons to a newly opened boarding school at Bhavnagar, then under the principalship of Mullah Abbas Aurangabadi. It was the same Aurangabadi who was set upon by Goondas of Kothar disfiguring him with acid-attack in Bombay and brutally burned him alive in Karachi. Teenager Yusufali spotted a monthly bulletin 'Khair-Khwahe Moemeneen' edited by Ibrahim Mohammedali Master, who not only published it but also penned articles for it. It was the first ever Bulletin circulating in Gujarat that had been established in 1908, exposing the excesses of Kothar publishing the grievances of the subjugated community. The articles had profound effect on Yusufali who started reading it and developing concern for the well being of the community.
He said goodbye to India in 1938 and settled in Kiboga, Uganda, opening a General Merchandise Shop. He travelled to India in 1945 to get married and returned to Kiboga and kept in with his parents residing in Masindi where Abdulali officiated as the Jamaats Wali- Mulla. He seized an opportunity during a trip to India in 1957, attending the first ever conference of the Bohras at Bagasra, Kathiawad, organised by the editor of Tamanna Qutub Azad it attracted some six hundred delegates one of whom was Mohammedali Allahbukhsh- recuperating his excommunication by the Kothar. The conference, lasted three days graced by noble personalities like Taherbhai Kinkhabwala and Hasanali Jaferji Chakera at the Privy Council, London in Burhanpur Dargah case against the respondent Sayyedna. In spite of losing the case Sayyedna ordered the gullible Momeneens to celebrate the 'Fateh-Mubin and they did.
Sayyedna Taher Saifuddin paid a visit to the Moemeneen of East Africa in 1963 with the plane- load of his entourage. Who picked up the bill? East African Jamaats of course! Exorbitant amounts of Maqdam, Ziyafat etc were extracted by Shehzadas-specially Yusuf Najmuddin (Y.N), the master brain of Kothar who thought the streets of East African cities were paved with gold. Demands for large sums made Community Members toss and turn in their sleep. What a terrible price meek Bohras paid for their Blind-following!
The humiliation of the prominent member - a devout follower, at his daughters wedding feast at the hands of Sayyedna awe-struck Jamaat Members. The heart-broken member paid with his life, dying soon afterwards, unable to bear the humiliating charade. The arrogant Members of the so-called Royal Family turned the lives of their hosts into hell treating devout followers as slaves. The hosts could not understand why most Off-springs of the 51st Dai never got up for the morning prayers; one law for them and another for the ordinary Bohras.
The publicity following the visit of the late Sayyedna, Jamaats across India started requesting Constitution accorded to the Jamaats in East Africa. The reasonable request infuriated Y.N giving him grounds to rescind the Constitution reluctantly given in 1954 to Jamaats in East Africa. Following the death of Sayyedna Taher Saifuddin, Y.N. and Hatim Bhaisaheb arrived in Kampala armed with a new Constitution it denied members free and fair elections. They also cajoled Jamaat Trustees to vest the Community Properties in Sayyedna's sole name. A couple of Trustees assigned their deeds but the late Amarbhai Mohammedali did not, stating that he had no authority to sign away the Title Deeds of the Jamaat Properties without the consent of the Members. Fazlehusein Kapasi, realising the seriousness of the situation called a Meeting of the Members of the Kampala Jamaat to discuss implications of the draft of the New Constitution, the majority disagreed with the new draft resulting in a split in the Kampala Jamaat. Rajabali Abdulali, Wali Mulla, of the Masindi Jamaat supported the stance taken by the majority of Members of the Kampala Jamaat. His action infuriated Taherbhaisaheb Izzudin who issued 'Firman (order)' removing Wali- Mullaship from him and instructed Members of the Masindi Jamaat to obtain Raza (Permission) from Shaikh Alihusen for all ceremonies henceforth. The Massindi Jamaat refused to obey Taherbhaisaheb's instructions stating that unless firman (decree) came from the Sayyedna they would 'carry on regardless' obtaining 'Raza@ from the Wali-Mullah Rajabali Abdulali as before and the authority from Sayyedna never came!
Obtaining 'Raza' for the Nikah of his own daughter caused Rajabali Abdulali problems in 1969 since he had to obtain it from Taherbhaisaheb at Mombasa. Rajabali Abdulali offered 'Mafi (forgiveness)' but he was turned down, as Taherbhaisaheb was not in compromising mood: he had the score to settle with the Wali-Mullah. That intransigence prompted the couple to resort to desperate measures. They overcame the hurdle by Civil Marriage followed by the first ever 'Nikah' per 'Shariat' in Uganda officiated by Hakim Luqman. This action freed Bohras from the shackles of 'Gulami (slavery)'. The Reformists began to carry out all rites without begging for 'Raza' from the inconsiderate Kothar. Whereas the Reformists had all the properties in their hand and formed the majority in Kampala, they accounted for 100% in Masindi.
Expulsion of the Asian in 1972 from Uganda by Idi Amin resulted in bulk of the Bohras from to settle in England. While still stationed in Refugee Camps, the Reformists travelled to London, in 1973, to attend Moharrum waiz and were prepared to compromise their principles; but the 'Chamchas' on the instigation of the Kothar denied them entry and called the Police. The Police asked the Reformists to leave because they held no Membership cards. Before leaving in 1974, to see his daughter in Karachi, who was on the other side, Yusufali agreed to submit to a misaq to save his daughter any embarrassment. About Forty-five Reformists travelled to Leicester to pledge Misaq with the sincere intention of bringing an end to the split. They signed Forms, attested photos and paid the Fees as asked. While waiting they saw Bhaisaheb walking past them ignoring them. The Bhaisaheb sent for Akbarali Alibhai and Sharafali Abdulhusein. They were asked to inform applicants that there would be no misaq unless each applicant signed that Fazlehusein Kapasi was the author of the article that appeared in Leicester Mercury against Kothar. Each applicant was further asked to observe 'Baraat (severe ties) with Fazlehusein Kapasi, Hakim Luqman and Gulam Abbas Rajbhai. The group asked that they would sign only if Bhaisaheb put such clauses in writing. Since he was not prepared to put it in writing the group left, without pledging "Misaq", collecting their papers.
The conveyed the representatives of the kothar that it had lost the opportunity of more Reformist submitting to the will of Kothar. Ahmedali Luqmani offered his services to the Reformist, the following Moharrum. Thus "Ashura" was observed in Birmingham and it continued for further five years. He also officiated "Nikahs" of Shirin Hasanali to Dawood Mohammed Ali and of Zarina Kamruddin to Zainuddin Sulemanji. Those "Nikahs" emboldended hitherto to apprehensive Reformist Jamats in England who began carrying out religious rites themselves, independent of Kothar. Yusuf Ali believes in the Qur'an, which says that no man should prostrate to anyone but Allah is happy with the freedom-, no slavery and does not have affinity for Jamans. He says taste lingers momentarily in the mouth. Bohras should use brains and not sell their souls out.
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Really nice article Ghulam bhai.. You have a lot of inside information.. I believe you are an insider in Kothar !!!! In any case I like your posts ...ghulam muhammed wrote:SOME NEWS FROM THE AFRICAN CONTINENT.
More Scandalous story in our community!
Profile of Yusufali Kamruddin - Article by Yunus Alibhai Kinkhabwala and Muzahir Tayebjee.
Born on the 10th of October 1920, at Gadhkada Kathiawad, he travelled to Uganda in 1928 to join his parents and returned to India to serve as a volunteer when Sayyedna Taher Saifuddin visited Gadhkada in 1937. Bohras started sending their sons to a newly opened boarding school at Bhavnagar, then under the principalship of Mullah Abbas Aurangabadi. It was the same Aurangabadi who was set upon by Goondas of Kothar disfiguring him with acid-attack in Bombay and brutally burned him alive in Karachi. Teenager Yusufali spotted a monthly bulletin 'Khair-Khwahe Moemeneen' edited by Ibrahim Mohammedali Master, who not only published it but also penned articles for it. It was the first ever Bulletin circulating in Gujarat that had been established in 1908, exposing the excesses of Kothar publishing the grievances of the subjugated community. The articles had profound effect on Yusufali who started reading it and developing concern for the well being of the community.
He said goodbye to India in 1938 and settled in Kiboga, Uganda, opening a General Merchandise Shop. He travelled to India in 1945 to get married and returned to Kiboga and kept in with his parents residing in Masindi where Abdulali officiated as the Jamaats Wali- Mulla. He seized an opportunity during a trip to India in 1957, attending the first ever conference of the Bohras at Bagasra, Kathiawad, organised by the editor of Tamanna Qutub Azad it attracted some six hundred delegates one of whom was Mohammedali Allahbukhsh- recuperating his excommunication by the Kothar. The conference, lasted three days graced by noble personalities like Taherbhai Kinkhabwala and Hasanali Jaferji Chakera at the Privy Council, London in Burhanpur Dargah case against the respondent Sayyedna. In spite of losing the case Sayyedna ordered the gullible Momeneens to celebrate the 'Fateh-Mubin and they did.
Sayyedna Taher Saifuddin paid a visit to the Moemeneen of East Africa in 1963 with the plane- load of his entourage. Who picked up the bill? East African Jamaats of course! Exorbitant amounts of Maqdam, Ziyafat etc were extracted by Shehzadas-specially Yusuf Najmuddin (Y.N), the master brain of Kothar who thought the streets of East African cities were paved with gold. Demands for large sums made Community Members toss and turn in their sleep. What a terrible price meek Bohras paid for their Blind-following!
The humiliation of the prominent member - a devout follower, at his daughters wedding feast at the hands of Sayyedna awe-struck Jamaat Members. The heart-broken member paid with his life, dying soon afterwards, unable to bear the humiliating charade. The arrogant Members of the so-called Royal Family turned the lives of their hosts into hell treating devout followers as slaves. The hosts could not understand why most Off-springs of the 51st Dai never got up for the morning prayers; one law for them and another for the ordinary Bohras.
The publicity following the visit of the late Sayyedna, Jamaats across India started requesting Constitution accorded to the Jamaats in East Africa. The reasonable request infuriated Y.N giving him grounds to rescind the Constitution reluctantly given in 1954 to Jamaats in East Africa. Following the death of Sayyedna Taher Saifuddin, Y.N. and Hatim Bhaisaheb arrived in Kampala armed with a new Constitution it denied members free and fair elections. They also cajoled Jamaat Trustees to vest the Community Properties in Sayyedna's sole name. A couple of Trustees assigned their deeds but the late Amarbhai Mohammedali did not, stating that he had no authority to sign away the Title Deeds of the Jamaat Properties without the consent of the Members. Fazlehusein Kapasi, realising the seriousness of the situation called a Meeting of the Members of the Kampala Jamaat to discuss implications of the draft of the New Constitution, the majority disagreed with the new draft resulting in a split in the Kampala Jamaat. Rajabali Abdulali, Wali Mulla, of the Masindi Jamaat supported the stance taken by the majority of Members of the Kampala Jamaat. His action infuriated Taherbhaisaheb Izzudin who issued 'Firman (order)' removing Wali- Mullaship from him and instructed Members of the Masindi Jamaat to obtain Raza (Permission) from Shaikh Alihusen for all ceremonies henceforth. The Massindi Jamaat refused to obey Taherbhaisaheb's instructions stating that unless firman (decree) came from the Sayyedna they would 'carry on regardless' obtaining 'Raza@ from the Wali-Mullah Rajabali Abdulali as before and the authority from Sayyedna never came!
Obtaining 'Raza' for the Nikah of his own daughter caused Rajabali Abdulali problems in 1969 since he had to obtain it from Taherbhaisaheb at Mombasa. Rajabali Abdulali offered 'Mafi (forgiveness)' but he was turned down, as Taherbhaisaheb was not in compromising mood: he had the score to settle with the Wali-Mullah. That intransigence prompted the couple to resort to desperate measures. They overcame the hurdle by Civil Marriage followed by the first ever 'Nikah' per 'Shariat' in Uganda officiated by Hakim Luqman. This action freed Bohras from the shackles of 'Gulami (slavery)'. The Reformists began to carry out all rites without begging for 'Raza' from the inconsiderate Kothar. Whereas the Reformists had all the properties in their hand and formed the majority in Kampala, they accounted for 100% in Masindi.
Expulsion of the Asian in 1972 from Uganda by Idi Amin resulted in bulk of the Bohras from to settle in England. While still stationed in Refugee Camps, the Reformists travelled to London, in 1973, to attend Moharrum waiz and were prepared to compromise their principles; but the 'Chamchas' on the instigation of the Kothar denied them entry and called the Police. The Police asked the Reformists to leave because they held no Membership cards. Before leaving in 1974, to see his daughter in Karachi, who was on the other side, Yusufali agreed to submit to a misaq to save his daughter any embarrassment. About Forty-five Reformists travelled to Leicester to pledge Misaq with the sincere intention of bringing an end to the split. They signed Forms, attested photos and paid the Fees as asked. While waiting they saw Bhaisaheb walking past them ignoring them. The Bhaisaheb sent for Akbarali Alibhai and Sharafali Abdulhusein. They were asked to inform applicants that there would be no misaq unless each applicant signed that Fazlehusein Kapasi was the author of the article that appeared in Leicester Mercury against Kothar. Each applicant was further asked to observe 'Baraat (severe ties) with Fazlehusein Kapasi, Hakim Luqman and Gulam Abbas Rajbhai. The group asked that they would sign only if Bhaisaheb put such clauses in writing. Since he was not prepared to put it in writing the group left, without pledging "Misaq", collecting their papers.
The conveyed the representatives of the kothar that it had lost the opportunity of more Reformist submitting to the will of Kothar. Ahmedali Luqmani offered his services to the Reformist, the following Moharrum. Thus "Ashura" was observed in Birmingham and it continued for further five years. He also officiated "Nikahs" of Shirin Hasanali to Dawood Mohammed Ali and of Zarina Kamruddin to Zainuddin Sulemanji. Those "Nikahs" emboldended hitherto to apprehensive Reformist Jamats in England who began carrying out religious rites themselves, independent of Kothar. Yusuf Ali believes in the Qur'an, which says that no man should prostrate to anyone but Allah is happy with the freedom-, no slavery and does not have affinity for Jamans. He says taste lingers momentarily in the mouth. Bohras should use brains and not sell their souls out.
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According to Dawoodi Bohra Ismaili Faith, the succession of a Dai is governed by Divine right of Nass inspired by the Imam of the time or hidden imam and not by heritance or democratic election.
The best and the most learned and pious member of the community irrespective of his financial standing was chosen by the Dai before his death, trained and if the choice was approved by Divine inspiration from Imam the nomination was publicly declared in an assembly of the faithful, and such nomination was known as Nasse-Jali.
Late Sayedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb has defined “Dai” in his book “Zua Nure Haqqun Mubin” as one who invites the people to the right path of Allah by modestly preaching the virtues and philosophy of Islam, derived from 14th para of the 21st Ruku of the holy Qur’an “Ud, oo, Ila Sabile Rabbika, bil Hikmat Wal muazatul Hasana” – Call them to the path of thy Lord tactfully and by good manner.
From first Dai Sayedna Zoeb till 24th Dai Sayedna Yusuf Najmuddin in a span of 441 years Dais remained in Yemen but they kept on sending their deputies from Yemen to India. A training school was kept in Yemen for training the candidates from India.
Thus even the descendants of the first Hindu coverts from Raja Sidhraj Jaisingh (Bharmal)’s family were patronised and called to Yemen and trained. One Mulla Raj was raised to the degree in Dawat and his son Sayedna Ismailji Badruddin was rose to the post of Dai. After him 34th, 35th, 36th, 37th, 38th, 41st, 42nd, 43rd and 46th Dais that is nine other members of Bharmal’s family were raised to the status of a Dai.
This clearly shows that earlier Dais never hesitated to recognise the superior qualifications of the outside ordinary Bohras against their own children.
This also dismisses the claim that the present incumbents have any linkage from the holy Prophet or the people of his house (Ahle-byat or Imam).
However after the death of 46th Dai Sayedna Badruddin Saheb, the last of the converted Royal Rajput family of Gujarat, the present dynastic rule commenced.
I may add here that according to the writer of “Mousame Bahar (Vol. III), Mohammad Ali s/o Mulla Jiva bhai published with Raza Mubarak (holy permission) of 47th Dai Sayedna Abdul Qadir Najmuddin Saheb; On the death of 46th Dai Sayedna Badruddin Saheb a council of leading Mashaikhs (qualified learned men) of the time named as “Hilful-Fazail” was formed which was headed by Shaikh Imamuddin. Since 46th Dai had suddenly died at a young age apparently from the effect of food poisoning two days before appointment and public declaration of his successor, these Mashaikhs took the oath of allegiance to 47th Dai Sayedna Najmuddin swearing his superiority in learning, piety and administrative ability. But for the fist time the belief in Divine character of Dawate-Hadiya of these Mashaikhs and the community had slackened as they suspected the chain of succession to Dais hereafter by Divine right had broken and Dais were there merely for Nizamat or management of the affairs of the Dawat. (“Mousame Bahar, page 519, Vol. III). Thus a controversy aroused against him and split in the form of Mahdibag-wallas took placed.
The shrewd Sayedna Najmuddin Saheb dealt this controversial situation very tactfully and ruled for 46 years. In order to create the opinion in his favour he increased the numbers of Mashaikhs without any test of their qualification, quality and character so profusely that the degree, honour and the title of Shaikh lost its original value amongst the learned. Earlier this degree of Shaikh was given to chosen few who had acquired required education, who knew Arabic and who had gone through the long training and had proved their merits. He conferred the title of Shaikh on undeserving persons who happened to be rich or influential. Thus the Mushaikhs of Hilful Fazail lost their value and hence influence in the crowd of the ignorant Mashaikhs.
Sayedna Najmuddin appointed his brother Sayedna Hushamuddin as his successor and thus dictated a policy of succession in his family.
Incidentally Sayedna Najmuddin was the grandfather of 51st Dai Sayedna Taher Saifuddin who self-assumed the title of “Daiul-Mutlaq” after remaining satisfied with the name of Bada Mullaji and Sardar in the first few years of his office.
I want to make it clear here that we Dawoodi Bohra Reformists are not at all concerned with the merits of this controversy and this only for information to understand the current situation.
By S.Insaf.
The best and the most learned and pious member of the community irrespective of his financial standing was chosen by the Dai before his death, trained and if the choice was approved by Divine inspiration from Imam the nomination was publicly declared in an assembly of the faithful, and such nomination was known as Nasse-Jali.
Late Sayedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb has defined “Dai” in his book “Zua Nure Haqqun Mubin” as one who invites the people to the right path of Allah by modestly preaching the virtues and philosophy of Islam, derived from 14th para of the 21st Ruku of the holy Qur’an “Ud, oo, Ila Sabile Rabbika, bil Hikmat Wal muazatul Hasana” – Call them to the path of thy Lord tactfully and by good manner.
From first Dai Sayedna Zoeb till 24th Dai Sayedna Yusuf Najmuddin in a span of 441 years Dais remained in Yemen but they kept on sending their deputies from Yemen to India. A training school was kept in Yemen for training the candidates from India.
Thus even the descendants of the first Hindu coverts from Raja Sidhraj Jaisingh (Bharmal)’s family were patronised and called to Yemen and trained. One Mulla Raj was raised to the degree in Dawat and his son Sayedna Ismailji Badruddin was rose to the post of Dai. After him 34th, 35th, 36th, 37th, 38th, 41st, 42nd, 43rd and 46th Dais that is nine other members of Bharmal’s family were raised to the status of a Dai.
This clearly shows that earlier Dais never hesitated to recognise the superior qualifications of the outside ordinary Bohras against their own children.
This also dismisses the claim that the present incumbents have any linkage from the holy Prophet or the people of his house (Ahle-byat or Imam).
However after the death of 46th Dai Sayedna Badruddin Saheb, the last of the converted Royal Rajput family of Gujarat, the present dynastic rule commenced.
I may add here that according to the writer of “Mousame Bahar (Vol. III), Mohammad Ali s/o Mulla Jiva bhai published with Raza Mubarak (holy permission) of 47th Dai Sayedna Abdul Qadir Najmuddin Saheb; On the death of 46th Dai Sayedna Badruddin Saheb a council of leading Mashaikhs (qualified learned men) of the time named as “Hilful-Fazail” was formed which was headed by Shaikh Imamuddin. Since 46th Dai had suddenly died at a young age apparently from the effect of food poisoning two days before appointment and public declaration of his successor, these Mashaikhs took the oath of allegiance to 47th Dai Sayedna Najmuddin swearing his superiority in learning, piety and administrative ability. But for the fist time the belief in Divine character of Dawate-Hadiya of these Mashaikhs and the community had slackened as they suspected the chain of succession to Dais hereafter by Divine right had broken and Dais were there merely for Nizamat or management of the affairs of the Dawat. (“Mousame Bahar, page 519, Vol. III). Thus a controversy aroused against him and split in the form of Mahdibag-wallas took placed.
The shrewd Sayedna Najmuddin Saheb dealt this controversial situation very tactfully and ruled for 46 years. In order to create the opinion in his favour he increased the numbers of Mashaikhs without any test of their qualification, quality and character so profusely that the degree, honour and the title of Shaikh lost its original value amongst the learned. Earlier this degree of Shaikh was given to chosen few who had acquired required education, who knew Arabic and who had gone through the long training and had proved their merits. He conferred the title of Shaikh on undeserving persons who happened to be rich or influential. Thus the Mushaikhs of Hilful Fazail lost their value and hence influence in the crowd of the ignorant Mashaikhs.
Sayedna Najmuddin appointed his brother Sayedna Hushamuddin as his successor and thus dictated a policy of succession in his family.
Incidentally Sayedna Najmuddin was the grandfather of 51st Dai Sayedna Taher Saifuddin who self-assumed the title of “Daiul-Mutlaq” after remaining satisfied with the name of Bada Mullaji and Sardar in the first few years of his office.
I want to make it clear here that we Dawoodi Bohra Reformists are not at all concerned with the merits of this controversy and this only for information to understand the current situation.
By S.Insaf.
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Su nirali shan chey a khandan ni. Doosroon ke roti par jeetey hain.
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What is Sayedna’s wisdom?
By S. Insaf.
I am very very sorry as a Dawoodi Bohra, to admit that it was the biggest blunder committed by Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin Saheb.
22nd August 1988 was the 10th of Moharram, a day devoted commemorate the tragedy of Karbala. Sayedna’s vaiz tamasha was organised on grand scale. More than 50,000 Bohras were gathered in Bhindi Bazar, Bombay and were made sit on the road outside Saifee Masjid. Mikes and TV screens were put up all over the locality. Always the Shia Sunni vaizeen on 10th of Moharram stick to describing the tragedy of Karbala only. But on such a day Sayedna Burhanuddin chose to curse the first three Khalifas of Islam and Hazrat Aisha, the wife of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh). He not only cursed them but ordered the present Dawoodi Bohra audience to repeatedly cruse them. There are several mosques, residences and shops in that area belonging to Sunni Muslims. Naturally it hurt their religious feelings and there was a riot between Bohras and Sunni Muslims.
Sayedna Saheb and their Shahzadas immediately left the place in police jeeps removing their turbans. According Blitz magazine there was a gang of Shiv Sanik already present in the Saifee Masjid wearing Bohra caps. Was it then, a pre-planned action? News spread all over Bombay among Muslims. They demanded an apology from Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb but he refused. There were several shops near Rozatut-Tahera selling Sayedna’s photographs. Agitated Muslims looted these shops along with other shops and passer-by Bohras were helplessly watching their beloved Almighty Aqa Moula’s photographs floating in drainages all over. They had never imagine that.
Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb went on claiming that cursing the first three Khalifa was right as per his “maslak” as per Shia tradition. But Shias also condemn this act and riots continued for days in which 5 innocent Muslims including 3 Dawoodi Bohras lost their lives. The property worth 12 Crores was destroyed. Situation became so tense that curfew was imposed for three days in Bhindi Bazar and Mohammad Ali Road Areas.
Following Friday after Friday prayers Muslims took out a protest march demanding an apology from Sayedna. On the interference of Maulana Ziauddin Bukhari and then Maharashtra Chief Minister Sharad Pawar, ultimately Sayedna Saheb agreed to tender an oral apology but Muslim leaders refused and demanded a written apology. Yusuf Najmuddin found it difficult that Sayedna Saheb who has all along claimed to be Kal-Masoom (near innocent, one who can not commit any sin or error); how can he submit a written apology and that too publicly?
Then Yusuf Najmuddin’s close friend and communist Urdu writer, Dr. Zoe Ansari came to their rescue. He very carefully drafted in Urdu language an apology using words like “Ma’zarat” for apology easily understood by Urdu knowing Muslims but difficult for Bohras. He also took care in not mentioning the Lanat episode but merely saying “mere chand kalemat jo mene 22 August 1988 ko kahe”. He also added that “I have always tried that in spite of differences in belief and faith the mutual relations and love with each other should prevail. It is because we have faith that the Muslims are united on the basis of the kalma that “There is no god but there is Allah".
Interestingly when Sayedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb had claimed that he was “Ilahul-Ard”, God on earth, Justice Martin had quoted the same kalma, “There is no god but there is Allah" to smash late Sayedna’s claim.
In the mean time news had spread all over the country and Muslims from Maharashtra, Gujarat and Rajasthan were planning to file a suit against Sayedna Saheb in the courts of law. So it was decided that the written apology by Sayedna would published in newspaper and broadcasted over the television to reach to Muslims everywhere.
Therefore the apology drafted by Dr. Zoe Ansari in consultation with Yusuf Najmuddin was copied by Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb in his writing and the copies were sent to all newspaper overnight and then read out apology by Sayedna’s brother Qasim Hakimuddin was broadcasted on TV channels.
What was Sayedna Saheb’s wisdom in cursing the first three Khalifas and that too on the day of Ashura, is still not known.
Inspite of giving a written oath that “Last evening (due to my hurting utterances) the displeasing situation has been created that has weaken the mutual relations in Islamic nation. It is in benefit of all of us that we forget this bitterness and as usual embrace each other with trust and love.”, he, his family members, his Amils and his fanatic Dawoodi Bohras still continues to curse and hurt the feelings of Muslims in general.
What is Sayedna Saheb’s wisdom in perpetuating hatred among Muslims? What is Sayedna Saheb’s wisdom in having close association with hardcore Hindutwa leaders like Narendra Modi, who are most hated by Muslims? This is further creating a divide between Muslims and Dawoodi Bohras.
Is it in the interest of the community as a whole in long term?
By S. Insaf.
I am very very sorry as a Dawoodi Bohra, to admit that it was the biggest blunder committed by Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin Saheb.
22nd August 1988 was the 10th of Moharram, a day devoted commemorate the tragedy of Karbala. Sayedna’s vaiz tamasha was organised on grand scale. More than 50,000 Bohras were gathered in Bhindi Bazar, Bombay and were made sit on the road outside Saifee Masjid. Mikes and TV screens were put up all over the locality. Always the Shia Sunni vaizeen on 10th of Moharram stick to describing the tragedy of Karbala only. But on such a day Sayedna Burhanuddin chose to curse the first three Khalifas of Islam and Hazrat Aisha, the wife of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh). He not only cursed them but ordered the present Dawoodi Bohra audience to repeatedly cruse them. There are several mosques, residences and shops in that area belonging to Sunni Muslims. Naturally it hurt their religious feelings and there was a riot between Bohras and Sunni Muslims.
Sayedna Saheb and their Shahzadas immediately left the place in police jeeps removing their turbans. According Blitz magazine there was a gang of Shiv Sanik already present in the Saifee Masjid wearing Bohra caps. Was it then, a pre-planned action? News spread all over Bombay among Muslims. They demanded an apology from Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb but he refused. There were several shops near Rozatut-Tahera selling Sayedna’s photographs. Agitated Muslims looted these shops along with other shops and passer-by Bohras were helplessly watching their beloved Almighty Aqa Moula’s photographs floating in drainages all over. They had never imagine that.
Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb went on claiming that cursing the first three Khalifa was right as per his “maslak” as per Shia tradition. But Shias also condemn this act and riots continued for days in which 5 innocent Muslims including 3 Dawoodi Bohras lost their lives. The property worth 12 Crores was destroyed. Situation became so tense that curfew was imposed for three days in Bhindi Bazar and Mohammad Ali Road Areas.
Following Friday after Friday prayers Muslims took out a protest march demanding an apology from Sayedna. On the interference of Maulana Ziauddin Bukhari and then Maharashtra Chief Minister Sharad Pawar, ultimately Sayedna Saheb agreed to tender an oral apology but Muslim leaders refused and demanded a written apology. Yusuf Najmuddin found it difficult that Sayedna Saheb who has all along claimed to be Kal-Masoom (near innocent, one who can not commit any sin or error); how can he submit a written apology and that too publicly?
Then Yusuf Najmuddin’s close friend and communist Urdu writer, Dr. Zoe Ansari came to their rescue. He very carefully drafted in Urdu language an apology using words like “Ma’zarat” for apology easily understood by Urdu knowing Muslims but difficult for Bohras. He also took care in not mentioning the Lanat episode but merely saying “mere chand kalemat jo mene 22 August 1988 ko kahe”. He also added that “I have always tried that in spite of differences in belief and faith the mutual relations and love with each other should prevail. It is because we have faith that the Muslims are united on the basis of the kalma that “There is no god but there is Allah".
Interestingly when Sayedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb had claimed that he was “Ilahul-Ard”, God on earth, Justice Martin had quoted the same kalma, “There is no god but there is Allah" to smash late Sayedna’s claim.
In the mean time news had spread all over the country and Muslims from Maharashtra, Gujarat and Rajasthan were planning to file a suit against Sayedna Saheb in the courts of law. So it was decided that the written apology by Sayedna would published in newspaper and broadcasted over the television to reach to Muslims everywhere.
Therefore the apology drafted by Dr. Zoe Ansari in consultation with Yusuf Najmuddin was copied by Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb in his writing and the copies were sent to all newspaper overnight and then read out apology by Sayedna’s brother Qasim Hakimuddin was broadcasted on TV channels.
What was Sayedna Saheb’s wisdom in cursing the first three Khalifas and that too on the day of Ashura, is still not known.
Inspite of giving a written oath that “Last evening (due to my hurting utterances) the displeasing situation has been created that has weaken the mutual relations in Islamic nation. It is in benefit of all of us that we forget this bitterness and as usual embrace each other with trust and love.”, he, his family members, his Amils and his fanatic Dawoodi Bohras still continues to curse and hurt the feelings of Muslims in general.
What is Sayedna Saheb’s wisdom in perpetuating hatred among Muslims? What is Sayedna Saheb’s wisdom in having close association with hardcore Hindutwa leaders like Narendra Modi, who are most hated by Muslims? This is further creating a divide between Muslims and Dawoodi Bohras.
Is it in the interest of the community as a whole in long term?
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The Dawoodi Bohra leadership have actually changed the Quran in about four or five places! And one of them is in the Surah Alam-Nashrah as stated by you.
Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 94 Surah Alam-Nashrah verses 7-8: Therefore, when you (O Prophet) are free (from your task), ‘funsub’ (still labor hard), And to your Lord turn all your attention.
‘funsub’ in Arabic would mean to make ‘oneself’ labor hard or make effort to stand straight (in this case for prayer, etc.)
‘funsib’ would mean to make ‘someone else’ labor hard or make effort to make ‘them’ strand straight.
The correct meaning of the above aayahs would be that Allah is commanding the Prophet (saws), that when he is free from all the duties and responsibilities he (saws) has to deliver to the believers and his family, to make effort and labor hard and stand in the worship of His Lord, and turn all his attention to Allah Subhanah.
To change the word to ‘funsib’ would mean that Allah is commanding the Prophet (saws), that when he is free from his responsibilities, he should tell the ‘others’ to make effort and labor hard to stand straight. (Actually it just does not make any sense!)
I know of one more word that they have changed in Chapter 37 Surah Saafaat verse 130, where instead of saying when the Quran says ‘ill Yaaseen’, the Bohras say, “aa’le Yaaseen”!
The reason is very obvious and very effective for their needs. These unscrupulous leaders, by saying that the Quran has been changed in 4-5 places, put doubts into their followers; that this Quran is not complete and has some errors… These are the same leaders who regularly say to their followers that they should never try to understand the Quran, because they might get mis-guided! How can This Book, which was revealed by Allah Himself for the guidance of mankind, misguide its readers? These are the same leaders who say that each word and each aayah of the Holy Quran has 10 meanings! These are the same leaders who say that it is impossible to understand the Quran! These are the same people who say, that only one man, or only his ‘chosen’ family can understand the Quran; and their followers just have to obey them in whatever they say! These are the same people who stress that the Quran can and should only be read in Arabic, thereby guaranteeing that no common Bohra will ever understand the clear guidance and teachings of the Holy Quran! These are the same leaders who say that there is a hidden meaning, and the names of their ‘pious’ holy men ‘deep’ inside the aayahs of the Quran, which only they know! These are the same leaders who say that the Quran has several meanings: the ‘zaahir’(open); the ‘baatin’(hidden); the ‘taaweel’ (the real meaning); etc. which are known only to one man or his family!
By creating these sort of doubts into the minds of their followers, these unscrupulous people have been successful in taking the Quran out of the system of the Bohras! They never use the Quran as their book of guidance… but instead use as their constitution a book called the ‘Daim ul Islam’ by an Egyptian cleric named Qadi Noaman, who incidentally wrote the book some 340 years after the death of the Prophet (saws). They never use the Holy Quran as their evidence for doing something! They never explain the meaning of the Quran from the beginning to the end … they may quote one aayah here and one aayah which suits them, there! But they simply never teach the Quran as a whole!
Even in their university, Al Jamea-tus-Saifeea in Surat, the students apparently go through 13 years of Islamic education, but the meaning and understanding of the Quran is not even one of their subjects or fields of study! Even these graduates have very little knowledge about the Quran, simply because they have never studied the Quran from beginning to end in all their 13 years! Neither do the Bohras have a translation of their own, nor do they endorse any existing translation.
Their plan is simple: Just keep their followers out of the understanding of the Holy Quran. And once any person is kept out of the understanding of this Book of Guidance, they can lead them anywhere they want, make them do anything they want them to do, take from them anything they want, and make them bow down to anyone they want! And the poor Bohras think that everything these leaders and holy men say is apparently from the Quran, and thus obey and follow them religiously!
That is the simple reasoning behind changing the words of the Holy Quran!
These unscrupulous self-made leaders and self-proclaimed holy men, then wear the garb of Islam, but guide their followers far far away from Allah and the True Deen of Islam. They guide them to the obedience and invocation of themselves and their ancestors, rather than guide them to the obedience and invocation of the One Lord Alone, Allah Subhanah! They guide them to bow down to human beings and graves of their ancestors, rather than bowing down to Allah Subhanah Alone! They guide them to become ‘abde-syedna’ (slaves of syedna), rather than guiding them to become ‘abd-Allah’ (slaves of Allah)!
if you don’t believe what I have said, try this simple exercise for yourself. I humbly ask you to go to your nearest bhaisaheb and/or aamil and ask him simply that you want to understand the Quran in its entirety! Go to any institution of the kothar and find out if they have even one ‘sabaq’ or class whereby they teach you only from the Quran! And see for yourself the vague answers you are going to get…..
You must first study so and so books; and once you finish them (which will never finish) only then you can understand the message of the Quran!
You must first go here and there to get the basic knowledge, before you even try to understand the Quran!
You will just not be able to understand the message of the Quran in its entirety!
If you try to understand the Quran in its entirety, you will be misguided!
Each aayah of the Holy Quran has several meanings!
The Quran has ‘zaahir’ and ‘baatin’ meanings and you need to be so and so to understand it!
The Quran has many ambiguous meanings, which can only be understood by ‘the people of knowledge’; ie. Themselves!
We do not have the ‘raza’ (or permission) to start such a class or ‘sabaq’!
Or they will directly attack your belief and ask you questions which automatically put you on the defensive:
Do you believe in the Syedna or not?
Are you a true mu’min, or have you become a munafiq?
Do you think you know more than the Syedna?
Who do you think you are, coming and asking us that you want to understand the Quran in its entirety?
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Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 94 Surah Alam-Nashrah verses 7-8: Therefore, when you (O Prophet) are free (from your task), ‘funsub’ (still labor hard), And to your Lord turn all your attention.
‘funsub’ in Arabic would mean to make ‘oneself’ labor hard or make effort to stand straight (in this case for prayer, etc.)
‘funsib’ would mean to make ‘someone else’ labor hard or make effort to make ‘them’ strand straight.
The correct meaning of the above aayahs would be that Allah is commanding the Prophet (saws), that when he is free from all the duties and responsibilities he (saws) has to deliver to the believers and his family, to make effort and labor hard and stand in the worship of His Lord, and turn all his attention to Allah Subhanah.
To change the word to ‘funsib’ would mean that Allah is commanding the Prophet (saws), that when he is free from his responsibilities, he should tell the ‘others’ to make effort and labor hard to stand straight. (Actually it just does not make any sense!)
I know of one more word that they have changed in Chapter 37 Surah Saafaat verse 130, where instead of saying when the Quran says ‘ill Yaaseen’, the Bohras say, “aa’le Yaaseen”!
The reason is very obvious and very effective for their needs. These unscrupulous leaders, by saying that the Quran has been changed in 4-5 places, put doubts into their followers; that this Quran is not complete and has some errors… These are the same leaders who regularly say to their followers that they should never try to understand the Quran, because they might get mis-guided! How can This Book, which was revealed by Allah Himself for the guidance of mankind, misguide its readers? These are the same leaders who say that each word and each aayah of the Holy Quran has 10 meanings! These are the same leaders who say that it is impossible to understand the Quran! These are the same people who say, that only one man, or only his ‘chosen’ family can understand the Quran; and their followers just have to obey them in whatever they say! These are the same people who stress that the Quran can and should only be read in Arabic, thereby guaranteeing that no common Bohra will ever understand the clear guidance and teachings of the Holy Quran! These are the same leaders who say that there is a hidden meaning, and the names of their ‘pious’ holy men ‘deep’ inside the aayahs of the Quran, which only they know! These are the same leaders who say that the Quran has several meanings: the ‘zaahir’(open); the ‘baatin’(hidden); the ‘taaweel’ (the real meaning); etc. which are known only to one man or his family!
By creating these sort of doubts into the minds of their followers, these unscrupulous people have been successful in taking the Quran out of the system of the Bohras! They never use the Quran as their book of guidance… but instead use as their constitution a book called the ‘Daim ul Islam’ by an Egyptian cleric named Qadi Noaman, who incidentally wrote the book some 340 years after the death of the Prophet (saws). They never use the Holy Quran as their evidence for doing something! They never explain the meaning of the Quran from the beginning to the end … they may quote one aayah here and one aayah which suits them, there! But they simply never teach the Quran as a whole!
Even in their university, Al Jamea-tus-Saifeea in Surat, the students apparently go through 13 years of Islamic education, but the meaning and understanding of the Quran is not even one of their subjects or fields of study! Even these graduates have very little knowledge about the Quran, simply because they have never studied the Quran from beginning to end in all their 13 years! Neither do the Bohras have a translation of their own, nor do they endorse any existing translation.
Their plan is simple: Just keep their followers out of the understanding of the Holy Quran. And once any person is kept out of the understanding of this Book of Guidance, they can lead them anywhere they want, make them do anything they want them to do, take from them anything they want, and make them bow down to anyone they want! And the poor Bohras think that everything these leaders and holy men say is apparently from the Quran, and thus obey and follow them religiously!
That is the simple reasoning behind changing the words of the Holy Quran!
These unscrupulous self-made leaders and self-proclaimed holy men, then wear the garb of Islam, but guide their followers far far away from Allah and the True Deen of Islam. They guide them to the obedience and invocation of themselves and their ancestors, rather than guide them to the obedience and invocation of the One Lord Alone, Allah Subhanah! They guide them to bow down to human beings and graves of their ancestors, rather than bowing down to Allah Subhanah Alone! They guide them to become ‘abde-syedna’ (slaves of syedna), rather than guiding them to become ‘abd-Allah’ (slaves of Allah)!
if you don’t believe what I have said, try this simple exercise for yourself. I humbly ask you to go to your nearest bhaisaheb and/or aamil and ask him simply that you want to understand the Quran in its entirety! Go to any institution of the kothar and find out if they have even one ‘sabaq’ or class whereby they teach you only from the Quran! And see for yourself the vague answers you are going to get…..
You must first study so and so books; and once you finish them (which will never finish) only then you can understand the message of the Quran!
You must first go here and there to get the basic knowledge, before you even try to understand the Quran!
You will just not be able to understand the message of the Quran in its entirety!
If you try to understand the Quran in its entirety, you will be misguided!
Each aayah of the Holy Quran has several meanings!
The Quran has ‘zaahir’ and ‘baatin’ meanings and you need to be so and so to understand it!
The Quran has many ambiguous meanings, which can only be understood by ‘the people of knowledge’; ie. Themselves!
We do not have the ‘raza’ (or permission) to start such a class or ‘sabaq’!
Or they will directly attack your belief and ask you questions which automatically put you on the defensive:
Do you believe in the Syedna or not?
Are you a true mu’min, or have you become a munafiq?
Do you think you know more than the Syedna?
Who do you think you are, coming and asking us that you want to understand the Quran in its entirety?
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By Al Zulfiqar.
A careful analysis of bohra history over the last 7-8 decades will show that the kothar has actually and very cunningly carried out a very cleverly designed and deliberate plan to subjugate the community by depriving it of 'real' knowledge and thereby turning them into brainless idiots.
1. The 51st dai embarked on a crusade to collect all deeni books and scriptures in the possession of individual bohras and many trusts. This he did by promoting the concept of a grand archival library which would become the treasure house of knowledge, a' la the famed alexandria library which was the ancient world's greatest repository of knowledge and which got burned down, its invaluable treasures lost forever. This STS did by sweet-talking the ulemas and sethiya's of the day, cajoling some and even threatening those who refused to part with the rare and esoteric works in their possession with baraat. His amils and agents fanned out all over and contacted each and every wealthy bohra and trust. In this manner they seized all external sources of knowledge. this was step 1.
2. The 51st also carried out a systematic campaign to denigrate and cheapen the position and status of sheikhs and mullahs, who in the past were highly learned in our deen and islam. This he did by offering and appointing these titles to any and all who could afford to pay him huge sums in salaams and throw lavish ziyafats in his honor. Newly rich, crass and vulgar, immoral and unethical, people of low character, criminals, drunkards. all were welcome. Their source of income was not questioned, their ethics and morals were not examined. Now suddenly, these uncouth and unlettered were equal in rank to the elite scholars and men of refinement and integrity! this was step 2.
3. The amils of old, who were well educated and pious individuals and who imparted singular ilm during majlises and vaez's and who were only answerable to their jamaats, were now eased out and replaced with younger, brainwashed and indoctrinated ordinary abdes, sent from the kothar, who were trained like attack dogs at the 2 jamea's. These factory trained professional amils were specifically instructed to toe the kothar's line, improve 'collections' manifold, take a tough line with their flock and appoint a jamaat committee which would work in tandem with the amil to terrorise, bully and humiliate ordinary abdes. this was step 3.
4. Step 4 was to radically alter the syllabus of the jameas, remove all semblance of deep and esoteric philosophy and reflection on deen, and replace it with superficial knowledge on namaaz, traditions and aberrant practices as promoted by the 51st. Teaching the not-too-subtle art of tear-jerking and provocative vaez techniques, promoting the dai to the exclusion of everything else and parroting false mojizas of the dai, spreading hatred for dai ane daawat na dushmano etc.
5. Step 5 carried out during the 52nd's era, was to make concerted attempts to successively and gradually elevate his status on a par with allah. All sorts of bogus titles and honorifics were added after his name, repression was stepped up and so was the collection of more money, invention of more headings under which to collect fees, and manufacturing of grand events and functions to impress the simpleton abdes, striking awe and terror into their hearts.
6. A strict dress code was imposed in the 70's which further regimented and isolated the community. Bohra women became misfits in the bigger world as their chances of fitting in were reduced and they were increasingly confined to their homes. Bohra men were encouraged to engage in petty businesses, they too became marginalised and redundant in professions with their radical islamic appearances.
7. The sinister isolation of the community and their deprivation from interacting with other cultures, religions and points of view further increased with the stepping up of more activities centred around the markaz/masjid. institutions such as weekly mohalla ni majlises, mass sitaabi functions, tabuddat na amal, zikra vaez's, and now the latest brainwave of the insane muffy - the daily thaali dabbas - etc etc have all served to create an inward looking, introverted community with blinkered vision who cannot perceive the world outside their tiny little well. The steady diet of 'dawat na dushman' and laanats on sunni's, other shia's, dai's opponents etc have all further compounded the feeling of a 'siege mentality' among most simple bohras. They view the world as 'us v/s them'.
8. In order to appease some of the hunger of ordinary abdes for ilm and at the same time in a masterful stroke of genius, the kothar started the practise of sabaks, to bind abdes into a sort of secret society and brainwash them, whilst feeding them cleverly distorted half-truths and even outright lies which eventually promote their agenda of total servitude to syedna and further their mission to loot.
9. The final nail in their master plan is the refusal to reveal their bogus 'secret taawil nu ilm' and the incriminating behaviour and practices of the dai, his parasitic family and their henchmen, the amils, from all publicly accessible sites such as maalumaat and zeninfo,
So as you can clearly see, the community has been turned into a pack of brainless robots, automatons who respond to commands when certain buttons are pressed. A constant drumming of 'tamara dai, ya hussain, kerbala, dawat na dushman, dai na dushman, maatam kari lejo, etc' have become subliminal messages which turns every abde into an emotional jelly, opens his wallets and makes him fall into reverse sajdas! aa bail mujhko maar!!
The enslavement of this once fine upstanding community is complete. they are now like well-trained but starving dogs who will gladly swallow any scraps thrown to them.
A careful analysis of bohra history over the last 7-8 decades will show that the kothar has actually and very cunningly carried out a very cleverly designed and deliberate plan to subjugate the community by depriving it of 'real' knowledge and thereby turning them into brainless idiots.
1. The 51st dai embarked on a crusade to collect all deeni books and scriptures in the possession of individual bohras and many trusts. This he did by promoting the concept of a grand archival library which would become the treasure house of knowledge, a' la the famed alexandria library which was the ancient world's greatest repository of knowledge and which got burned down, its invaluable treasures lost forever. This STS did by sweet-talking the ulemas and sethiya's of the day, cajoling some and even threatening those who refused to part with the rare and esoteric works in their possession with baraat. His amils and agents fanned out all over and contacted each and every wealthy bohra and trust. In this manner they seized all external sources of knowledge. this was step 1.
2. The 51st also carried out a systematic campaign to denigrate and cheapen the position and status of sheikhs and mullahs, who in the past were highly learned in our deen and islam. This he did by offering and appointing these titles to any and all who could afford to pay him huge sums in salaams and throw lavish ziyafats in his honor. Newly rich, crass and vulgar, immoral and unethical, people of low character, criminals, drunkards. all were welcome. Their source of income was not questioned, their ethics and morals were not examined. Now suddenly, these uncouth and unlettered were equal in rank to the elite scholars and men of refinement and integrity! this was step 2.
3. The amils of old, who were well educated and pious individuals and who imparted singular ilm during majlises and vaez's and who were only answerable to their jamaats, were now eased out and replaced with younger, brainwashed and indoctrinated ordinary abdes, sent from the kothar, who were trained like attack dogs at the 2 jamea's. These factory trained professional amils were specifically instructed to toe the kothar's line, improve 'collections' manifold, take a tough line with their flock and appoint a jamaat committee which would work in tandem with the amil to terrorise, bully and humiliate ordinary abdes. this was step 3.
4. Step 4 was to radically alter the syllabus of the jameas, remove all semblance of deep and esoteric philosophy and reflection on deen, and replace it with superficial knowledge on namaaz, traditions and aberrant practices as promoted by the 51st. Teaching the not-too-subtle art of tear-jerking and provocative vaez techniques, promoting the dai to the exclusion of everything else and parroting false mojizas of the dai, spreading hatred for dai ane daawat na dushmano etc.
5. Step 5 carried out during the 52nd's era, was to make concerted attempts to successively and gradually elevate his status on a par with allah. All sorts of bogus titles and honorifics were added after his name, repression was stepped up and so was the collection of more money, invention of more headings under which to collect fees, and manufacturing of grand events and functions to impress the simpleton abdes, striking awe and terror into their hearts.
6. A strict dress code was imposed in the 70's which further regimented and isolated the community. Bohra women became misfits in the bigger world as their chances of fitting in were reduced and they were increasingly confined to their homes. Bohra men were encouraged to engage in petty businesses, they too became marginalised and redundant in professions with their radical islamic appearances.
7. The sinister isolation of the community and their deprivation from interacting with other cultures, religions and points of view further increased with the stepping up of more activities centred around the markaz/masjid. institutions such as weekly mohalla ni majlises, mass sitaabi functions, tabuddat na amal, zikra vaez's, and now the latest brainwave of the insane muffy - the daily thaali dabbas - etc etc have all served to create an inward looking, introverted community with blinkered vision who cannot perceive the world outside their tiny little well. The steady diet of 'dawat na dushman' and laanats on sunni's, other shia's, dai's opponents etc have all further compounded the feeling of a 'siege mentality' among most simple bohras. They view the world as 'us v/s them'.
8. In order to appease some of the hunger of ordinary abdes for ilm and at the same time in a masterful stroke of genius, the kothar started the practise of sabaks, to bind abdes into a sort of secret society and brainwash them, whilst feeding them cleverly distorted half-truths and even outright lies which eventually promote their agenda of total servitude to syedna and further their mission to loot.
9. The final nail in their master plan is the refusal to reveal their bogus 'secret taawil nu ilm' and the incriminating behaviour and practices of the dai, his parasitic family and their henchmen, the amils, from all publicly accessible sites such as maalumaat and zeninfo,
So as you can clearly see, the community has been turned into a pack of brainless robots, automatons who respond to commands when certain buttons are pressed. A constant drumming of 'tamara dai, ya hussain, kerbala, dawat na dushman, dai na dushman, maatam kari lejo, etc' have become subliminal messages which turns every abde into an emotional jelly, opens his wallets and makes him fall into reverse sajdas! aa bail mujhko maar!!
The enslavement of this once fine upstanding community is complete. they are now like well-trained but starving dogs who will gladly swallow any scraps thrown to them.
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Posted by Tanzanian on October 07, 2000 at 17:58:14:
Talking about SAYEDNAS visits to Tanzania, way back in 1967-68, MOLA the Great was caught red handed by the Tanzanian Police laundering money and contravening the countries Foreign Exchange Act. He was declared a persona non grata, -unwanted and undesirable person- in Tanzania and was deported by the Gov’t within 24 hours. The whole Asian community was humiliated.
The local Africans could not differentiate between the Bohras and other Asians and so whenever Asians were seen in the streets they were branded as thieves, looters and criminals. We Bohras could not show our faces. At that time Why didn’t our MOLA dispense the MIRACLE ?
The story about the miracle of our MOLA in 1980/90: The truth is that during that time Tanzanians were facing a really hard time due to the bad policies of the Gov’t of the time. But then in 1984, the Gov’t changed hands. A new President was elected. Trade was liberalise and so the economy became strong. Things started getting better day by day. MOLA decided to visit Tanzania but as he had an executive order of persona non grata on his head he could not. So a lot of Zakat money changed hands and the executive order was revoked. MOLA visited Tanzania in 1987 and stayed for more than two months, accepting mehmani from the rich and collecting as much money as he could.
During his stay, being a smart and gifted politician he is MOLA decided to repair the damage. So again a substantial amount of Zakat money was spent in form donation to the Head of the State and so this facilitated MOLAS visit to the State House to meet the President. No awards were or have been bestowed on our MOLA by the Tanzania Gov’t.
During MOLAS recent hunting trip to Tanzania, the current Tanzanian President did not even acknowledge the presence of MOLA in the country. The Jamaat here tried its best to arrange MOLAS meeting with President using all the available means but were not successful and MOLA left Tanzania a dejected person.
So the story about the awards, miracles and blessings of the MOLA in Tanzania in 1980-90 is all lies.
Talking about SAYEDNAS visits to Tanzania, way back in 1967-68, MOLA the Great was caught red handed by the Tanzanian Police laundering money and contravening the countries Foreign Exchange Act. He was declared a persona non grata, -unwanted and undesirable person- in Tanzania and was deported by the Gov’t within 24 hours. The whole Asian community was humiliated.
The local Africans could not differentiate between the Bohras and other Asians and so whenever Asians were seen in the streets they were branded as thieves, looters and criminals. We Bohras could not show our faces. At that time Why didn’t our MOLA dispense the MIRACLE ?
The story about the miracle of our MOLA in 1980/90: The truth is that during that time Tanzanians were facing a really hard time due to the bad policies of the Gov’t of the time. But then in 1984, the Gov’t changed hands. A new President was elected. Trade was liberalise and so the economy became strong. Things started getting better day by day. MOLA decided to visit Tanzania but as he had an executive order of persona non grata on his head he could not. So a lot of Zakat money changed hands and the executive order was revoked. MOLA visited Tanzania in 1987 and stayed for more than two months, accepting mehmani from the rich and collecting as much money as he could.
During his stay, being a smart and gifted politician he is MOLA decided to repair the damage. So again a substantial amount of Zakat money was spent in form donation to the Head of the State and so this facilitated MOLAS visit to the State House to meet the President. No awards were or have been bestowed on our MOLA by the Tanzania Gov’t.
During MOLAS recent hunting trip to Tanzania, the current Tanzanian President did not even acknowledge the presence of MOLA in the country. The Jamaat here tried its best to arrange MOLAS meeting with President using all the available means but were not successful and MOLA left Tanzania a dejected person.
So the story about the awards, miracles and blessings of the MOLA in Tanzania in 1980-90 is all lies.
Re: Archives From The PDB Website Concerning Bohra Issues.
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How Bohras in Pakistan were arrested and heavy fines imposed on them for their fraudulent activities.
As far as I have observed, I don't think or hope for any revolution among the Bohras. These peoples are so much brained washed, particularly the young generation that they only think of Mola and Mola ... no one else, not even their Parents. Just 2 days back on 12.Feb.2013, A Young Bohra by the Name of Idrees Bhai Rangwala was shot and killed at his Sanitary Shop at Gulbahar Colony Nazimabad. His Brother Critically Injured was rushed to the Hospital. 2 other people at his shop who were normal customer were also shot dead in stray Firing. I was at the time in the Market for shopping. I came to know that the deceased person was from Haidry Mohallaha. After Magrib Namaz I went to Haidry from my home in Clifton, just to get some detail news. When I reached Haidry I was shocked to see that every Bohra is going toward Masjid for Tabudat Amal and Darees . No one was interested to talk or hear about the dead person. Our community has become what we call in URDU ' BEY HISS' When they wake in the Morning they start Talking of Maula, Tabudat,Jaman, Niaz and Kothar and these topic ends till they go to sleep.
Last Year in Feb. 2012 More than 1400 Bohras and their Companies were caught in Sales Tax Fraud. Out of these 340 Bohras Individuals were involved in Making Fake Input and Output Invoices including Fake Bill of entries and Custom Documents. Other Bohras were the Peoples who were buying the input invoices for claim with the Government. It came into notice when suddenly the FBR (Federal Bureau of Revenue) found that their Server were Hacked in Lahore and Billons of Rupees Fraud made through Fake invoice. They with the Help of FIA (Federal Investigation Agency) and CID start probing the matter in detail.
Raids started and 350 Bohras were caught and FIR was launched. They were thrown in Main Central Jail with strict interrogation. Other 1000 Bohras were issued notice to Deposit the Fraud amount into the Government Treasury. Many with the big amount of 20 Crore and more were asked to pay in 12 installments with advance cheques. FIA and Police Raided Bohras Home in whole Karachi between 2 to 5 am in the Morning and Handcuffed the Bohras and took them to interrogations cell from where their they were took to the High Court and to jail. 90 % Bohras had a Long Beard and Topi. The FIA official abused them and gave vulgar remarks on the communal activities. They said that “ You people make frauds of Billions of Rupees and give money for charity to your community in the form of Zakat , Niaz and wajebat” Don’t ever your Mullahs ask you where these huge amount comes from ? It is interested to note that Burhani Guard youngsters were also involved in selling the Fake input invoice and they were also in the Lockup.
The FBR and Police with Special Guns and Commandos raided Bohras Shop and took Many Mian Sahib to the CID Office where they were tortured and then ordered them to issue the cheques in 12 installments, because these Mian sahibs were involved in more then 80 – 90 Crore frauds. I want to confess that I was also issued a notice to pay 10 lakhs. I did astakfar and for 40 nights I Prayed Bihori namaz and 1000 Astakfar. I cried in Sajda and asked GOD to forgive me, though I had done a small crime in comparison to other Bohras but I know that Wrong is wrong and theft is theft no matter the amount. I know that what is done can’t be undone, but from that day I am trying to be honest and since 1 year I am paying the actual Tax to the Government from what I get.
Out of 350 Bohras, many ran for Dubai and Malaysia in one night. Mulla Tahir Bhai Karimi , and His brother Muhammad Bhai NKD ( Godhrawala) were sent for special interrogation to Islamabad, Once when I went to the FIA Cell to meet one of my friend I saw some Horrible scene. Bohras Youngsters along with Burhani Guard Youngsters were kneeled down and were crying and praying to God Almighty to help them and forgive them. Many were doing Matam and some were reciting Yasin. Farman from the Kothar came that Mumin should avoid wearing Topi when they are Taken to Court. Kothar also said that we can’t do anything as Crime has to pay.
The Head of CBR Karachi Division was Mahnoor Baluch. He was the Man of Principal. Bohras offered him millions of Rupees to release them just for a day or two so they may take the flight to Dubai, but he refused. Instead he interviewed many bohras and recorded the statement. He said when I interviewed the Bohra People some of the Youngsters said that they don’t get any sorts of help from their community. They said that the community asks them for some sort of Wajibat and Sabeel (Other taxes) which they are unable to pay, so to survive in the community they have to adopt these types of Fraud. Some said that they have to go for Ziarat and 10 days Muharam with the Pir Saheb. Many Big Mia Sahib confessed that they have to offer Ziafat and pay more than the normal people so they have to take the Fraud Path.
In the End the Head of the CBR said that Someday I will go to Mumbai and Visit the Pir Sahib and give him the recording of his followers.
After 2 months in Jail all the Bohra’s were release from the Jail on Bail which minimum amounted to 25 Lakhs per Bail and 3 + Crore for each person to pay in 24 months. After getting out of Jail the Bohras asked the High Court for stay order as they are unable to pay the amount. I have come to know that names of these Bohras have also been placed in the Exit Control List.
No one can challenge me or my statement as I was Myself involved in this case, but as I was the input buyer I and many other Bohras were protected by the SUPREME Court Judgment , which is true in the eyes of our law but I know that I am ‘ GUNHAGAR’ in front of my GOD .
I want to mention that 100% Bohras Businessman were involved in this Fraud. Even the Jamat Secretaries or the Bhai Sahebs with individual Business were issued notices.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8068&p=107637&hilit ... ce#p107637
As far as I have observed, I don't think or hope for any revolution among the Bohras. These peoples are so much brained washed, particularly the young generation that they only think of Mola and Mola ... no one else, not even their Parents. Just 2 days back on 12.Feb.2013, A Young Bohra by the Name of Idrees Bhai Rangwala was shot and killed at his Sanitary Shop at Gulbahar Colony Nazimabad. His Brother Critically Injured was rushed to the Hospital. 2 other people at his shop who were normal customer were also shot dead in stray Firing. I was at the time in the Market for shopping. I came to know that the deceased person was from Haidry Mohallaha. After Magrib Namaz I went to Haidry from my home in Clifton, just to get some detail news. When I reached Haidry I was shocked to see that every Bohra is going toward Masjid for Tabudat Amal and Darees . No one was interested to talk or hear about the dead person. Our community has become what we call in URDU ' BEY HISS' When they wake in the Morning they start Talking of Maula, Tabudat,Jaman, Niaz and Kothar and these topic ends till they go to sleep.
Last Year in Feb. 2012 More than 1400 Bohras and their Companies were caught in Sales Tax Fraud. Out of these 340 Bohras Individuals were involved in Making Fake Input and Output Invoices including Fake Bill of entries and Custom Documents. Other Bohras were the Peoples who were buying the input invoices for claim with the Government. It came into notice when suddenly the FBR (Federal Bureau of Revenue) found that their Server were Hacked in Lahore and Billons of Rupees Fraud made through Fake invoice. They with the Help of FIA (Federal Investigation Agency) and CID start probing the matter in detail.
Raids started and 350 Bohras were caught and FIR was launched. They were thrown in Main Central Jail with strict interrogation. Other 1000 Bohras were issued notice to Deposit the Fraud amount into the Government Treasury. Many with the big amount of 20 Crore and more were asked to pay in 12 installments with advance cheques. FIA and Police Raided Bohras Home in whole Karachi between 2 to 5 am in the Morning and Handcuffed the Bohras and took them to interrogations cell from where their they were took to the High Court and to jail. 90 % Bohras had a Long Beard and Topi. The FIA official abused them and gave vulgar remarks on the communal activities. They said that “ You people make frauds of Billions of Rupees and give money for charity to your community in the form of Zakat , Niaz and wajebat” Don’t ever your Mullahs ask you where these huge amount comes from ? It is interested to note that Burhani Guard youngsters were also involved in selling the Fake input invoice and they were also in the Lockup.
The FBR and Police with Special Guns and Commandos raided Bohras Shop and took Many Mian Sahib to the CID Office where they were tortured and then ordered them to issue the cheques in 12 installments, because these Mian sahibs were involved in more then 80 – 90 Crore frauds. I want to confess that I was also issued a notice to pay 10 lakhs. I did astakfar and for 40 nights I Prayed Bihori namaz and 1000 Astakfar. I cried in Sajda and asked GOD to forgive me, though I had done a small crime in comparison to other Bohras but I know that Wrong is wrong and theft is theft no matter the amount. I know that what is done can’t be undone, but from that day I am trying to be honest and since 1 year I am paying the actual Tax to the Government from what I get.
Out of 350 Bohras, many ran for Dubai and Malaysia in one night. Mulla Tahir Bhai Karimi , and His brother Muhammad Bhai NKD ( Godhrawala) were sent for special interrogation to Islamabad, Once when I went to the FIA Cell to meet one of my friend I saw some Horrible scene. Bohras Youngsters along with Burhani Guard Youngsters were kneeled down and were crying and praying to God Almighty to help them and forgive them. Many were doing Matam and some were reciting Yasin. Farman from the Kothar came that Mumin should avoid wearing Topi when they are Taken to Court. Kothar also said that we can’t do anything as Crime has to pay.
The Head of CBR Karachi Division was Mahnoor Baluch. He was the Man of Principal. Bohras offered him millions of Rupees to release them just for a day or two so they may take the flight to Dubai, but he refused. Instead he interviewed many bohras and recorded the statement. He said when I interviewed the Bohra People some of the Youngsters said that they don’t get any sorts of help from their community. They said that the community asks them for some sort of Wajibat and Sabeel (Other taxes) which they are unable to pay, so to survive in the community they have to adopt these types of Fraud. Some said that they have to go for Ziarat and 10 days Muharam with the Pir Saheb. Many Big Mia Sahib confessed that they have to offer Ziafat and pay more than the normal people so they have to take the Fraud Path.
In the End the Head of the CBR said that Someday I will go to Mumbai and Visit the Pir Sahib and give him the recording of his followers.
After 2 months in Jail all the Bohra’s were release from the Jail on Bail which minimum amounted to 25 Lakhs per Bail and 3 + Crore for each person to pay in 24 months. After getting out of Jail the Bohras asked the High Court for stay order as they are unable to pay the amount. I have come to know that names of these Bohras have also been placed in the Exit Control List.
No one can challenge me or my statement as I was Myself involved in this case, but as I was the input buyer I and many other Bohras were protected by the SUPREME Court Judgment , which is true in the eyes of our law but I know that I am ‘ GUNHAGAR’ in front of my GOD .
I want to mention that 100% Bohras Businessman were involved in this Fraud. Even the Jamat Secretaries or the Bhai Sahebs with individual Business were issued notices.
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How Bohras in Pakistan were arrested and heavy fines imposed on them for their fraudulent activities. - Part 2.
Federal Board of Revenue unearths tax fraud
IMRAN ADNAN Tuesday, 6 Mar 2012 11:13 pm | Comments (0)
FBR
LAHORE - Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) has unearthed Rs500 million tax evasion scam in which some eight companies are involved that helped 600 taxpayers in claiming illegal tax adjustments, Profit learnt on Tuesday. FBR officials disclosed that on receipt of tip off, Lahore Directorate of Intelligence and Investigation, initiated probe related to a tax fraud on the basis of fake or flying invoices and identified eight fraudulent companies, including Sunny Traders, Elahi Traders, Faisal Enterprises, Shalimar Trade Links, Rehman Paper Mart, Shaheen Trade Linkers, Heaven Trade Lines and Azure Enterprises. Initial investigation reveals that these companies issued fake or flying invoices to over 600 other taxpayers to enable them to claim inadmissible or illegal input tax adjustment, causing a loss of nearly half-a-billion-rupees to national exchequer. Official summary made available to Profit indicates that M/S Sunny Traders has caused a loss of over Rs135 million, M/S Elahi Traders Rs71.105 million, M/S Faisal Enterprises Rs66 million, M/S Shalimar Trade Links Rs50.862 million, M/S Rehman Paper Mart Rs29.703 million, M/S Shaheen Trade Linkers Rs28.990 million, M/S Heaven Trade Lines Rs19.140 million and M/S Azure Enterprises 72.661 million. Lahore Directorate of Intelligence had also lodged FIRs against these fraudsters, on Monday, for investigation, prosecution and ancillary in these causes. To recover the tax amount from fraudsters, FBR sources disclosed that over 600 beneficiaries would be investigated to recover the government revenue. The board has also constituted special teams to expedite the investigation process.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/03 ... tax-fraud/
Actually the Fraud started From the Year 2002 when we had to file the monthly return manually (Since 2007 efiling is mandatory) but due to involvement of Many Government officials and FBR Peoples this crime was hidden from the Government. Many Auditors were also arrested and put Behind the Bars as they took heavy Bribe and commissions to clear the Audit. More than 500 Different Fake companies were involved in Karachi only. In Karachi 75% were the Bohras who were also operating and issuing Lahore Invoices. Now Each Companies had a Bohra Head and around 15 - 20 Bohra Youngsters who were tasked to delivery Invoices, look for new clients and Recover Money from their Client. The income was so quick that many Bohras whom I know very well didn't had a Bicycle some 2 years Back, But after getting in the Tax Fraud Business I saw them Driving Honda Civic and Toyota Coralla with a Price Tag of Above 15 Lacks excluding Tax. Many Guys shifted from a single room apartment to a Ground + 1 Floor Bungalows.
As I belong to the Main Hardware Market I have noticed that Bohras Youngsters are not getting Jobs in any Shop or offices. The Owner of the shops especially the Non Bohras are Fed up with these Bohras. They steal from the shop, they ran away without informing, they come late at the shops. Many shop owners complain that these Bohras gets absent from the work and when they are asked on the next day they excuse of not coming because of Pir Sahib Ki Waez Thee. They also skip away before the shop closing time with excuse that they have to attend the Majlis or Daress. I have 6 employees in my shop and none is Bohra, because I face the same Problem. I kicked all the Bohras out as I was tired of hearing same nonsense every day.
Sir, I think the problem lies somewhere in Preaching and teaching. In Pakistan we have to study Islamiat as a compulsory subject from class 2 to intermediate (11 Years), what I have learned in this 11 years is totally different from what I hear and being taught by our Mullahs. In Islam there's a concept for Reward if you do good and Punishment if you do evil or bad. But contrary to this we are taught that if we are punished for our Gunaha we will be saved by Maula Now tell me what feeling and thinking will be created in Bohras Minds from this concept. Bohras claim 'Koi baat Nahi Maula Chey Ney apney Bachawa wastey’ So they don't care for their Crime.
I still remember the Time with tears in my eyes, when the Special FIA Teams Raided Bohra's Houses with Guns and lockup trucks and took Bohras by Hand Cuff. Most embarrassing thing is that 99% Bohras in Karachi resides in Bohra Mohalla and compounds, so at night between 2-4 am when the raids were conducted People from Different Building came out in street to watch the humiliation of Bohras, and next day it became the hot Topics and gossips in Jamat Khana and Masjid. Even the Non Bohras were Amazed when they came to know of Bohra's Fraud Activity, because in their views we the symbol of Discipline and Honesty. What I am unable to understand is 'why those People were not saved from punishment as we are told in masjid' Will this condition applies in Kaber only and not in the Physical Word?
One most interesting thing I want to mention that Few People from 'MARASIYA Party' who recites Medhey and Marsiya in MAsjid are also involved and FIR was Launched. After passing some good days in Jail they are out on Bail. God Forbids This is Mazak to Ahle Bayt when these people recites their Marsiya and do Matam.
Ask any of your Friend or Family members in Karachi about the incident, but before answering you they must take the Oath on QURAN. Ask them how raids were conducted. You know what? Most of the Bohras in Karachi are Business man. And 100% of them have been the Buyer's of Input Invoice. So It would be embarrassing for them to confess. Amreli Steel Paid 80 crore and Saify Iron Mart (All Shk's) Paid 50 Crore. Millwalas and Valika Walas also returned some Big amount. Haidyr Jamat Secretary and Clifton Jamat Secretary also returned the amount.
Federal Board of Revenue unearths tax fraud
IMRAN ADNAN Tuesday, 6 Mar 2012 11:13 pm | Comments (0)
FBR
LAHORE - Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) has unearthed Rs500 million tax evasion scam in which some eight companies are involved that helped 600 taxpayers in claiming illegal tax adjustments, Profit learnt on Tuesday. FBR officials disclosed that on receipt of tip off, Lahore Directorate of Intelligence and Investigation, initiated probe related to a tax fraud on the basis of fake or flying invoices and identified eight fraudulent companies, including Sunny Traders, Elahi Traders, Faisal Enterprises, Shalimar Trade Links, Rehman Paper Mart, Shaheen Trade Linkers, Heaven Trade Lines and Azure Enterprises. Initial investigation reveals that these companies issued fake or flying invoices to over 600 other taxpayers to enable them to claim inadmissible or illegal input tax adjustment, causing a loss of nearly half-a-billion-rupees to national exchequer. Official summary made available to Profit indicates that M/S Sunny Traders has caused a loss of over Rs135 million, M/S Elahi Traders Rs71.105 million, M/S Faisal Enterprises Rs66 million, M/S Shalimar Trade Links Rs50.862 million, M/S Rehman Paper Mart Rs29.703 million, M/S Shaheen Trade Linkers Rs28.990 million, M/S Heaven Trade Lines Rs19.140 million and M/S Azure Enterprises 72.661 million. Lahore Directorate of Intelligence had also lodged FIRs against these fraudsters, on Monday, for investigation, prosecution and ancillary in these causes. To recover the tax amount from fraudsters, FBR sources disclosed that over 600 beneficiaries would be investigated to recover the government revenue. The board has also constituted special teams to expedite the investigation process.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/03 ... tax-fraud/
Actually the Fraud started From the Year 2002 when we had to file the monthly return manually (Since 2007 efiling is mandatory) but due to involvement of Many Government officials and FBR Peoples this crime was hidden from the Government. Many Auditors were also arrested and put Behind the Bars as they took heavy Bribe and commissions to clear the Audit. More than 500 Different Fake companies were involved in Karachi only. In Karachi 75% were the Bohras who were also operating and issuing Lahore Invoices. Now Each Companies had a Bohra Head and around 15 - 20 Bohra Youngsters who were tasked to delivery Invoices, look for new clients and Recover Money from their Client. The income was so quick that many Bohras whom I know very well didn't had a Bicycle some 2 years Back, But after getting in the Tax Fraud Business I saw them Driving Honda Civic and Toyota Coralla with a Price Tag of Above 15 Lacks excluding Tax. Many Guys shifted from a single room apartment to a Ground + 1 Floor Bungalows.
As I belong to the Main Hardware Market I have noticed that Bohras Youngsters are not getting Jobs in any Shop or offices. The Owner of the shops especially the Non Bohras are Fed up with these Bohras. They steal from the shop, they ran away without informing, they come late at the shops. Many shop owners complain that these Bohras gets absent from the work and when they are asked on the next day they excuse of not coming because of Pir Sahib Ki Waez Thee. They also skip away before the shop closing time with excuse that they have to attend the Majlis or Daress. I have 6 employees in my shop and none is Bohra, because I face the same Problem. I kicked all the Bohras out as I was tired of hearing same nonsense every day.
Sir, I think the problem lies somewhere in Preaching and teaching. In Pakistan we have to study Islamiat as a compulsory subject from class 2 to intermediate (11 Years), what I have learned in this 11 years is totally different from what I hear and being taught by our Mullahs. In Islam there's a concept for Reward if you do good and Punishment if you do evil or bad. But contrary to this we are taught that if we are punished for our Gunaha we will be saved by Maula Now tell me what feeling and thinking will be created in Bohras Minds from this concept. Bohras claim 'Koi baat Nahi Maula Chey Ney apney Bachawa wastey’ So they don't care for their Crime.
I still remember the Time with tears in my eyes, when the Special FIA Teams Raided Bohra's Houses with Guns and lockup trucks and took Bohras by Hand Cuff. Most embarrassing thing is that 99% Bohras in Karachi resides in Bohra Mohalla and compounds, so at night between 2-4 am when the raids were conducted People from Different Building came out in street to watch the humiliation of Bohras, and next day it became the hot Topics and gossips in Jamat Khana and Masjid. Even the Non Bohras were Amazed when they came to know of Bohra's Fraud Activity, because in their views we the symbol of Discipline and Honesty. What I am unable to understand is 'why those People were not saved from punishment as we are told in masjid' Will this condition applies in Kaber only and not in the Physical Word?
One most interesting thing I want to mention that Few People from 'MARASIYA Party' who recites Medhey and Marsiya in MAsjid are also involved and FIR was Launched. After passing some good days in Jail they are out on Bail. God Forbids This is Mazak to Ahle Bayt when these people recites their Marsiya and do Matam.
Ask any of your Friend or Family members in Karachi about the incident, but before answering you they must take the Oath on QURAN. Ask them how raids were conducted. You know what? Most of the Bohras in Karachi are Business man. And 100% of them have been the Buyer's of Input Invoice. So It would be embarrassing for them to confess. Amreli Steel Paid 80 crore and Saify Iron Mart (All Shk's) Paid 50 Crore. Millwalas and Valika Walas also returned some Big amount. Haidyr Jamat Secretary and Clifton Jamat Secretary also returned the amount.
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Well ! this attitude is reflected even by bohra businessowners. They do not prefer to employ bohra staff with similar reasons. In fact it was surprising to hear from few sheikh-titled businessmen that it is detrimental to hire bohra staff as they keep nagging for leaves or time off and Muharram ( 10 days) have to be compulsory off also business secrets are at risk of social gossip.Bohras Youngsters are not getting Jobs in any Shop or offices. The Owner of the shops especially the Non Bohras are Fed up with these Bohras. They steal from the shop, they ran away without informing, they come late at the shops. Many shop owners complain that these Bohras gets absent from the work and when they are asked on the next day they excuse of not coming because of Pir Sahib Ki Waez Thee. They also skip away before the shop closing time with excuse that they have to attend the Majlis or Daress. I have 6 employees in my shop and none is Bohra, because I face the same Problem. I kicked all the Bohras out as I was tired of hearing same nonsense every day.
Many ambitious bohra youngsters start doing free lancing business in Kuwait, without following rules and regulations of the country. They overlook these requirements with impunity and confidence or justification that “maula-bachaavi-lese” . for them doing anything to make money and showering them on “maula” will make their efforts “paak”.the problem lies somewhere in Preaching and teaching. …………. But contrary to this we are taught that if we are punished for our Gunaha we will be saved by Maula Now tell me what feeling and thinking will be created in Bohras Minds from this concept. Bohras claim 'Koi baat Nahi Maula Chey Ney apney Bachawa wastey’ So they don't care for their Crime.
They have superiority complex & confidence of higher beings above the worldly laws under the leadership of “savior maula”.. the situation is worsened when the leadership promotes such thought and emboldens the abdes in their confidence. Resulting in many bohras ended up in jail and are in deep legal trouble. Latching on to the hope that “maula” will come to their “haajat-ravaai”. These notion of “haajat-ravaai” is so ingrained in their minds that they don’t thank Allah and the real helper / savior of these abdes. Instead smirk saying it was “maula” who saved them.
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bro
it is same everywhere atleast in majority everywhere in world.
some corporate houses make money by devious method breaking law of the land
in conninvance with govt officials.--not all but some.
they dont give increament to thier employees, but give big amount of donation
to mandir, masjid,and church
and get satisfaction or try to overcome guilt feeling
it is same everywhere atleast in majority everywhere in world.
some corporate houses make money by devious method breaking law of the land
in conninvance with govt officials.--not all but some.
they dont give increament to thier employees, but give big amount of donation
to mandir, masjid,and church
and get satisfaction or try to overcome guilt feeling
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ghulam mohamed:
'new' posted the following but you have not responded.
Gulambhai please explain Red Handed
I am also anxious to know.
Gulambhai, you seem to be on the inside track of current and former Bohra issues, namely India, Pakistan, Dubai, Kuwait, East Africa and so on. Bhai, aap to sau bandar ke wepari hei. Aap ke tentacles to bahutse desho me pheile huwe hei.
'new' posted the following but you have not responded.
Gulambhai please explain Red Handed
I am also anxious to know.
Gulambhai, you seem to be on the inside track of current and former Bohra issues, namely India, Pakistan, Dubai, Kuwait, East Africa and so on. Bhai, aap to sau bandar ke wepari hei. Aap ke tentacles to bahutse desho me pheile huwe hei.
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Actually I didn't get the drift !Mkenya wrote:ghulam mohamed:
'new' posted the following but you have not responded.
Gulambhai please explain Red Handed
I am also anxious to know.
You could even say "Don ka intezar to 11 mulko ki police ko hai lekin Don ko pakadna mushkil hi nahi, namumkeen bhi hai" Just replace Don with GM and police with KotharMkenya wrote:Aap ke tentacles to bahutse desho me pheile huwe hei.
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Humble request to Daiz-Zaman
Post by S. Insaf on Sun Jul 01, 2007.
Respected Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin Saheb,
Head and well-wisher of the Dawoodi Bohra Community,
Badas-Salaam,
Dear Sayedna Saheb, the selfish coterie around you may not have kept you apprised you about the over all pathetic condition of loyal followers. There is a disastrous poverty all over and your followers are the worst sufferers. Take for example the India’s commercial city, Mumbai where hundreds of rich and filthy rich Bohras reside. In the same city there are thousands of Dawoodi Bohra Mumineen are living in acute poverty especially hutment areas of Santacruz, Bandra, Kurla and Jogeshwari.
Sayedna Saheb, at your old age I do not want to trouble you to go that far. But in Mumbai’s Bohra Mohalla (Taherabad) where you often come for Ziyarat of your dear father please some day get down from your car visit a few houses of ordinary Bohras living there. I know the inside of these houses as I regularly go there for distribution of medicines to the needy. Believe me Sayedna Saheb there are hundreds of apanawalas who are living a life of hell. They are afraid to accept medicines from me but poverty compels them to do so as they find no other alternative. I can see the fear on their faces.
I was a part of teams of members of Bohra Youth of Udaipur who had gone to various places in Gujarat and Saurashtra with relief material after Gujarat earthquake and Gujarat riot. The poverty of Mumineen in those small towns and villages that I have witnessed is also beyond description.
On the other side Allah has bestowed on you and your family unlimited Niyamats and best of the comforts – Palaces with all the luxuries of life, Wealth that would last for your seven generations, Permanent sources of income, Several valuable properties all over the world, Children and millions of devoted followers etc.
Respected Sayedna Saheb, I want to make a humble request. Please from this Ramazan onward advice your administration to stop collecting Sabeel and Wajebat from Mumineen and instruct them to emphasize on Mumineen to spend their due Zakat amount on their poor relatives, neighbours etc. as per Qura’nic injunctions.
At this age of 96 you can take this bold step the community will be ever grateful to you and history would always remember you.
Progressives will salute you.
Well-wisher of Dawat,
Saifuddin Insaf
Post by S. Insaf on Sun Jul 01, 2007.
Respected Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin Saheb,
Head and well-wisher of the Dawoodi Bohra Community,
Badas-Salaam,
Dear Sayedna Saheb, the selfish coterie around you may not have kept you apprised you about the over all pathetic condition of loyal followers. There is a disastrous poverty all over and your followers are the worst sufferers. Take for example the India’s commercial city, Mumbai where hundreds of rich and filthy rich Bohras reside. In the same city there are thousands of Dawoodi Bohra Mumineen are living in acute poverty especially hutment areas of Santacruz, Bandra, Kurla and Jogeshwari.
Sayedna Saheb, at your old age I do not want to trouble you to go that far. But in Mumbai’s Bohra Mohalla (Taherabad) where you often come for Ziyarat of your dear father please some day get down from your car visit a few houses of ordinary Bohras living there. I know the inside of these houses as I regularly go there for distribution of medicines to the needy. Believe me Sayedna Saheb there are hundreds of apanawalas who are living a life of hell. They are afraid to accept medicines from me but poverty compels them to do so as they find no other alternative. I can see the fear on their faces.
I was a part of teams of members of Bohra Youth of Udaipur who had gone to various places in Gujarat and Saurashtra with relief material after Gujarat earthquake and Gujarat riot. The poverty of Mumineen in those small towns and villages that I have witnessed is also beyond description.
On the other side Allah has bestowed on you and your family unlimited Niyamats and best of the comforts – Palaces with all the luxuries of life, Wealth that would last for your seven generations, Permanent sources of income, Several valuable properties all over the world, Children and millions of devoted followers etc.
Respected Sayedna Saheb, I want to make a humble request. Please from this Ramazan onward advice your administration to stop collecting Sabeel and Wajebat from Mumineen and instruct them to emphasize on Mumineen to spend their due Zakat amount on their poor relatives, neighbours etc. as per Qura’nic injunctions.
At this age of 96 you can take this bold step the community will be ever grateful to you and history would always remember you.
Progressives will salute you.
Well-wisher of Dawat,
Saifuddin Insaf
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FORCED TO CELEBRATE DAI'S BIRTHDAY
8th May 2007
Respected Shahzada Sahebs,
Badas Salaam, we the Mumineen of Coimbatore draw your attention to our earlier letters in which we have informed various acts of the Ayanul Jamat Members, of harassing and humiliating Mumineen. We expected your immediate intervention in replacing all the Ayanul Jamat members for the honest functioning of the Jamaat but surprisingly no action seems to have been taken. The harassment and humiliation though has increased. The mumeneen who had submitted a memorandum objecting to the wrong doing of the Ayanul Jamaat have had to face their wrath. Amongst them few Mumineen have begged pardon just to safe guard their functions. All this has been mentioned in our previous letters, but our pleas and complaints have fallen on deaf ears. The Ayans’ and Amil Saheb’s explanation is that nothing happens without your permission!
All limits were crossed on the day of our Beloved Aqa Moula (TUS)’s Milad. Under the leadership of the temporary Amil Saheb Shaikh Yasir Ali, Ustad of Jamia; Members of Ayanul Jamaat - Sh. Moiyyed Dahodwala, Chairman, Sh. Aliasger Gheewala, Secretary, Mulla Shabbir Vagh, Jt. Secretary, Mulla Firoz Dak, Treasurer, & Mulla Abbas Limbdiwala, member, have stormed around 25 shops in the city threatening them to shut down or face severe consequences. Customers sitting in the shops and general public on the road were shocked with this behaviour and wondered what a way to celebrate a Leader’s Birthday!
This though was not enough. The Amil Saheb later in the majlis announced the names of the shops that were not closed and insulted their owners by proclaiming them Aqa Moula (TUS)'s enemies. Shops everywhere in Mumbai, Chennai, Calcutta, Bangalore, Secunderabad, etc., were open. In spite of this we Mumineen of Coimbatore became Aqa Moula’s enemies by opening our shops and were degraded openly in the majlis by Amil Saheb himself!
After this, few of us went to Sh. Yasir Ali demanding an explanation and after a heated argument which prolonged for 2 hours, he apologised for his behaviour. The damage though has been done! We have lost our patience. Few of us wanted to go to the Police & the human rights commission but have deferred from doing so on intervention by elders and keeping Aqa Moula (TUS)'s dignity in mind.
We request you once again to change the entire Ayanul Jamaat committee with immediate effect. All the Jamaat accounts including the Jamaat Khana accounts need to be scrutinised for discrepancies for the past seven years. Also there was a surplus amount of Rs. 28 lakhs collected for Aqa Moula (TUS)’s Ziafat which has vanished into thin air.
The Amil Saheb of Coimbatore, Syedi Abi Tamim Bhai Saheb is biased. Disrespecting Mumineen's sentiments by walking away from their jamans & burials is the lowest anyone can get. He also was inaccessible at the Samuh Niqah ceremony at Bangalore when his raza was required by us Mumineen to participate in the function. This kind of behaviour from a member of Kasre Ali is unworthy of his high post. His actions have shaken our belief and diminished our trust on the Kasre Ali.
This is our last appeal to you after which we shall be forced to take extreme action. In today’s scenario the media is very easily accessible, and so are high authorities such as the President and the Chief Justice…
History stands witness that whenever the atrocities become unbearable, there is bound to be a revolution!!!
Your immediate favourable response is awaited.
Wassalaam.
Abde Syedna (TUS)
8th May 2007
Respected Shahzada Sahebs,
Badas Salaam, we the Mumineen of Coimbatore draw your attention to our earlier letters in which we have informed various acts of the Ayanul Jamat Members, of harassing and humiliating Mumineen. We expected your immediate intervention in replacing all the Ayanul Jamat members for the honest functioning of the Jamaat but surprisingly no action seems to have been taken. The harassment and humiliation though has increased. The mumeneen who had submitted a memorandum objecting to the wrong doing of the Ayanul Jamaat have had to face their wrath. Amongst them few Mumineen have begged pardon just to safe guard their functions. All this has been mentioned in our previous letters, but our pleas and complaints have fallen on deaf ears. The Ayans’ and Amil Saheb’s explanation is that nothing happens without your permission!
All limits were crossed on the day of our Beloved Aqa Moula (TUS)’s Milad. Under the leadership of the temporary Amil Saheb Shaikh Yasir Ali, Ustad of Jamia; Members of Ayanul Jamaat - Sh. Moiyyed Dahodwala, Chairman, Sh. Aliasger Gheewala, Secretary, Mulla Shabbir Vagh, Jt. Secretary, Mulla Firoz Dak, Treasurer, & Mulla Abbas Limbdiwala, member, have stormed around 25 shops in the city threatening them to shut down or face severe consequences. Customers sitting in the shops and general public on the road were shocked with this behaviour and wondered what a way to celebrate a Leader’s Birthday!
This though was not enough. The Amil Saheb later in the majlis announced the names of the shops that were not closed and insulted their owners by proclaiming them Aqa Moula (TUS)'s enemies. Shops everywhere in Mumbai, Chennai, Calcutta, Bangalore, Secunderabad, etc., were open. In spite of this we Mumineen of Coimbatore became Aqa Moula’s enemies by opening our shops and were degraded openly in the majlis by Amil Saheb himself!
After this, few of us went to Sh. Yasir Ali demanding an explanation and after a heated argument which prolonged for 2 hours, he apologised for his behaviour. The damage though has been done! We have lost our patience. Few of us wanted to go to the Police & the human rights commission but have deferred from doing so on intervention by elders and keeping Aqa Moula (TUS)'s dignity in mind.
We request you once again to change the entire Ayanul Jamaat committee with immediate effect. All the Jamaat accounts including the Jamaat Khana accounts need to be scrutinised for discrepancies for the past seven years. Also there was a surplus amount of Rs. 28 lakhs collected for Aqa Moula (TUS)’s Ziafat which has vanished into thin air.
The Amil Saheb of Coimbatore, Syedi Abi Tamim Bhai Saheb is biased. Disrespecting Mumineen's sentiments by walking away from their jamans & burials is the lowest anyone can get. He also was inaccessible at the Samuh Niqah ceremony at Bangalore when his raza was required by us Mumineen to participate in the function. This kind of behaviour from a member of Kasre Ali is unworthy of his high post. His actions have shaken our belief and diminished our trust on the Kasre Ali.
This is our last appeal to you after which we shall be forced to take extreme action. In today’s scenario the media is very easily accessible, and so are high authorities such as the President and the Chief Justice…
History stands witness that whenever the atrocities become unbearable, there is bound to be a revolution!!!
Your immediate favourable response is awaited.
Wassalaam.
Abde Syedna (TUS)
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Ghulambhai: This paragraph copied from one of your posts on August 25th. under the current heading.
Talking about SAYEDNAS visits to Tanzania, way back in 1967-68, MOLA the Great was caught red handed by the Tanzanian Police laundering money and contravening the countries Foreign Exchange Act. He was declared a persona non grata, -unwanted and undesirable person- in Tanzania and was deported by the Gov’t within 24 hours. The whole Asian community was humiliated.
On a relevant point, on his deportation, Burhanuddin Saheb transited through Mombasa where a tumultuous crowd of weeping Bohras greeted him. A rumour was spread through the community that some of the Bohra philantrophists in Tanzania had orchestrated the deportation by using their influence in the Tanzania Government.
On another point, Saifuddin Saheb was the guest of Amarbhai of Kampala. At ziafat time, Kothar's yes-men, disputed that the salaam envelope contained less money than had been agreed to. On being informed of this Saifuddin Saheb expressed his outrage and decided to leave Amarbhai's house. In spite of efforts by a lot of prominent Bohras of Kampala the then Dai left. The whole entourage was offered hospitality by a Sheikh from Entebbe. Zadas and zadis were accommodated in the only luxury hotel there where an enormous bill was paid by this Sheikh.
Talking about SAYEDNAS visits to Tanzania, way back in 1967-68, MOLA the Great was caught red handed by the Tanzanian Police laundering money and contravening the countries Foreign Exchange Act. He was declared a persona non grata, -unwanted and undesirable person- in Tanzania and was deported by the Gov’t within 24 hours. The whole Asian community was humiliated.
On a relevant point, on his deportation, Burhanuddin Saheb transited through Mombasa where a tumultuous crowd of weeping Bohras greeted him. A rumour was spread through the community that some of the Bohra philantrophists in Tanzania had orchestrated the deportation by using their influence in the Tanzania Government.
On another point, Saifuddin Saheb was the guest of Amarbhai of Kampala. At ziafat time, Kothar's yes-men, disputed that the salaam envelope contained less money than had been agreed to. On being informed of this Saifuddin Saheb expressed his outrage and decided to leave Amarbhai's house. In spite of efforts by a lot of prominent Bohras of Kampala the then Dai left. The whole entourage was offered hospitality by a Sheikh from Entebbe. Zadas and zadis were accommodated in the only luxury hotel there where an enormous bill was paid by this Sheikh.
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Bro Mkenya,
Iam aware of the incident that you mentioned and there is a detailed post on it somewhere on this forum which I will post it in due course.
Iam aware of the incident that you mentioned and there is a detailed post on it somewhere on this forum which I will post it in due course.
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Blunders committed by the Kal-Masoom Daiz-Zaman
By S. Insaf.
1965- Mazoon Burhanuddin Saheb became 52nd Dai after the sudden and shocking death of his father and 51st Dai.
1966 - 24th June, Mulla Abbas Aurangabadi was burnt alive in his house at Karachi by hired goons of Dai who had thrown petrol on him and had set him to fire. Mulla Abbas tried to protect wakf and trust properties and other funds of the community. For this attacked he took Yusuf Najmuddin’s name in his dieing declaration at Civil Hospital Karachi on 26th June 1966. This was First blunder committed by him immediately after assuming the highest office of Dawat-e-Fatimi.
1967 – Daiz-Zaman imposed an Authoritarian Constitution on Jamaat of East Africa withdrawing democratic constitution given by 51st Dai, thus proving his own father and 51st Dai wrong. 2nd blunder, which shook his own foundation.
1968 – Daiz-Zaman tried to transfer a huge amount violating exchange control laws, was expelled from Tanzania. This was third blunder.
1970 - Burhanuddin Saheb interfered with the local Municipal Election in Udaipur where 4 of his nominated Bohra candidates on Congress tickets lost their deposits against the Bohra candidates of Bohra Youth Association (BYA). The humiliating defeat of the candidates officially blessed by him became a turning point in struggle for reform in Udaipur. BYA became more popular after victory of its candidates and founded a Co-operative bank. Sayedna sitting at Bombay took defeat of his nominated candidates as challenged to his religious authority. Third blunder.
1972 - Burhanuddin Saheb gave a written order to close down the Co-operative bank and activities of BYA. Fourth blunder in black & white.
1973 -1st March, An attack on innocent Bohra women of Udaipur was preplanned and they were beaten, their cloths were torn and they were molested in front of Sayedna, Yusuf Najmuddin and Qaid Johar. Fifth most outrageous blunder and crime committed by Daiz-Zaman. Thereafter Sayedna declared a full-scale war against the supporters of BYA. The attacked on the supporters of BYA by instigated Shabis became the order of the day.
1973 - 12th April, 750 men and women from Udaipur went to Rampura (M. P.) to see Sayedna for reconciliation but Sayedna most arrogantly refused to meet them.
1973 - His name again appeared in newspaper with the surreptitious property deal of Sandoz House situated at Shivesagar state in Bombay. His brother Yusuf Najmuddin entered into a deal to buy the building in Rs. 8.5 million, with the usual break up of 3.5 million in white and s. 5 million in jet black. But Government of India got suspicious when deal got stuck due to section 230A of Income Tax Act and clearance from Charity Commissioner. It was a clear case of cheating and under-valuation of the property.
1974 - 22 November, Huge demonstrations all over against Congress M. P. Shashi Bhushan alleging that he described Sayedna as ‘Shaitan’ in his speech from a reformists platform in Bombay.
1974 -23 November, Instigated BY Yusuf Najmuddin, the rector of Jamiya-Saifia in Surat a large crowd went to houses of four senior Ustads of Jamiya and beat them mercilessly thus killing one of them, Shaikh Sajjad Husain.
1975 – 16 March, Inspite of several requests from the Bohras and citizens of Udaipur and intervention of then Prime Minister, Mrs. Indira Gandhi Sayedna refused to solemonise the pending marriages of 300 couples. That led to the formation of the Central Board of Dawoodi Bohra Community (CBDBC) and independent mass-marriages.
1977 - 13 March, Yusuf Najmuddin expelled from Kenya for harassing and excommunicating certain Bohras in that country.
1977 - 14 March, Sayedna’s direct attacked on 1st World Conference of Dawoodi Bohras by CBDBC and his defeat in stopping it. And then to divert public attention he created a most ridiculous Tamasha of Miracles of blood and water oozing out of mazars at Galiyakot and Bombay.
1977 – 14 June, Planned murderous attack by a huge crowd on Noman Contractor and Saifee Pawagadwala at Godhara, imposing of curfew, matter reaching to Jai Prakash Narayan leading to formation of Justice Tarkunde/Justice Nathwani Inquiry Commission.
1978 – 14 January, Murderous Attack on Asghar Ali Engineer at Calcutta.
1978 – 18 April, Inquiry Commission’s letter to Sayedna requesting to co-operate with the Commission and send his representatives. But Sayedna’s blunder to refuse and instead organized worldwide opposition to the Commission.
1979 – 16 to 18 February, violent opposition to Second World Dawoodi Bohra Conference held at Udaipur.
1980 – The report of Justice Nathwani Inquiry Commission was made public. Daiz-Zaman’s atrocities committed on his own followers were well documented. It was shocking to the world out side. All over the world newspapers and magazines kept on questioning for months the ‘monstrous’ powers enjoyed by the Bohra Dai.
1981 – January, Daiz-Zaman’s visit to Egypt in the name repairs of Masjid Jam-e-Anwar and involvement of shady property deals in which Yusuf Najmuddin lost his life.
1981 – February, 3rd World Conference of Dawoodi Bohras was organized in Bombay to challenge the lion in its own den. Daiz-Zaman again organized a violent opposition. Most shocking was the scene outside Islam Gymkhana where Daiz-Zaman had used Rida clad Bohra women and made sleep all over the road and ground so that the cars and buses carrying delegates could not move.
1981 – April, organized attack by knife on Asghar Ali Engineer in an open seminar in Hydrabad by a fanatic follower of Daiz-Zaman.
1982 – May, Sudden agitation on large scale against Bombay Mercantile Bank in order to seek control over it rendering thousands of Bohras jobless in the process.
1983 – Desecrating and demolition of grave Reformist leader, Noman Contractor and its concern reaching in Maharastra Assembly.
1984 – April, Organised murderous attack on Asghar Ali Engineer inside Jam-e-Anwar mosque in Cairo. Thus Daiz-Zaman become ‘Holy Terror’ in newspapers.
1984 – September, Faiz-e-Husaini’s office in Bombat raided and ‘Hawala’ racket run by Daiz-Zaman was exposed.
1985 – March, The valuable land of Dawood Baugh in Bombay on which then President of India, Dr. Radhakrishnan had led down a foundation stone for ‘Saifee Golden Jubilee Technological Institute was sold of by Daiz-Zaman.
By S. Insaf.
1965- Mazoon Burhanuddin Saheb became 52nd Dai after the sudden and shocking death of his father and 51st Dai.
1966 - 24th June, Mulla Abbas Aurangabadi was burnt alive in his house at Karachi by hired goons of Dai who had thrown petrol on him and had set him to fire. Mulla Abbas tried to protect wakf and trust properties and other funds of the community. For this attacked he took Yusuf Najmuddin’s name in his dieing declaration at Civil Hospital Karachi on 26th June 1966. This was First blunder committed by him immediately after assuming the highest office of Dawat-e-Fatimi.
1967 – Daiz-Zaman imposed an Authoritarian Constitution on Jamaat of East Africa withdrawing democratic constitution given by 51st Dai, thus proving his own father and 51st Dai wrong. 2nd blunder, which shook his own foundation.
1968 – Daiz-Zaman tried to transfer a huge amount violating exchange control laws, was expelled from Tanzania. This was third blunder.
1970 - Burhanuddin Saheb interfered with the local Municipal Election in Udaipur where 4 of his nominated Bohra candidates on Congress tickets lost their deposits against the Bohra candidates of Bohra Youth Association (BYA). The humiliating defeat of the candidates officially blessed by him became a turning point in struggle for reform in Udaipur. BYA became more popular after victory of its candidates and founded a Co-operative bank. Sayedna sitting at Bombay took defeat of his nominated candidates as challenged to his religious authority. Third blunder.
1972 - Burhanuddin Saheb gave a written order to close down the Co-operative bank and activities of BYA. Fourth blunder in black & white.
1973 -1st March, An attack on innocent Bohra women of Udaipur was preplanned and they were beaten, their cloths were torn and they were molested in front of Sayedna, Yusuf Najmuddin and Qaid Johar. Fifth most outrageous blunder and crime committed by Daiz-Zaman. Thereafter Sayedna declared a full-scale war against the supporters of BYA. The attacked on the supporters of BYA by instigated Shabis became the order of the day.
1973 - 12th April, 750 men and women from Udaipur went to Rampura (M. P.) to see Sayedna for reconciliation but Sayedna most arrogantly refused to meet them.
1973 - His name again appeared in newspaper with the surreptitious property deal of Sandoz House situated at Shivesagar state in Bombay. His brother Yusuf Najmuddin entered into a deal to buy the building in Rs. 8.5 million, with the usual break up of 3.5 million in white and s. 5 million in jet black. But Government of India got suspicious when deal got stuck due to section 230A of Income Tax Act and clearance from Charity Commissioner. It was a clear case of cheating and under-valuation of the property.
1974 - 22 November, Huge demonstrations all over against Congress M. P. Shashi Bhushan alleging that he described Sayedna as ‘Shaitan’ in his speech from a reformists platform in Bombay.
1974 -23 November, Instigated BY Yusuf Najmuddin, the rector of Jamiya-Saifia in Surat a large crowd went to houses of four senior Ustads of Jamiya and beat them mercilessly thus killing one of them, Shaikh Sajjad Husain.
1975 – 16 March, Inspite of several requests from the Bohras and citizens of Udaipur and intervention of then Prime Minister, Mrs. Indira Gandhi Sayedna refused to solemonise the pending marriages of 300 couples. That led to the formation of the Central Board of Dawoodi Bohra Community (CBDBC) and independent mass-marriages.
1977 - 13 March, Yusuf Najmuddin expelled from Kenya for harassing and excommunicating certain Bohras in that country.
1977 - 14 March, Sayedna’s direct attacked on 1st World Conference of Dawoodi Bohras by CBDBC and his defeat in stopping it. And then to divert public attention he created a most ridiculous Tamasha of Miracles of blood and water oozing out of mazars at Galiyakot and Bombay.
1977 – 14 June, Planned murderous attack by a huge crowd on Noman Contractor and Saifee Pawagadwala at Godhara, imposing of curfew, matter reaching to Jai Prakash Narayan leading to formation of Justice Tarkunde/Justice Nathwani Inquiry Commission.
1978 – 14 January, Murderous Attack on Asghar Ali Engineer at Calcutta.
1978 – 18 April, Inquiry Commission’s letter to Sayedna requesting to co-operate with the Commission and send his representatives. But Sayedna’s blunder to refuse and instead organized worldwide opposition to the Commission.
1979 – 16 to 18 February, violent opposition to Second World Dawoodi Bohra Conference held at Udaipur.
1980 – The report of Justice Nathwani Inquiry Commission was made public. Daiz-Zaman’s atrocities committed on his own followers were well documented. It was shocking to the world out side. All over the world newspapers and magazines kept on questioning for months the ‘monstrous’ powers enjoyed by the Bohra Dai.
1981 – January, Daiz-Zaman’s visit to Egypt in the name repairs of Masjid Jam-e-Anwar and involvement of shady property deals in which Yusuf Najmuddin lost his life.
1981 – February, 3rd World Conference of Dawoodi Bohras was organized in Bombay to challenge the lion in its own den. Daiz-Zaman again organized a violent opposition. Most shocking was the scene outside Islam Gymkhana where Daiz-Zaman had used Rida clad Bohra women and made sleep all over the road and ground so that the cars and buses carrying delegates could not move.
1981 – April, organized attack by knife on Asghar Ali Engineer in an open seminar in Hydrabad by a fanatic follower of Daiz-Zaman.
1982 – May, Sudden agitation on large scale against Bombay Mercantile Bank in order to seek control over it rendering thousands of Bohras jobless in the process.
1983 – Desecrating and demolition of grave Reformist leader, Noman Contractor and its concern reaching in Maharastra Assembly.
1984 – April, Organised murderous attack on Asghar Ali Engineer inside Jam-e-Anwar mosque in Cairo. Thus Daiz-Zaman become ‘Holy Terror’ in newspapers.
1984 – September, Faiz-e-Husaini’s office in Bombat raided and ‘Hawala’ racket run by Daiz-Zaman was exposed.
1985 – March, The valuable land of Dawood Baugh in Bombay on which then President of India, Dr. Radhakrishnan had led down a foundation stone for ‘Saifee Golden Jubilee Technological Institute was sold of by Daiz-Zaman.
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By S. Insaf.
In the Muslim world Shias are in minority. So to defend themselves they have to study the religion deeply and keep themselves prepared against the majority attacks. Similarly the Ismailis were in minority in Shia community. So they studied Quran and other philosophical work of their time and compiled 52 resalas of Ikhwanus-Safa and made many such valuable literary contributions.
The Reformist or progressive Bohras movement came in forefront in the beginning of 20th century for two reasons:
1) because the 51st Bohra Dai became greedy of wealth and fame and hence in order to have absolute control over the community’s properties and finances he resorted to coercion to crush the opposition.
2) With the British Raj in India and modern education and judiciary, people (including Bohra elites) became more aware of their civil rights. Numbers of legal suits filed against our 51st Dai are proof of this awareness.
Now to stand against two powerful forces, black money and religious fanaticism which Sayedna had at his command and to justify their cases the Bohra opponents had to undertake study of their religion, their past history and powers and authorities of their Dais. On the contrary the orthodox Bohras remained subject of Kothar’s provocation and confined to Kothar’s teachings.
In my survey of Bohras of Gujarat in 1996 I found just two houses where the members of the house had read Maula Ali’s Nahjul Balagha. All other houses were filled with Kothar’s so called literature of hi fi praises and colored photographs of 51st and 52nd Dais.
In modern Times the non-Bohra scholars like W. Ivanow, F. Wusternfeld, O’Leary, P.J. Vatikoiti, Prof. R.A. Nicholson and Prof. A.A.A. Faizee and have done pioneering work and have made known to the outside world the significance and importance of Ismaili literatures. Their books are no doubt a result of painstaking research and interest the specialists have taken. Not from any of our Dais but from these non-Bohra researchers and scholars we came to know how that our Fatimi Imams were rich in science, philosophy and literature apart from religious knowledge and in their time Fatimite Library of Cairo contained 1000,0000 volumes of astronomy, medicine, philosophy, history, jurisprudence and politics elegantly transcribed and bound.
Taking advantage of religious freedom during British Raj on lines of our Fatimi Imams, our 43rd Dai Syedna Abde Ali Saifuddin Saheb (from 1785-1819 A.D.) started a college in Surat in India. The students were taught 52 tracts of Ikhwanus-Safa, Rahatul Aql, Taawilud-Da’em, Majlise-Moaiyedi etc to keep the glorious tradition of Fatimi Dawat.
But unfortunately 51st Dai in order to amass wealth disregarded the literary and ecclesiastical qualifications required for higher degree of priesthood (Dai, Mazoon, Mukasir, Shaikhs). This in turn necessitated the gradual suppression of the open sectarian education in Surat and degeneration of the institution started. By 60s and 70s like Asghar Ali Engineer’s Father, Shaikh Qurban Husain there were many Ulemas who used to regret (off course in private) the repressive policies of late Sayedna and Kothar was aware of this. The ultimate blow came when Mulla Abbas Aurangabadi was burnt alive in brought day light in Karachi and four Shaikhs of Surat’s Jamiya, Shaikh Hasan Ali, Shaikh Sajjad Husain, Shaikh Ahmed Ali and Shaikh Ali Huasain were beaten up by a crowd instigated by Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb’s brother, Yusuf Najmuddin.
"Dr. Asghar Ali Engineer is a son of original Shaikh of Kothar" --and if you read his writings, you'd know he learned or supports very little of what his father learned.
There is no concept of raza in any other Muslim sect. There are many incidents where the Holy prophet came to know of certain marriage being going on in Muslim houses and he sent his blessings to the couple afterwards. Dead bodies of Muslims were buried and the Holy Prophet came to know of their death much letter. You say daris means lesson. Yes that term was daras and not daris and Sayedna Hatim used to give daras to momineen and there was no question of monetory contribution and enjoying of best of the food.
The Holy Prophet never got offended or humiliated by the Jew woman who used to throw dust on him and Maula Ali offered ‘sharbat’ to Ibne-Muljim, his murderer, and Sayedna Burhanuddin can not even tolerate Asghar Ali Engineer traveling with him in the same plane and organizes a murderous attack on him at the airport. What qualification do you need to judge such anti-Islamic and in-human behavior of a leader who fabricates stories, instigates his fanatics and yet claims to be religious and spiritual leader and Maula Ali’s Dai?
In the Muslim world Shias are in minority. So to defend themselves they have to study the religion deeply and keep themselves prepared against the majority attacks. Similarly the Ismailis were in minority in Shia community. So they studied Quran and other philosophical work of their time and compiled 52 resalas of Ikhwanus-Safa and made many such valuable literary contributions.
The Reformist or progressive Bohras movement came in forefront in the beginning of 20th century for two reasons:
1) because the 51st Bohra Dai became greedy of wealth and fame and hence in order to have absolute control over the community’s properties and finances he resorted to coercion to crush the opposition.
2) With the British Raj in India and modern education and judiciary, people (including Bohra elites) became more aware of their civil rights. Numbers of legal suits filed against our 51st Dai are proof of this awareness.
Now to stand against two powerful forces, black money and religious fanaticism which Sayedna had at his command and to justify their cases the Bohra opponents had to undertake study of their religion, their past history and powers and authorities of their Dais. On the contrary the orthodox Bohras remained subject of Kothar’s provocation and confined to Kothar’s teachings.
In my survey of Bohras of Gujarat in 1996 I found just two houses where the members of the house had read Maula Ali’s Nahjul Balagha. All other houses were filled with Kothar’s so called literature of hi fi praises and colored photographs of 51st and 52nd Dais.
In modern Times the non-Bohra scholars like W. Ivanow, F. Wusternfeld, O’Leary, P.J. Vatikoiti, Prof. R.A. Nicholson and Prof. A.A.A. Faizee and have done pioneering work and have made known to the outside world the significance and importance of Ismaili literatures. Their books are no doubt a result of painstaking research and interest the specialists have taken. Not from any of our Dais but from these non-Bohra researchers and scholars we came to know how that our Fatimi Imams were rich in science, philosophy and literature apart from religious knowledge and in their time Fatimite Library of Cairo contained 1000,0000 volumes of astronomy, medicine, philosophy, history, jurisprudence and politics elegantly transcribed and bound.
Taking advantage of religious freedom during British Raj on lines of our Fatimi Imams, our 43rd Dai Syedna Abde Ali Saifuddin Saheb (from 1785-1819 A.D.) started a college in Surat in India. The students were taught 52 tracts of Ikhwanus-Safa, Rahatul Aql, Taawilud-Da’em, Majlise-Moaiyedi etc to keep the glorious tradition of Fatimi Dawat.
But unfortunately 51st Dai in order to amass wealth disregarded the literary and ecclesiastical qualifications required for higher degree of priesthood (Dai, Mazoon, Mukasir, Shaikhs). This in turn necessitated the gradual suppression of the open sectarian education in Surat and degeneration of the institution started. By 60s and 70s like Asghar Ali Engineer’s Father, Shaikh Qurban Husain there were many Ulemas who used to regret (off course in private) the repressive policies of late Sayedna and Kothar was aware of this. The ultimate blow came when Mulla Abbas Aurangabadi was burnt alive in brought day light in Karachi and four Shaikhs of Surat’s Jamiya, Shaikh Hasan Ali, Shaikh Sajjad Husain, Shaikh Ahmed Ali and Shaikh Ali Huasain were beaten up by a crowd instigated by Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb’s brother, Yusuf Najmuddin.
"Dr. Asghar Ali Engineer is a son of original Shaikh of Kothar" --and if you read his writings, you'd know he learned or supports very little of what his father learned.
There is no concept of raza in any other Muslim sect. There are many incidents where the Holy prophet came to know of certain marriage being going on in Muslim houses and he sent his blessings to the couple afterwards. Dead bodies of Muslims were buried and the Holy Prophet came to know of their death much letter. You say daris means lesson. Yes that term was daras and not daris and Sayedna Hatim used to give daras to momineen and there was no question of monetory contribution and enjoying of best of the food.
The Holy Prophet never got offended or humiliated by the Jew woman who used to throw dust on him and Maula Ali offered ‘sharbat’ to Ibne-Muljim, his murderer, and Sayedna Burhanuddin can not even tolerate Asghar Ali Engineer traveling with him in the same plane and organizes a murderous attack on him at the airport. What qualification do you need to judge such anti-Islamic and in-human behavior of a leader who fabricates stories, instigates his fanatics and yet claims to be religious and spiritual leader and Maula Ali’s Dai?
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A MEAGRE PORTION OF WHERE THE WAJEBAT MONEY GOES.
By S. Insaf.
Sun Jul 29, 2007
Look what happens to all our heard-earned money collected by way of Wajebat.
Sayedna Saheb’s family members have their accounts in several hundred banks all over the world.
With the help of a Parsee gentleman working in a managerial position in Bank of India, Head Office, Flora Fountain, Bombay I have got the prints of the summary of family members of Sayedna Mohamed Burhanuddin Saheb in The Bank of India, Head Office, Flora Fountain, Bombay.
Total accounts are 62 and total number of Shares 64191 in about hundred 100 different companies.
Here is the list of those Accounts with the Names of Account holders and their Addresses.
In MANY Accounts Names are common with little change in prefix and suffix as for example: Name of Syedna’s wife is varying as Mrs. Amtullah Burhanuddin, Mrs. Amtullah Aaisahebah S. M. Burhanuddin Saheb, Mrs. Amtullah aai Sahebah, Mrs. Amtullah Aaisahebah M. Burhanuddin. Same way the names of other family members also vary for the reason best known to them.
Here under are the names of Account holders with figures in the brackets showing that their names are common in so many Accounts:-
Mr. Qaid Johar Burhanuddin (2)
Mrs. Amtullah Burhanuddin (13)
Mr. Shamoil E. Shahbuddin (1)
Mr. Esmailbhai Saheb Shahbuddin (5)
Mrs. Shirinbai Saheba Qutbuddin (5)
Mr. Qusai Mohamedbhai (2)
Bai Amtullah Saifuddin (1)
Mr. Qutub Taiyeb Zakiuddin (1)
Mr. Taiyab Zakiuddin (3)
Mr. Husainbhai Saheb Husamuddin (11)
Bai Laina Abdulhusain Vajihuddin (1)
Mr. Akberbhai Saheb Vajihuddin (2)
Mrs. Amatuzzehra Abdulhusain (3)
Mr. Malik Burhanuddin (1)
Miss. Mubareka Shahabuddin (2)
Mr. Murtaza E. Shahbuddin (1)
Mr. Malekul Ashtar bhai Saheb (1)
Maryam Taher Saifuddin (2)
Mr. Yahya Abdulhusain Ezziuddin (3)
Mrs. Namatullah bai Saheba (1)
Mr. Yusufbhai Saheb (1)
Yusuf Abbasbhai Saheb (2)
Mr. Abdulhusain bhai Saheb Vajihudin (3)
Mr. Zohair Yahyabhai Saheb Ezziuddin (1)
Miss Razia Hushamuddin (1)
Mrs. Shirin Hushamuddin (3)
Miss Rashida Hushamuddin (1)
Bai Ramla Taiyebbhai (1)
Mr. Abi Ali Hushamuddin (1)
His Holiness Dr. Syedna Taher Saifuddin Memorial Foundation (1)
Mrs. Sakinabai Saheba J. Safiuddin (1)
Mr. Shabbir bhai Saheb Nooruddin (1)
Mr. Sheikh Hatimbhoy Sheikh Mohamedbhai Attar (1)
Sarah Yahya bhai Saheb Eziuddin (1)
Mr. Turab Zakiuddin (1)
Atekabai Abdulhusain Bai Samina Zakiuddin (1)
Mr. Taiyeb Fakhruddin Vajihuddin (1)
Mrs. Huseina Nooruddin (2)
Miss Husaina Mohamedbhai Burhanuddin (1)
Mr. Huzefa bhai Saheb (1)
Mrs. Husainbhai Saheb Nooruddin (1)
Master Najmuddin (1)
Mr.Abbas Fakhruddin (2)
Miss Ibrizal Fakhruddin (1)
Master Saifuddin (1)
Mr. Moiz (1)
Mr. Ebrahimbhai Saheb Zainuddin (2)
Mr. Mr. Khuzemabhai Saheb Qutbuddin (2)
Mrs. Sakina K. Qutbuddin (2)
Mrs. Bilkis A. Vajihuddin (1)
Bai Batulbai Mohamedbhai Saheb Burhanuddin (2)
Bai Amtullah Abdulhusain (1)
Miss Duriya Abdulhusain Vajihuddin (1)
Miss Durratul E. Shahbuddin (1)
Mr. Idrisbhai Saheb Badruddin (1)
Mr. Esmail Fidahussain (1)
Mr. Esuf Sheikh Esmail (1)
Mr. Huzefa Burhanuddin (1)
Jumana Abdulhusain Vajihuddin (1)
Miss Joheratulvasjal Idris Zainudin (1)
Mrs. Sheherbanoo bai Saheba Idris Zainuddin (1)
Miss Jami Husamuddin (1)
Mr. Husain Husamuddin (1)
Mr. Qasim Hakimuddin (4)
Mrs. Fizza Qasim Hakimuddin (4)
Master Taha Qasim (1)
Master Mukarram Qasim (1)
Mr.Aliasgherbhai Saheb Kalimuddin (1)
Mr.Abizer Husamuddin (1)
Mr. Amdiali Husamud (1)
Mr. Abil Fazl Husainbhai Saheb (1)
Mr. Abdul Husain bhai Saheb Zainuddin.
Address in most of cases is of Badri Mahal, Bombay
We give below the details of Abbreviated words of The Companies in which Syedna Saheb’s Families have Shares:-
1)NTCEL – Neelamalai Tea & Coffee Estates Ltd.
2)HCL - Herdillia Chemicals Ltd.
3)ADL – Asian Dehydrates Ltd.
4)SSN – Scindia Steam Navigation Co. Ltd.
5)BDM – Bombay Dyeing & Mfg. Co. Ltd.
6)ICCL – Indian Copper Corporation Ltd.
7)TISCL – Tata Iron & Steel Co. Ltd.
TPCL – Tata Power Co. Ltd.
9)AACL – Alcock Ashdown & Co. Ltd.
10)AECL – Amalgamated Electricity Co. Ltd.
11)HLL – Hindustan Lever Ltd.
12)TUML – India United Mills Ltd.
13)KMCL – Kohinoor Mills Co. Ltd.
14)MML – Minerva Mills Ltd.
15)SCSCL – Samastipur Centrasugar Co. Ltd.
16)PAL – Premier Automobiles Ltd.
17)BSESL – Bombay Suburban Electric Supply Ltd.
18)AESCL – Ahmedabad Electric Supply Co. Ltd.
19)TELCL – Tata Engineering & Loco Co. Ltd.
20)SML – Swan Mills Ltd.
21)AEL – Asian Electronics Ltd.
22)ACCL – A. C. C. Ltd.
23)BPAPL – Bombay Paints & Allied Prod. Ltd.
24)SSL – Shivrajpur Syndicate Ltd.
25)BSESL – B.S.E.S. Ltd.
26)TELCO – Telco Ltd.
27)BRCL – Baroda Rayon Corp. Ltd…...100 companies.
I have the details of each account like, Name of account holder, Reg./ Folio no., account no., Total numbers of shares, value of shares, name of the company etc. but that would lengthen the post.
By S. Insaf.
Sun Jul 29, 2007
Look what happens to all our heard-earned money collected by way of Wajebat.
Sayedna Saheb’s family members have their accounts in several hundred banks all over the world.
With the help of a Parsee gentleman working in a managerial position in Bank of India, Head Office, Flora Fountain, Bombay I have got the prints of the summary of family members of Sayedna Mohamed Burhanuddin Saheb in The Bank of India, Head Office, Flora Fountain, Bombay.
Total accounts are 62 and total number of Shares 64191 in about hundred 100 different companies.
Here is the list of those Accounts with the Names of Account holders and their Addresses.
In MANY Accounts Names are common with little change in prefix and suffix as for example: Name of Syedna’s wife is varying as Mrs. Amtullah Burhanuddin, Mrs. Amtullah Aaisahebah S. M. Burhanuddin Saheb, Mrs. Amtullah aai Sahebah, Mrs. Amtullah Aaisahebah M. Burhanuddin. Same way the names of other family members also vary for the reason best known to them.
Here under are the names of Account holders with figures in the brackets showing that their names are common in so many Accounts:-
Mr. Qaid Johar Burhanuddin (2)
Mrs. Amtullah Burhanuddin (13)
Mr. Shamoil E. Shahbuddin (1)
Mr. Esmailbhai Saheb Shahbuddin (5)
Mrs. Shirinbai Saheba Qutbuddin (5)
Mr. Qusai Mohamedbhai (2)
Bai Amtullah Saifuddin (1)
Mr. Qutub Taiyeb Zakiuddin (1)
Mr. Taiyab Zakiuddin (3)
Mr. Husainbhai Saheb Husamuddin (11)
Bai Laina Abdulhusain Vajihuddin (1)
Mr. Akberbhai Saheb Vajihuddin (2)
Mrs. Amatuzzehra Abdulhusain (3)
Mr. Malik Burhanuddin (1)
Miss. Mubareka Shahabuddin (2)
Mr. Murtaza E. Shahbuddin (1)
Mr. Malekul Ashtar bhai Saheb (1)
Maryam Taher Saifuddin (2)
Mr. Yahya Abdulhusain Ezziuddin (3)
Mrs. Namatullah bai Saheba (1)
Mr. Yusufbhai Saheb (1)
Yusuf Abbasbhai Saheb (2)
Mr. Abdulhusain bhai Saheb Vajihudin (3)
Mr. Zohair Yahyabhai Saheb Ezziuddin (1)
Miss Razia Hushamuddin (1)
Mrs. Shirin Hushamuddin (3)
Miss Rashida Hushamuddin (1)
Bai Ramla Taiyebbhai (1)
Mr. Abi Ali Hushamuddin (1)
His Holiness Dr. Syedna Taher Saifuddin Memorial Foundation (1)
Mrs. Sakinabai Saheba J. Safiuddin (1)
Mr. Shabbir bhai Saheb Nooruddin (1)
Mr. Sheikh Hatimbhoy Sheikh Mohamedbhai Attar (1)
Sarah Yahya bhai Saheb Eziuddin (1)
Mr. Turab Zakiuddin (1)
Atekabai Abdulhusain Bai Samina Zakiuddin (1)
Mr. Taiyeb Fakhruddin Vajihuddin (1)
Mrs. Huseina Nooruddin (2)
Miss Husaina Mohamedbhai Burhanuddin (1)
Mr. Huzefa bhai Saheb (1)
Mrs. Husainbhai Saheb Nooruddin (1)
Master Najmuddin (1)
Mr.Abbas Fakhruddin (2)
Miss Ibrizal Fakhruddin (1)
Master Saifuddin (1)
Mr. Moiz (1)
Mr. Ebrahimbhai Saheb Zainuddin (2)
Mr. Mr. Khuzemabhai Saheb Qutbuddin (2)
Mrs. Sakina K. Qutbuddin (2)
Mrs. Bilkis A. Vajihuddin (1)
Bai Batulbai Mohamedbhai Saheb Burhanuddin (2)
Bai Amtullah Abdulhusain (1)
Miss Duriya Abdulhusain Vajihuddin (1)
Miss Durratul E. Shahbuddin (1)
Mr. Idrisbhai Saheb Badruddin (1)
Mr. Esmail Fidahussain (1)
Mr. Esuf Sheikh Esmail (1)
Mr. Huzefa Burhanuddin (1)
Jumana Abdulhusain Vajihuddin (1)
Miss Joheratulvasjal Idris Zainudin (1)
Mrs. Sheherbanoo bai Saheba Idris Zainuddin (1)
Miss Jami Husamuddin (1)
Mr. Husain Husamuddin (1)
Mr. Qasim Hakimuddin (4)
Mrs. Fizza Qasim Hakimuddin (4)
Master Taha Qasim (1)
Master Mukarram Qasim (1)
Mr.Aliasgherbhai Saheb Kalimuddin (1)
Mr.Abizer Husamuddin (1)
Mr. Amdiali Husamud (1)
Mr. Abil Fazl Husainbhai Saheb (1)
Mr. Abdul Husain bhai Saheb Zainuddin.
Address in most of cases is of Badri Mahal, Bombay
We give below the details of Abbreviated words of The Companies in which Syedna Saheb’s Families have Shares:-
1)NTCEL – Neelamalai Tea & Coffee Estates Ltd.
2)HCL - Herdillia Chemicals Ltd.
3)ADL – Asian Dehydrates Ltd.
4)SSN – Scindia Steam Navigation Co. Ltd.
5)BDM – Bombay Dyeing & Mfg. Co. Ltd.
6)ICCL – Indian Copper Corporation Ltd.
7)TISCL – Tata Iron & Steel Co. Ltd.
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9)AACL – Alcock Ashdown & Co. Ltd.
10)AECL – Amalgamated Electricity Co. Ltd.
11)HLL – Hindustan Lever Ltd.
12)TUML – India United Mills Ltd.
13)KMCL – Kohinoor Mills Co. Ltd.
14)MML – Minerva Mills Ltd.
15)SCSCL – Samastipur Centrasugar Co. Ltd.
16)PAL – Premier Automobiles Ltd.
17)BSESL – Bombay Suburban Electric Supply Ltd.
18)AESCL – Ahmedabad Electric Supply Co. Ltd.
19)TELCL – Tata Engineering & Loco Co. Ltd.
20)SML – Swan Mills Ltd.
21)AEL – Asian Electronics Ltd.
22)ACCL – A. C. C. Ltd.
23)BPAPL – Bombay Paints & Allied Prod. Ltd.
24)SSL – Shivrajpur Syndicate Ltd.
25)BSESL – B.S.E.S. Ltd.
26)TELCO – Telco Ltd.
27)BRCL – Baroda Rayon Corp. Ltd…...100 companies.
I have the details of each account like, Name of account holder, Reg./ Folio no., account no., Total numbers of shares, value of shares, name of the company etc. but that would lengthen the post.
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How Poor Bohras in a remote village of Gujarat were harassed by Kothar.
By S. Insaf.
I have recieved one more letter today please go through and decide for yourself whether huge money collected from the community is really distributed among poor Bohras?:
Why Piswada’s Mosque is Closed Since Last One Year?
Pisawada is a village near Ahmadabad where majority of Dawoodi Bohras are living a miserable life, meeting two ends with great difficulty. Bohra Chronicle has recieved the following letter from a Committee Member of Pisawada Jamat. The letter exposes the malfunctioning of Dawat's machinery today:
We are the members of Pisawada Jamat Committee. The reason to write this letter is that the new renovated Bohra mosque is ready since last one year but it is kept closed and there is no permission for offering prayers there. It can open only after its inauguration for which it was said that one Quresh Bhai saheb is likely to come to Pisawada.
The problem is the acute poverty of Bohras here. They are field labourors and very small cultivators. They can not afford the expenses of Salaams and Ziyafat during inauguration. When the proposal for new mosque had come that time many of them had already mortgaged their lands in order to pay their share imposed by Kothar. So they are already in debt and not in position pay anything more. Now unless an order comes from Sayedna Saheb from Mumbai raza can not be given for offering namaz in this mosque.
Besides this there is one more hurdle for opening this mosque. I am a member of Jamaat and I know very well that Jamat's secretary Gulam Husain Amiji was made in-charge of management of construction of the new mosque. He sold out the Teakwood material of the mosque for rupees 30 lakhs. With this money over night he built a huge house for himself. He bought two tractors. He purchased 80 bigha land and a new Maruti car for himself. He is now enjoying the best of the both the worlds.
Rather than taking action against Gulam Husain Amiji, Sayedna Saheb's establishment decided to punish the whole town for a crime which they had not committed. The establishment called us at Mumbai and asked account for Rs. 30 lakhs. Now they are pressurizing us to pay back Rs. 30 lakhs so much so that we were told that the new mosque will not be inaugurated until and unless this amount is paid.
When Sayedna Saheb's establishment had given charge of construction of new mosque to Jamat secretary Gulam Husain Amiji and it is evident that he has utilized Rs. 30 lakhs for his own benefit why this punishment for poor Mumineen?
Is it justify to harass the entire town when you know the culprit?
Therefore we request our beloved Aqa Mola to see that Pisawada is a poor town and we are not able to bear any expense for inauguration of the mosque. The constant flood has destroyed our crops again and again. When we ask help from Qarde-Hasnat we are asked to deposit land or gold ornaments, if we had them why would we need Qarde-Hasanat?
Mola Ramazan is coming. Your establishment has become champion in imposing multiple taxes in your name. We have contributed millions of rupees for the construction of new mosque but we are not allowed to pray in this mosque. Why? Bawa Saheb! It is impossible for us to call you for inauguration when we can not afford the salaam and ziyafat expenses of even ordinary Shahzada.
We therefore request you Aqa Mola please open the mosque without any pre-condition.
Members of Pisawada Jamat Committee
By S. Insaf.
I have recieved one more letter today please go through and decide for yourself whether huge money collected from the community is really distributed among poor Bohras?:
Why Piswada’s Mosque is Closed Since Last One Year?
Pisawada is a village near Ahmadabad where majority of Dawoodi Bohras are living a miserable life, meeting two ends with great difficulty. Bohra Chronicle has recieved the following letter from a Committee Member of Pisawada Jamat. The letter exposes the malfunctioning of Dawat's machinery today:
We are the members of Pisawada Jamat Committee. The reason to write this letter is that the new renovated Bohra mosque is ready since last one year but it is kept closed and there is no permission for offering prayers there. It can open only after its inauguration for which it was said that one Quresh Bhai saheb is likely to come to Pisawada.
The problem is the acute poverty of Bohras here. They are field labourors and very small cultivators. They can not afford the expenses of Salaams and Ziyafat during inauguration. When the proposal for new mosque had come that time many of them had already mortgaged their lands in order to pay their share imposed by Kothar. So they are already in debt and not in position pay anything more. Now unless an order comes from Sayedna Saheb from Mumbai raza can not be given for offering namaz in this mosque.
Besides this there is one more hurdle for opening this mosque. I am a member of Jamaat and I know very well that Jamat's secretary Gulam Husain Amiji was made in-charge of management of construction of the new mosque. He sold out the Teakwood material of the mosque for rupees 30 lakhs. With this money over night he built a huge house for himself. He bought two tractors. He purchased 80 bigha land and a new Maruti car for himself. He is now enjoying the best of the both the worlds.
Rather than taking action against Gulam Husain Amiji, Sayedna Saheb's establishment decided to punish the whole town for a crime which they had not committed. The establishment called us at Mumbai and asked account for Rs. 30 lakhs. Now they are pressurizing us to pay back Rs. 30 lakhs so much so that we were told that the new mosque will not be inaugurated until and unless this amount is paid.
When Sayedna Saheb's establishment had given charge of construction of new mosque to Jamat secretary Gulam Husain Amiji and it is evident that he has utilized Rs. 30 lakhs for his own benefit why this punishment for poor Mumineen?
Is it justify to harass the entire town when you know the culprit?
Therefore we request our beloved Aqa Mola to see that Pisawada is a poor town and we are not able to bear any expense for inauguration of the mosque. The constant flood has destroyed our crops again and again. When we ask help from Qarde-Hasnat we are asked to deposit land or gold ornaments, if we had them why would we need Qarde-Hasanat?
Mola Ramazan is coming. Your establishment has become champion in imposing multiple taxes in your name. We have contributed millions of rupees for the construction of new mosque but we are not allowed to pray in this mosque. Why? Bawa Saheb! It is impossible for us to call you for inauguration when we can not afford the salaam and ziyafat expenses of even ordinary Shahzada.
We therefore request you Aqa Mola please open the mosque without any pre-condition.
Members of Pisawada Jamat Committee
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Some Innovations (Biddat) by Syedna Muhammed Burhanuddin.
By S. Insaf.
Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb has done many innovations (Bid’at), (thanks to his political adviser and Naib Sultan Yusuf Najmuddin):
1) 1965: All earlier Dais are buried in Bohra graveyards at the place where they had died. But Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb brought his father and 51st Dai Sayedna Taher Saifuddin’s dead body from hills of Matheran and buried him in a thickly residential area of Bhindi Bazar, Bombay. Late Sayedna’s marble mausoleum was built after demolishing the community’s valuable property of Qasre-Husaini Hall and Jamatkhana and Noor Masjid rendering hundreds of Bohras homeless by demolishing several buildings around the mausoleum for further expansion.
Reason was obvious. Huge collection of money on daily and regular basis in the Galla kept near the grave. This was not possible if late Sayedna was buried in the far away place of Matheran.
2) 1967: Sayedna Taher Saifuddin had bestowed a democratic constitution for all Dawoodi Bohra Jamats of East Africa. But under advice of Yusuf Najmuddin Sayedna Burhanuddin destroyed the democratic character of East African Jamats and imposed a authoritarian constitution on them
2) 1980: Sayedna Taher Saifuddin openly accepted on oath in Bombay High Court (during Chandabhoy Galla Case) that he gave and took interest and many Bohras including his Amils also do the same. Hundreds of interest bearing institutes like banks, Credit societies and Bachat Yojnas were started during his time many of them even inaugurated by him.
Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb kept the same practice for almost 15 years (from 1965 to 1980) after he became Dai. But then Yusuf Najmuddin advised him to take over the well established progressing Bombay Mercantile Cooperative Bank. When the bank’s Bohra directors refused Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb launched an outrageous campaign against the bank in the name of “prohibition of interest in Islam”. Thousands of Bohras were rendered jobless as they were compelled to resign from the Bank jobs and thousands more suffered in their business.
3) 1980: Till 1980 Moharram’s vaizs were conducted individually in every town and cities all over the world. Yusuf Najmuddin who was involved in a huge land deal in Egypt arranged Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb’s Moharram vaiz in Cairo for the first time. More than 25 thousand Bohras were taken there under pretext that “Imam is going to reappear.” This attempt was a great success both financially and show of strength. Hence this practice of holding Sayedna’s hi-tech vaiz at far away places like Karachi, Dubai, Mombassa, Nairobi and Colombo etc. has now become a permanent feature.
3) In the history books of Dawat there is no mention anywhere of Dais’ female members including their mothers and wives. At least no importance is given to them.
Sayedna Taher Saifuddin had four wives and 36 children, a sign of his being a great Sultan. There is no confirmation but it is said that his daughter Sakina fell in love with a Sardar youth. But then Sakina died mysteriously. She was buried in the Bohra graveyard in Sir Adamji Peerbhoy Sanatorium. First time in the Bohra history it was Sayedna Taher Saifuddin who made Sakina Bahen Saheba’s ziyarat compulsory.
Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb had just one wife. She died in London and buried there. Going on his father’s foot steps Burhanuddin Saheb has also started the ziyarat of his wife creating one more site of pilgrimage for ziyarat-lover Bohras.
Unfortunately the Bohras accept all these new innovations as true Dawat's traditions.
By S. Insaf.
Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb has done many innovations (Bid’at), (thanks to his political adviser and Naib Sultan Yusuf Najmuddin):
1) 1965: All earlier Dais are buried in Bohra graveyards at the place where they had died. But Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb brought his father and 51st Dai Sayedna Taher Saifuddin’s dead body from hills of Matheran and buried him in a thickly residential area of Bhindi Bazar, Bombay. Late Sayedna’s marble mausoleum was built after demolishing the community’s valuable property of Qasre-Husaini Hall and Jamatkhana and Noor Masjid rendering hundreds of Bohras homeless by demolishing several buildings around the mausoleum for further expansion.
Reason was obvious. Huge collection of money on daily and regular basis in the Galla kept near the grave. This was not possible if late Sayedna was buried in the far away place of Matheran.
2) 1967: Sayedna Taher Saifuddin had bestowed a democratic constitution for all Dawoodi Bohra Jamats of East Africa. But under advice of Yusuf Najmuddin Sayedna Burhanuddin destroyed the democratic character of East African Jamats and imposed a authoritarian constitution on them
2) 1980: Sayedna Taher Saifuddin openly accepted on oath in Bombay High Court (during Chandabhoy Galla Case) that he gave and took interest and many Bohras including his Amils also do the same. Hundreds of interest bearing institutes like banks, Credit societies and Bachat Yojnas were started during his time many of them even inaugurated by him.
Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb kept the same practice for almost 15 years (from 1965 to 1980) after he became Dai. But then Yusuf Najmuddin advised him to take over the well established progressing Bombay Mercantile Cooperative Bank. When the bank’s Bohra directors refused Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb launched an outrageous campaign against the bank in the name of “prohibition of interest in Islam”. Thousands of Bohras were rendered jobless as they were compelled to resign from the Bank jobs and thousands more suffered in their business.
3) 1980: Till 1980 Moharram’s vaizs were conducted individually in every town and cities all over the world. Yusuf Najmuddin who was involved in a huge land deal in Egypt arranged Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb’s Moharram vaiz in Cairo for the first time. More than 25 thousand Bohras were taken there under pretext that “Imam is going to reappear.” This attempt was a great success both financially and show of strength. Hence this practice of holding Sayedna’s hi-tech vaiz at far away places like Karachi, Dubai, Mombassa, Nairobi and Colombo etc. has now become a permanent feature.
3) In the history books of Dawat there is no mention anywhere of Dais’ female members including their mothers and wives. At least no importance is given to them.
Sayedna Taher Saifuddin had four wives and 36 children, a sign of his being a great Sultan. There is no confirmation but it is said that his daughter Sakina fell in love with a Sardar youth. But then Sakina died mysteriously. She was buried in the Bohra graveyard in Sir Adamji Peerbhoy Sanatorium. First time in the Bohra history it was Sayedna Taher Saifuddin who made Sakina Bahen Saheba’s ziyarat compulsory.
Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb had just one wife. She died in London and buried there. Going on his father’s foot steps Burhanuddin Saheb has also started the ziyarat of his wife creating one more site of pilgrimage for ziyarat-lover Bohras.
Unfortunately the Bohras accept all these new innovations as true Dawat's traditions.
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Bohras and Mohurrum !
By ghulam muhammed.
Moharrum has now become a once in a year foreign tour for which Bohras are waiting with baited breadth. Kothar becomes SOTC Tours & Travels and bohras are seen whispering in each others ears "Aa waqt mukam kya hase" which in other words means now which new country we will be able to see ? During syedna's dubai vayez I heard people saying what a bargain to visit Dubai and get free accomodation and lavish food for 10 days alongwith free visa. I have first hand account of the happenings there as I have quite a many relatives in Dubai. It so happened that the hotel staff were very much fed up with these illiterate lot because when they left there were a number of broken toilet sinks and so much so that even the hotel's blankets and curtains were looted and taken away by these bohras. The jamaat had to pay a hefty compensation for this. The bohras claimed that the sheikh of dubai was so impressed by syedna that he flew him in his private plane and requested him that come here as many times as possible for your vayez. The gullible bohras were more then impressed to see Mola ni shaan but they failed to realise that with the millions of dollars in revenue by way of the bohra shopping spree and the hotel occupancy rate touching an all time high, any ruler was bound to make this statement seeing his country's economy flourishing never mind for a short period of time. Further more the shopkeepers were more then happy because the outdated stuff which lay unsold in a heap of dust for years together were bought by these illiterate bohras for a handsome price because the bohras were jumping one over the other to buy as much "phoren maal" as possible.
And if we asked them how was the vayez, the only thing they would say was "su intezam hato, etla mumeenin na hova na baad pan omelete, masko jam saathe nashto time par mali jaato. 2 kharas, 2 mithas saathe jaman roz time par milto, roz alag alag type ni murgi ne icecream aapta". But my dear how was the vayez ? Arre mola ni dua thi badhi cheezo dukano ma discount ma milti and mumineen ni su izzat hati. Now it is a different matter that more then 200 bohra women were booked by the dubai police for theft. So the bottomline was that they were least interested in mola's bayaan and were more interested in eating and shopping. Now where does the mourning of Imam Hussain a.s. and the significance of Moharrum fits in here, its for anyone to decide.
The amount of money kothar has made by way of gettting heavy discounts on such huge and bulk air tickets and in return selling them at a handsome profit and the number of Sheikhs and Mulla titles given for abnormal monetary considerations and the endless ziafats and nikahs performed at premium rates and the lumpsum fee charged by syedna to conduct the vayez is an obnoxiously phenomenal sum. I was told by a very reliable source in Bangalore that when their jamaat went to Saifee Mahal for araz last year for Moharrum vayez, they were asked by some shehzada as to what najwa will your jamaat give to Mola to which the Bangalore jamaat offered an amount of Rs.20 crore. On hearing this that shehzada rudely insulted these people by telling them that they have already recieved an offer of Rs.40 crore from elsewhere so anything above that will only be considered. This has remained the significance of the holy month of Moharrum and Imam Hussain a.s. and his shahadat has become a tradeable commodity (May Allah forgive me). These people are no better then the saffron brigade because like how Ayodhya and Hindutva has become a flourishing business for them so are Moharrum, Ramzan and Islam become business for the priestly class. May Allah give tauhfiq to the ones who have gone astray and render justice which Iam sure He will surely do. Amin.
These bohras are like "kuva ma medak" i.e. Frogs in the well. They will only do tarr, tarr, tarr in the well and will be extremely proud of it thinking that this is the only place on this planet which has so much of water. Hence they will never even make an effort to come out of the well. If only by chance they happen to come out of the well and see even a glimpse of the deep seas and huge oceans, the chances are that they will faint as the well is not even a minscule compared to the vast oceans and seas. And once they experience the pleasure of these oceans, no one will want to re enter that stinking well. Hence every possible effort is made by this unscruplous kothar to keep them tied down and instead of disclosing the real beauties of the outside world, they are fed with all sorts of crooked, wicked and false stories with a heavy dosage of fear due to which these bohras prefer to remain tied down and moreover feel extremely proud of doing it. Hence nothing can be done for them because as the saying goes "You cannnot help the ones who refuse to help their own self".
By ghulam muhammed.
Moharrum has now become a once in a year foreign tour for which Bohras are waiting with baited breadth. Kothar becomes SOTC Tours & Travels and bohras are seen whispering in each others ears "Aa waqt mukam kya hase" which in other words means now which new country we will be able to see ? During syedna's dubai vayez I heard people saying what a bargain to visit Dubai and get free accomodation and lavish food for 10 days alongwith free visa. I have first hand account of the happenings there as I have quite a many relatives in Dubai. It so happened that the hotel staff were very much fed up with these illiterate lot because when they left there were a number of broken toilet sinks and so much so that even the hotel's blankets and curtains were looted and taken away by these bohras. The jamaat had to pay a hefty compensation for this. The bohras claimed that the sheikh of dubai was so impressed by syedna that he flew him in his private plane and requested him that come here as many times as possible for your vayez. The gullible bohras were more then impressed to see Mola ni shaan but they failed to realise that with the millions of dollars in revenue by way of the bohra shopping spree and the hotel occupancy rate touching an all time high, any ruler was bound to make this statement seeing his country's economy flourishing never mind for a short period of time. Further more the shopkeepers were more then happy because the outdated stuff which lay unsold in a heap of dust for years together were bought by these illiterate bohras for a handsome price because the bohras were jumping one over the other to buy as much "phoren maal" as possible.
And if we asked them how was the vayez, the only thing they would say was "su intezam hato, etla mumeenin na hova na baad pan omelete, masko jam saathe nashto time par mali jaato. 2 kharas, 2 mithas saathe jaman roz time par milto, roz alag alag type ni murgi ne icecream aapta". But my dear how was the vayez ? Arre mola ni dua thi badhi cheezo dukano ma discount ma milti and mumineen ni su izzat hati. Now it is a different matter that more then 200 bohra women were booked by the dubai police for theft. So the bottomline was that they were least interested in mola's bayaan and were more interested in eating and shopping. Now where does the mourning of Imam Hussain a.s. and the significance of Moharrum fits in here, its for anyone to decide.
The amount of money kothar has made by way of gettting heavy discounts on such huge and bulk air tickets and in return selling them at a handsome profit and the number of Sheikhs and Mulla titles given for abnormal monetary considerations and the endless ziafats and nikahs performed at premium rates and the lumpsum fee charged by syedna to conduct the vayez is an obnoxiously phenomenal sum. I was told by a very reliable source in Bangalore that when their jamaat went to Saifee Mahal for araz last year for Moharrum vayez, they were asked by some shehzada as to what najwa will your jamaat give to Mola to which the Bangalore jamaat offered an amount of Rs.20 crore. On hearing this that shehzada rudely insulted these people by telling them that they have already recieved an offer of Rs.40 crore from elsewhere so anything above that will only be considered. This has remained the significance of the holy month of Moharrum and Imam Hussain a.s. and his shahadat has become a tradeable commodity (May Allah forgive me). These people are no better then the saffron brigade because like how Ayodhya and Hindutva has become a flourishing business for them so are Moharrum, Ramzan and Islam become business for the priestly class. May Allah give tauhfiq to the ones who have gone astray and render justice which Iam sure He will surely do. Amin.
These bohras are like "kuva ma medak" i.e. Frogs in the well. They will only do tarr, tarr, tarr in the well and will be extremely proud of it thinking that this is the only place on this planet which has so much of water. Hence they will never even make an effort to come out of the well. If only by chance they happen to come out of the well and see even a glimpse of the deep seas and huge oceans, the chances are that they will faint as the well is not even a minscule compared to the vast oceans and seas. And once they experience the pleasure of these oceans, no one will want to re enter that stinking well. Hence every possible effort is made by this unscruplous kothar to keep them tied down and instead of disclosing the real beauties of the outside world, they are fed with all sorts of crooked, wicked and false stories with a heavy dosage of fear due to which these bohras prefer to remain tied down and moreover feel extremely proud of doing it. Hence nothing can be done for them because as the saying goes "You cannnot help the ones who refuse to help their own self".
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HOW THE DAI HAD TO BITE DUST DURING HIS LAST UMRAH TRIP.
By Al Zulfiqar
![Image](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/746/7oPR0q.jpg)
For all those who do not read or understand the strange language which is called lisaane dawat, the 'rough' translation of the circular from saifee mahal is as under:
Headlined (on official letterhead) from:
Al Dawa al Hadiyah of Allah...
(Al Vazaratus Saifeeyah Al Muazzam)
Baad Salaam Al Jaleel Wa Ikram Al Jameel to entire Bilad Al Imamiya and its Masools (responsible officials) vagairah etc.
Em elaan ke Huzure Aala Filhaal Makka Mukarramah ma tashreef farmave che. Mumeneen Mukhleseen ne em shaukh che aa mauka par Baitullah taraf kasad kare (onslaught of sheep) ane sawab ul azeem hasil kare.
Ye salsala me alam thai ke,
KOI BHI MOMEEN YA MOMEENA NE KOI BHI SHAKELA NA VIZA PAR (business or visit) FILHAAL UMRA VASTE "RAZA NATHI".
YE MAUDHU KHIDMATAK MUMENEEN NI TAKEED ITALLA KARWU.
wassalam.
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This circular was sent under duress and strict instructions from Saudi govt. who made it clear that they will not tolerate any show of strength and jahalat from syedna's abdes and at any display of shirk, viz. chanting maula, maula, kissing his hands and feet and doing sajda to him in public, acting like a senseless mob and creating a law and order situation, he and his small retinue will be sent packing post haste. the implications are clear, obey or get out and suffer the consequences.
For those abdes who profess ignorance of dawat ni zabaan or the contents of this letter, it is officially on saifee mahal letterhead and signed by a high level functionary whose signature i cannot make out. maybe the insiders will know.
VIP status and state guest, my foot! his humiliation is documented in black and white, so no more lies.
2 days ago another notice was issued by saifee mahal, which shows further indignity being heaped upon syedna during his stay in saudi arabia.
Unfortunately we cannot reproduce that entire notice here as this forum does not allow that feature. maybe admin can. but the notice states in its relevant part:
saabak em mokalwama aayu hathu ke koi bhi mumeen ya mumena makaah al mukarramah taraf bagair raza kasad kare nahin
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huzure ala aawti kaale makkah al mukarramah si al madina al munawarrah kasad farmavse. koi bhi mumeen ya mumena ni ye arsaa ma al madina al munawarrah
-------------------------- JAAWANI RAZA NATHI --------------------
em ershaad muneer che. ye sagla ne taakeed italla karwu.
wassalam.
The haqiqi kaaba insulted in his own den...?? What happened to his mojiza making capabilities and his claim of being bolta quran and ilah al ardh??!! So far no head of any community or so-called spiritual leader has ever been insulted to this extent in saudi or so many restrictions put upon him as this syedna. All his lies and claims to divinity have been kicked into the garbage bin by the saudis.
No Saudi bigwig was ready to meet him even after offering bribes, not even any lowly municipality clerk; finally in order to save face they had to rope in the indian consul by telling him that syedna wants to meet him. its only because the syedna is old that the consul came to meet him or he would have insisted that he come over to his office. now the fake stories manufacturing deptt of saifee mahal claims that the consul came to pay his respects..!!
Here is what a poet has said about false gods who claim to be divine:
OZYMANDIAS
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
The Pharaohs who claimed to be gods ruled for well over 3000 years, the French monarchy, whose kings claimed to be the gods of the sun, the Ethiopian monarcy which claimed to be divine, the ruling dynasties of India, China and many other kingdoms around the world have all bitten the dust. So will the evil dynasty of this syedna and his family who claim to be sultans and kings over us will eventually be buried under tons of dust.
By Hussein_KSA :-
Strict instructions were issued to Bohras against performing any kind of Maatam in Masjidul Haram. Even the Kothar coterie praying with Qaid Johar or Malikul Ashtar in in odd times were not seen doing Maatam. Festive note is no one pray at the time of prayer and later they will gather at one place and one of the prince will lead prayer without Iqamat or Takbeer and all will do Sujood and Rukuu with him.
Syedna sahib did ziyarat from the one of the hotel near Jannatul Baquee as the whole grave yard is visible from there . Secondly there was no use of going inside the Janattul Baquee because of the rude behavior of unmannered and uncivilized guards (Mutawwas) over there. Now a days the Muttawas ( religious police) are very strict with Shias and Bohras. If they found any one with book they will snatch it. However one can stay as long as possible with the barricades erected in front of the ahle bait graves.
Some of the Bait e Zaini or qasre aali members tried to argue with Mutawwas but they were calmed down by their group members.
Once in the entrance of Masjid – e Nabwi two of syedna saheb’s sons found arguing with each other. They were arguing that which door they should get in.
Bohras were not allowed during the visit of Syedna to Madina however they were invited on the eve of Majlis Shahdate Imam Hasan.
By the way Syedna Sahib will leave madina today by a chartered flight to Riyadh and he would take Air India flight to Bombay this evening.
By Al Zulfiqar
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For all those who do not read or understand the strange language which is called lisaane dawat, the 'rough' translation of the circular from saifee mahal is as under:
Headlined (on official letterhead) from:
Al Dawa al Hadiyah of Allah...
(Al Vazaratus Saifeeyah Al Muazzam)
Baad Salaam Al Jaleel Wa Ikram Al Jameel to entire Bilad Al Imamiya and its Masools (responsible officials) vagairah etc.
Em elaan ke Huzure Aala Filhaal Makka Mukarramah ma tashreef farmave che. Mumeneen Mukhleseen ne em shaukh che aa mauka par Baitullah taraf kasad kare (onslaught of sheep) ane sawab ul azeem hasil kare.
Ye salsala me alam thai ke,
KOI BHI MOMEEN YA MOMEENA NE KOI BHI SHAKELA NA VIZA PAR (business or visit) FILHAAL UMRA VASTE "RAZA NATHI".
YE MAUDHU KHIDMATAK MUMENEEN NI TAKEED ITALLA KARWU.
wassalam.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
This circular was sent under duress and strict instructions from Saudi govt. who made it clear that they will not tolerate any show of strength and jahalat from syedna's abdes and at any display of shirk, viz. chanting maula, maula, kissing his hands and feet and doing sajda to him in public, acting like a senseless mob and creating a law and order situation, he and his small retinue will be sent packing post haste. the implications are clear, obey or get out and suffer the consequences.
For those abdes who profess ignorance of dawat ni zabaan or the contents of this letter, it is officially on saifee mahal letterhead and signed by a high level functionary whose signature i cannot make out. maybe the insiders will know.
VIP status and state guest, my foot! his humiliation is documented in black and white, so no more lies.
2 days ago another notice was issued by saifee mahal, which shows further indignity being heaped upon syedna during his stay in saudi arabia.
Unfortunately we cannot reproduce that entire notice here as this forum does not allow that feature. maybe admin can. but the notice states in its relevant part:
saabak em mokalwama aayu hathu ke koi bhi mumeen ya mumena makaah al mukarramah taraf bagair raza kasad kare nahin
-------------------hawe---------------------------
huzure ala aawti kaale makkah al mukarramah si al madina al munawarrah kasad farmavse. koi bhi mumeen ya mumena ni ye arsaa ma al madina al munawarrah
-------------------------- JAAWANI RAZA NATHI --------------------
em ershaad muneer che. ye sagla ne taakeed italla karwu.
wassalam.
The haqiqi kaaba insulted in his own den...?? What happened to his mojiza making capabilities and his claim of being bolta quran and ilah al ardh??!! So far no head of any community or so-called spiritual leader has ever been insulted to this extent in saudi or so many restrictions put upon him as this syedna. All his lies and claims to divinity have been kicked into the garbage bin by the saudis.
No Saudi bigwig was ready to meet him even after offering bribes, not even any lowly municipality clerk; finally in order to save face they had to rope in the indian consul by telling him that syedna wants to meet him. its only because the syedna is old that the consul came to meet him or he would have insisted that he come over to his office. now the fake stories manufacturing deptt of saifee mahal claims that the consul came to pay his respects..!!
Here is what a poet has said about false gods who claim to be divine:
OZYMANDIAS
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
The Pharaohs who claimed to be gods ruled for well over 3000 years, the French monarchy, whose kings claimed to be the gods of the sun, the Ethiopian monarcy which claimed to be divine, the ruling dynasties of India, China and many other kingdoms around the world have all bitten the dust. So will the evil dynasty of this syedna and his family who claim to be sultans and kings over us will eventually be buried under tons of dust.
By Hussein_KSA :-
Strict instructions were issued to Bohras against performing any kind of Maatam in Masjidul Haram. Even the Kothar coterie praying with Qaid Johar or Malikul Ashtar in in odd times were not seen doing Maatam. Festive note is no one pray at the time of prayer and later they will gather at one place and one of the prince will lead prayer without Iqamat or Takbeer and all will do Sujood and Rukuu with him.
Syedna sahib did ziyarat from the one of the hotel near Jannatul Baquee as the whole grave yard is visible from there . Secondly there was no use of going inside the Janattul Baquee because of the rude behavior of unmannered and uncivilized guards (Mutawwas) over there. Now a days the Muttawas ( religious police) are very strict with Shias and Bohras. If they found any one with book they will snatch it. However one can stay as long as possible with the barricades erected in front of the ahle bait graves.
Some of the Bait e Zaini or qasre aali members tried to argue with Mutawwas but they were calmed down by their group members.
Once in the entrance of Masjid – e Nabwi two of syedna saheb’s sons found arguing with each other. They were arguing that which door they should get in.
Bohras were not allowed during the visit of Syedna to Madina however they were invited on the eve of Majlis Shahdate Imam Hasan.
By the way Syedna Sahib will leave madina today by a chartered flight to Riyadh and he would take Air India flight to Bombay this evening.
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Article by S. Insaf.
The Ismaili movement was a religious mission with a definite political end. As Imam remained in hiding for the protection from prying eyes of the Abbasid rulers, the Dais played a very important role in the organising activities in the regions under them. They appointed two more functionaries – Mazoon and Mukasir.
Mukasir was required to be thoroughly conversant in the knowledge of the religion and beliefs and the weaknesses of opponents whom he wanted to convert. He was required to argue with them cautiously in order not to create doubts in their mind about their religion and beliefs. He would start debating on some principle of shariah or contradictions in the apparent meaning of Quranic verses and wait for their further interest in the matter.
Mazoon would pursue the matter with them to overcome their doubts and then reveal the inner meaning or explain the contradictions and impart them further knowledge of the Ismaili doctrines. After thorough screening they would be allowed to have an audience with Dai who would then take the oath of allegiance (Misaq) from them.
Misaq had two parts. The first part had religious and the second part had political significance. Two historians Maqrizi and Bagdadi have given the text of this covenant in their books.
The first part giving a firm religious basis drawn from Quran begins with:
“The praise be to God who created all the creatures for his worship ……..and connected belief in His unity with obedience with the one whom He appointed His vice-regent on the earth………………This Misaq is a mark of respect and honour to Him. ….One who breaks it, God will punish him/her and one who fulfils what he/she promises, God will reward him/her. He took the covenant from Adam and it continued……...”
It had been made very clear that the practice of taking oath began with the Prophet Adam and after Prophet his Wasi and after him his Imams, whose obedience has been enjoined on human beings by God. It has been taken willingly and with one’s own free will. It is not forced on anyone.
Once a faithful took this covenant and affirmed his support to the movement voluntarism was replaced by compulsion as then the second part assumed political character. The faithful were now required to maintain all religious as well as political secrets of the mission. Thus the second part began with:
“And you will obey the Imam and anyone whom he orders you to obey, you will never defy him, never cheat him, never deceive him. ……..You will love whom he loves, and treat as enemy whom he declares as his enemy, fight him whom he fights with ……Say Yes."
“You will not establish contact with his enemy either through a letter, message, hint, signal, sign and inclination or trick whatever the reason or cause; Say yes."
"If anyone breaks the oath; whatever he owns from the property, assets, real estate, wealth, jewels, agriculture………………will be seized and distributed among poor and needy Muslims……………All his wives will be treated as divorced……….Say yes.”
Thus we see in the first and second part the absolute loyalty of supreme authority of Imam was must for two reasons. One, because Imam was believed to be infallible and two, to ensure the success of this underground movement for political end.
But the form of Misaq which Dawoodi Bohras have today is a version which has undergone many changes. This Misaq in two parts was a necessary for the movement which was underground then. Also, a highly centralized structure was also a political necessity for Fatemi Imams to achieve their goal and establish political power.
Misaq is not practiced by any other sect of Islam except Dawoodi Bohras who are descendants of Ismailis. As we have seen for Ismailis it was political necessity of a close-knit underground movement in the then hostile conditions.
Today the movement is no longer underground; the earlier mission of Dai, Mazoon and Mukasir to convert people of other faiths to Ismailism no longer exists.
The first religious part of the Misaq states that “Allah took the covenant from Adam and it continued…….” Nothing wrong in giving the oath to Allah. But today’s Misaq altered by Sayedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb is oppressive as it binds the followers to submit to a total surrender not to God but personally to Dai. Today’s Misaq is the most effective sanction for all kind of inhuman behavior which has changed the character of this decent, peace-loving and caring community. After the establishment of British rule in India and then the advent of Independence there remained no fear of persecution of Dawoodi Bohras and hence this oath of loyalty to central authority is no more essential.
Therefore the enforcing of the rigid conditions of second part of the Misaq of political significance and that too for Dai must be strongly opposed.
Similarly, the retaining the same centralised secretive structure of Dawat must be strongly opposed.
The fact is that till the 50th Dai only the first part of the Misaq which has religious significance was taken by the Bohra priests and that too for Imam, merely as religious custom. The Misaq had only ceremonial value till then.
But as our 51st Dai, late Sayedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb, admitted in Bombay High Court that he manipulated the text and added several passages in order to elevate Dai’s status to that of Imam and enforce his unquestionable authority over the followers of the faith.
Sayedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb introduced very harsh conditions in the text of Misaq making it an instrument of punishment. He made these changes despite the clear warning in Tuhfat-ul-Qulub by Sayedna Hatim that: The Dai is prohibited to ascribe a single word of the Misaq towards himself. Remember Sayedna Hatim was not a Dai during Imam’s time. He was our third Dai after the Imam Tayeb went into seclusion and the Fatimid empire had fallen down.
As Sayedna Taher Saifuddin moved unabashedly to build his financial empire he destroyed the spirit and norms of Ismailism giving it an authoritarian character which caused and is still causing many problems in the peace-loving community. There is no priesthood in Islam as religious functions can be performed by any ordinary Muslim. The priesthood is absent in all other Islamic sects. The same was the case in Dawoodi Bohra community till 50th Dai. The local Mullas and Amils were appointed and paid by the independent Jamats and they used to perform all the religious functions of the community including Moharram vaiz without interference of Dai.
But our 51st Dai used this centralised structure to his advantage making it more and more authoritarian by introducing one more rigid condition of his Raza , and ultimately introducing a deadly weapon of Jamat kharij and its latest version Baraat. Thus the Ismaili mission which played a very important role by attempting a creative intellectual synthesis of philosophy and the teachings of Islam, which attracts the best intellectuals even today, has now been reduced to a Cult.
His son and our present 52nd Dai Sayedna Burhanuddin has further taken the community away from Islam by declaring himself as owner of mosques and sole-trustee of community’s property. Under his ownerships Bohra mosques have become a playground for organizing birthday functions, cutting cakes, serving jamans, arranging vadhavnis, kadambosi, najwa and salam functions, mass marriages, meetings of politicians, putting cinema screen, video shooting, fund collection and lottery draws. Now even musalla spaces are priced and reserved thus killing the very spirit of namaz. As recent incidents indicate this commercialisation of religion has turned the Bohra mosques into battle fields.
Our Dai has given up the principle of accountability which is so central in Islam and which was followed by the holy Prophet and his Ahle-bait most vigorously.
In conclusion, I feel that having a huge stake in the system, the Dai and his family and their corrupt administration will not like to mend their ways as they care little about Islam and Ismailism. They have no concern for the suffering humanity. A systematic organised opposition by the mumineen is the only way out. The victims alone are the savior.
The Ismaili movement was a religious mission with a definite political end. As Imam remained in hiding for the protection from prying eyes of the Abbasid rulers, the Dais played a very important role in the organising activities in the regions under them. They appointed two more functionaries – Mazoon and Mukasir.
Mukasir was required to be thoroughly conversant in the knowledge of the religion and beliefs and the weaknesses of opponents whom he wanted to convert. He was required to argue with them cautiously in order not to create doubts in their mind about their religion and beliefs. He would start debating on some principle of shariah or contradictions in the apparent meaning of Quranic verses and wait for their further interest in the matter.
Mazoon would pursue the matter with them to overcome their doubts and then reveal the inner meaning or explain the contradictions and impart them further knowledge of the Ismaili doctrines. After thorough screening they would be allowed to have an audience with Dai who would then take the oath of allegiance (Misaq) from them.
Misaq had two parts. The first part had religious and the second part had political significance. Two historians Maqrizi and Bagdadi have given the text of this covenant in their books.
The first part giving a firm religious basis drawn from Quran begins with:
“The praise be to God who created all the creatures for his worship ……..and connected belief in His unity with obedience with the one whom He appointed His vice-regent on the earth………………This Misaq is a mark of respect and honour to Him. ….One who breaks it, God will punish him/her and one who fulfils what he/she promises, God will reward him/her. He took the covenant from Adam and it continued……...”
It had been made very clear that the practice of taking oath began with the Prophet Adam and after Prophet his Wasi and after him his Imams, whose obedience has been enjoined on human beings by God. It has been taken willingly and with one’s own free will. It is not forced on anyone.
Once a faithful took this covenant and affirmed his support to the movement voluntarism was replaced by compulsion as then the second part assumed political character. The faithful were now required to maintain all religious as well as political secrets of the mission. Thus the second part began with:
“And you will obey the Imam and anyone whom he orders you to obey, you will never defy him, never cheat him, never deceive him. ……..You will love whom he loves, and treat as enemy whom he declares as his enemy, fight him whom he fights with ……Say Yes."
“You will not establish contact with his enemy either through a letter, message, hint, signal, sign and inclination or trick whatever the reason or cause; Say yes."
"If anyone breaks the oath; whatever he owns from the property, assets, real estate, wealth, jewels, agriculture………………will be seized and distributed among poor and needy Muslims……………All his wives will be treated as divorced……….Say yes.”
Thus we see in the first and second part the absolute loyalty of supreme authority of Imam was must for two reasons. One, because Imam was believed to be infallible and two, to ensure the success of this underground movement for political end.
But the form of Misaq which Dawoodi Bohras have today is a version which has undergone many changes. This Misaq in two parts was a necessary for the movement which was underground then. Also, a highly centralized structure was also a political necessity for Fatemi Imams to achieve their goal and establish political power.
Misaq is not practiced by any other sect of Islam except Dawoodi Bohras who are descendants of Ismailis. As we have seen for Ismailis it was political necessity of a close-knit underground movement in the then hostile conditions.
Today the movement is no longer underground; the earlier mission of Dai, Mazoon and Mukasir to convert people of other faiths to Ismailism no longer exists.
The first religious part of the Misaq states that “Allah took the covenant from Adam and it continued…….” Nothing wrong in giving the oath to Allah. But today’s Misaq altered by Sayedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb is oppressive as it binds the followers to submit to a total surrender not to God but personally to Dai. Today’s Misaq is the most effective sanction for all kind of inhuman behavior which has changed the character of this decent, peace-loving and caring community. After the establishment of British rule in India and then the advent of Independence there remained no fear of persecution of Dawoodi Bohras and hence this oath of loyalty to central authority is no more essential.
Therefore the enforcing of the rigid conditions of second part of the Misaq of political significance and that too for Dai must be strongly opposed.
Similarly, the retaining the same centralised secretive structure of Dawat must be strongly opposed.
The fact is that till the 50th Dai only the first part of the Misaq which has religious significance was taken by the Bohra priests and that too for Imam, merely as religious custom. The Misaq had only ceremonial value till then.
But as our 51st Dai, late Sayedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb, admitted in Bombay High Court that he manipulated the text and added several passages in order to elevate Dai’s status to that of Imam and enforce his unquestionable authority over the followers of the faith.
Sayedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb introduced very harsh conditions in the text of Misaq making it an instrument of punishment. He made these changes despite the clear warning in Tuhfat-ul-Qulub by Sayedna Hatim that: The Dai is prohibited to ascribe a single word of the Misaq towards himself. Remember Sayedna Hatim was not a Dai during Imam’s time. He was our third Dai after the Imam Tayeb went into seclusion and the Fatimid empire had fallen down.
As Sayedna Taher Saifuddin moved unabashedly to build his financial empire he destroyed the spirit and norms of Ismailism giving it an authoritarian character which caused and is still causing many problems in the peace-loving community. There is no priesthood in Islam as religious functions can be performed by any ordinary Muslim. The priesthood is absent in all other Islamic sects. The same was the case in Dawoodi Bohra community till 50th Dai. The local Mullas and Amils were appointed and paid by the independent Jamats and they used to perform all the religious functions of the community including Moharram vaiz without interference of Dai.
But our 51st Dai used this centralised structure to his advantage making it more and more authoritarian by introducing one more rigid condition of his Raza , and ultimately introducing a deadly weapon of Jamat kharij and its latest version Baraat. Thus the Ismaili mission which played a very important role by attempting a creative intellectual synthesis of philosophy and the teachings of Islam, which attracts the best intellectuals even today, has now been reduced to a Cult.
His son and our present 52nd Dai Sayedna Burhanuddin has further taken the community away from Islam by declaring himself as owner of mosques and sole-trustee of community’s property. Under his ownerships Bohra mosques have become a playground for organizing birthday functions, cutting cakes, serving jamans, arranging vadhavnis, kadambosi, najwa and salam functions, mass marriages, meetings of politicians, putting cinema screen, video shooting, fund collection and lottery draws. Now even musalla spaces are priced and reserved thus killing the very spirit of namaz. As recent incidents indicate this commercialisation of religion has turned the Bohra mosques into battle fields.
Our Dai has given up the principle of accountability which is so central in Islam and which was followed by the holy Prophet and his Ahle-bait most vigorously.
In conclusion, I feel that having a huge stake in the system, the Dai and his family and their corrupt administration will not like to mend their ways as they care little about Islam and Ismailism. They have no concern for the suffering humanity. A systematic organised opposition by the mumineen is the only way out. The victims alone are the savior.
Re: Archives From The PDB Website Concerning Bohra Issues.
From this article, it appears that Misaaq is most relevant in times of war and fighting for political gain.
This is Succession War.
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This is Succession War.
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