Bohras Again Invite Narendra Modi, the Butcher of Muslims.

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Bohras Again Invite Narendra Modi, the Butcher of Muslims.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:23 pm

BOHRAS AGAIN INVITE NARENDRA MODI, THE BUTCHER OF MUSLIMS.

The above is obviously not possible without the "RAZA" and instructions from the Dai, the so called spiritual leader.

It is reported that the leaders of the Dawoodi Bohra community on January 26 called on Modi at Surat and invited him to inaugurate Burhani Expo-2011, an industrial exhibition scheduled to be held in Ahmedabad on February 19 and 20, as a part of the centenary celebrations of Bohra spiritual leader, Syedna Muhammed Burhanuddin.

Bohra leaders say that Modi has agreed to inaugurate the Expo, where Bohra industrialists and traders from all over the country, numbering around 300 are expected to participate.

Commenting on these developments, human rights activist J S Bandukwala (a Dawoodi Bohra himself) said that the rich and prosperous Muslims of Gujarat were doing a great damage and disservice to their own community.

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:38 am

GM let them have some saharo..Modi is the only one left

Mubarak, King Abdulla, Yemeni, Prince Charles, Kibaki all have some reputional issue and will not be a king or president in a couple of years..who will give him State Honours and Keys to the city.

And anyway the new Islamic movement , ie the youth in Middle East do not even know what Sultan Bohra stands for...go down the streets of Cairo, Jeddah, and ask if they know us and they will be puzzled

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Unread post by aziz » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:38 am

not that i am defending modi but ,in todays world the biggest butchers of muslims are muslims themselves,


1) egypt a muslim country putting a blockade on gaza fellow muslims on behalf of israel

2) in iraq where thousand die every month by bombs not of americans but muslims

3)iran which is going to be invaded by usa soon and supported by all muslim countries

4)kuwait which was invaded by iraq a muslim country

5)saudia being home of kaaba even at this age has racist policies to all other sects of mulims ,and all other religions you cannot have church or temple or any place of worship in saudia in that sense even the christians and hindus are better then the saudi muslims ,at least there is freedom of worship in the west or gujarat in this case.where did this idea of only muslims being allowed to go to kaaba come from,this is racism,the wahabbis want preach and convert in the west but the westerners are allowed the same courtesy in saudia

6)all other muslims countries in the region have internal problems which almost always results in deaths of muslims

7) check the history of dawat all the zulm done on panjatan ,imam and duats has been done by so called muslims,a hindu or christian did not usurp or kill moula ali sa,same for imam hassan and imam hussein or syedna qutbuddin sheeed aq,all was done by muslims


again i am not defending modi at all but first clean your own house and stop yourself from killing and demeaning muslims in your land then complain about hindus or christians doing that,,,,

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Unread post by Gulf » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:30 am

Even Imam Ali A.S. had to make "peace" with the devil Muawiya (God's eternal curse on him). So, sometimes, it really helps to smoothen things over with the powerful, since the powerful's greed for power will eventually consume the powerful. The powerful loser of a human being still has the power to cause even more harm. So, would you rather have more bloodshed? Or would you rather just make things work with imbeclines and the powerful's primitive gang?


All are requested to refer to life of Imam Jaafar Sadiq also sacrificed himself too trying to save thousands of innocent like us. Al Hamdolillah....

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:05 am

\Aziz
5)saudia being home of kaaba even at this age has racist policies to all other sects of mulims ,and all other religions you cannot have church or temple or any place of worship in saudia in that sense even the christians and hindus are better then the saudi muslims ,at least there is freedom of worship in the west or gujarat in this case.where did this idea of only muslims being allowed to go to kaaba come from,this is racism,the wahabbis want preach and convert in the west but the westerners are allowed the same courtesy in saudia
Before you point a finger to others how about Kothari Goons and Shezaadas not talking to people if they donot have STD
Why no bohra who has no STD is allowed in Raudat Tahera but will allow Hindus to come in
WHAT A HYPOCRITE?

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:09 am

Even Imam Ali A.S. had to make "peace" with the devil Muawiya
So if you are comparing Imam Ali AS to Syedna and justify Kothar's action for Modi let me ask you simple question
Do Kothari goons live a simple life like Imam Ali? Do Kothari Goons are on the front line to fight injustice like Imam Ali As and his family did?

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Unread post by Humsafar » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:59 am

Oma, you're right. It's tiring to hear abdes justifying Sayedna-Modi nexus by citing the Ali AS and Imam Hasan's compromises.
The comparison is disingenuous and dishonest. There was pressure on Ali and Hasan to give baya to the khalifas - they did so in order not create factions in Islamic ummah.

For the Sayedna there is no such pressure. He has no obligation to pay fealty to Modi, to bribe him and honour him. If the Sayedna could not bring himself to condemn for tactical reasons Modi's murderous actions, he could have at least kept quiet. Where's the need go out of one's way and befriend him - unless one is keen to protect one's property and wealth in Gujarat. The plea that it was done to save ordinary bohras is only a pretext. And of course, blind abdes can't see it.

There's another twist to the abdes' argument. People like aqs who seem to have access to esoteric knowledge insist that Ali AS never gave baya to the khalifas. If this is the truth Sayedna knows, then he should also know that he shouldn't be giving baya to Modi who is not even demanding it. obviously "live like Alil, die like Hussain" is only and empty slogan.

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:53 pm

What's this relationship between Sayedna and Modi, I know he is a CM of Gujarat and we have to keep him cashed up in case he or his party tries to unleash safron terror on Bohras..but surely not rolling red carpets when he is even implicated in the international arena for genocide, so it is not that people have dreamt the acuusations.

At what point does the Kothar realise Modi is a sworn anti-Muslim by ideology and when he has to sort Muslims out he will not give bohri men in the streets preferential treatment and remember they are not like other Muslims.

I may sound naive but there is a limit when one stop even if we do not care about therest of Muslim Ummah to flatering someone outside our religion who hates us so much that would want us ethnically cleansed...surely he should remember his own Imam Husain bayan how Husain AS stood up for his principles when Yazid asked for allegiance !

May be to teach Kothar a lesson, post Sayedna Modi potraits in major Arab and Islamic news media and see how Muslims react to his stature.

And Abdes please dont try defending that Sayedna is trying to influence Modi to like Muslims as an Ambassador of peace ! Try another spin.


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Unread post by aziz » Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:32 pm

again i am not defending modi at all but he is not the real enemy of muslims ,it is not because of him that muslims are hated and victimised all over the world or in even in india,the real enemies of islam are the fanatics and fundementalist wahabis who export their brand of islam and make muslims hated all over,which leads to genocide of muslims in places like gujarat ,iraq and elsewhere

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Unread post by Humsafar » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:48 pm

Aziz, please do not mix two different things. In the context of Gujarat, Modi was instrumental in the murder and mayhem against Muslims. Wahabism - bad as it is - has nothing to do with this. If you must know, Modi is an RSS product, the cradle of Hindutva ideology - you can call it Hindu wahabism, if you will. Being anti-Muslim is a tenet of their creed.

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Unread post by Safiuddin » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:20 pm

So, sometimes, it really helps to smoothen things over with the powerful, since the powerful's greed for power will eventually consume the powerful. The powerful loser of a human being still has the power to cause even more harm.
Well Gulf, this sounds just like your arrogant and egotistic moula. Hopefully your mouth will be filled with ghee and shakkar.

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:07 am

ozmujaheed wrote:GM let them have some saharo..Modi is the only one left

Mubarak, King Abdulla, Yemeni, Prince Charles, Kibaki all have some reputional issue and will not be a king or president in a couple of years..who will give him State Honours and Keys to the city.

And anyway the new Islamic movement , ie the youth in Middle East do not even know what Sultan Bohra stands for...go down the streets of Cairo, Jeddah, and ask if they know us and they will be puzzled
HOw bout manmohan singh?

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:01 am

man mohan singh..does he really run the country ! his govt has already got a reputational issue especially when the Indian govt has not paid up the foreign companies who were hired to run the CWG and his scandal on the mobile licenses..where there is smoke there is fire

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Unread post by bohri » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:42 am

Aziz wrote
again i am not defending modi at all but he is not the real enemy of muslims ,it is not because of him that muslims are hated and victimised all over the world or in even in india,the real enemies of islam are the fanatics and fundementalist wahabis who export their brand of islam and make muslims hated all over,which leads to genocide of muslims in places like gujarat ,iraq and elsewhere
Why are you not defending Modi? Besides who is saying that Modi is the reason that "muslims are hated and victimised all over the world". We are saying Modi stands against Muslims in India, and specifically in Gujrat.

Secondly what has the Sultan done to stand up to your so called "real enemy of muslims"? Please quote any references where he has condemmed thier behaviour or made an outcry for justice.

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:23 am

ozmujaheed wrote:man mohan singh..does he really run the country ! his govt has already got a reputational issue especially when the Indian govt has not paid up the foreign companies who were hired to run the CWG and his scandal on the mobile licenses..where there is smoke there is fire
oh..so u have problem there too..as expected..then according to u who should syedna be friends with then?

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:42 am

1. His Majesty King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud, King of Saudi
Arabia, Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques
2. His Eminence Grand Ayatollah Hajj Sayyid Ali Khamenei,
Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran
3. His Majesty King Mohammed VI, King of Morocco
4. His Majesty King Abdullah II bin Al Hussein, King of the
Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
5. His Excellency Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Prime Minister of the
Republic of Turkey
6. His Majesty Sultan Qaboos bin Sa'id al Sa'id, Sultan of Oman
7. His Eminence Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Hussein Sistani, Marja
of the Hawza, Najaf
8. His Eminence Sheikh Al Azhar Dr Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi,
Grand Sheikh of the Al Azhar University, Grand Imam of Al
Azhar Mosque
9. Sheikh Dr Yusuf Qaradawi, Head of the International Union of
Muslim Scholars
10. His Eminence Sheikh Dr Ali Goma'a, Grand Mufti of the Arab
Republic of Egypt

1 Maulana Qari Mohd Usman Sb.
President, Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind

2Maulana Jalaluddin Umri Sb.
Amir, Jamaat-e-Islami Hind

3Mohammad Jafar Sb.
Naib Amir, Jamaat-e-Islami Hind

4Dr. Zafrul Islam Sb. Ex.
President,All India Muslim
Majlis-e-Mushawarat

5Swami Agnivesh ji
President, World Council of Arya
Samaj

6Mr. Mahesh Bhatt ji
Social Activist

7Mr. Kamal Farooqui Sb.
Ex. Chairman, Delhi Minority Comm.

8 Dr. Qasim Rasool Ilyas Sb.
Executive Member, Muslim Personal Board

9 Maulana Mahmood A. Madani, M.P.
Leader, Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind

10Maulana Hayatullah Qasmi Sb.
President, Jamiat Ulama-e-Uttar
Pradesh

11Hafiz Peer Shabbir, MLC
President, Jamiat Ulama-e-A. P.

12Maulana Qari Shaukat Ali Sb.
Gen. Secretary, Jamiat
Ulama-e-U.P.

13Maualna Mateenul Haq Osama Sb.
Member, CWC, Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind

14Mufti Mohd. Salman Sb.
Member, CWC, Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind

15Mr. Shakil Ahmed Syed, Advocate
Member, CWC, Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind

16Haji Mohd. Haroon Sb.
Gen. Secretary, Jamiat
Ulama-e-M.P.

17Hafiz Nadeem Siddiqui Sb.
President, Jamiat
Ulama-e-Maharashtra

18Maulana Hakimuddin Qasmi Sb.
Gen. Secretary, Jamiat
Ulama-i-Hind

19Maualna Niaz Farooqui Sb.
Secretary, Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind

Dr Ali Asger Engineer

Nelson Mandela
Dalai Lama
Barak Husain Obama

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Unread post by guy_sam2005 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:02 am

Well Mr.oj,
I dont have the luxury of time to reply for each of them u mentioned,but then moula(tus)already had good rapport wit most of them.Like king abdullah of audi n so,
havin goodrapport wit some is not required as very few no bohras live there (iran),

And leave ppl like engineer alone...who needs them

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Unread post by profastian » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:12 am

what is that engineer doing in the list?

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:42 am

he is hiding..... :mrgreen:

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:43 am

and he needs support.

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Unread post by Safiuddin » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:24 pm

@profastian:

"That" Asghar Ali Engineer is educated in tawil, tafsir, hadith, and has a degree in civil engineering, and is fluent in several languages.
He has at least 40 books and journal articles, and has led the Bohra reform movement since the 1970s.
A staunch supporter of equality and women's rights, he has received several humanitarian awards.
He has been a lecturer at US and German universities.
Unlike your imposter and liar moula and his non-working chokras, who buy themselves doctorates from Madras and Egypt,
Engineer Saab earned his doctorate through scholarly work.
Where is the dissertation Qaid Joher wrote for his PhD from University of Madras?
Where is his work chronicled?
Could you kindly post some of his scholarly work here?
Or maybe post some of his egomaniacal father's scholarly work here?

The question is not what is "that engineer doing here"?
The question is what are YOU doing here?

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Unread post by shabbir4u » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:48 pm

@ saifuddin ,

Question is why u care of Aqa maula. mind your own busniess.

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Unread post by Safiuddin » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:00 pm

@shabbir4u:

I am minding my business. My business is to continue speaking out against your imposter moula and his aggregious regime,
and I have no intention of stopping.
Perhaps you would feel more comfortable with Hosni Mubarak - he also doesn't like those who speak out.
Better go look and see what is happening to his regime.
Additionally, please learn to read before typing my name again.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:11 pm

shabbir4u wrote:he is hiding.....
NO...The Imam is Hiding. :mrgreen:

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Unread post by Regal » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:25 pm

schorlarly work? lol if they get fursat from darees/ziafat/milad they could spend time on scholarly work, or u know ending world hunger. shabbir4u, what has moula done that people invoke his name? give me one reason people say ya moula or abde sayedna, what karnama has he done?

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Unread post by seeker110 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:52 am

The biggest thing Moula has done is kept the bohras illiterate about Islam.Doing so one has to be illiterate himself.If he followed Islam he would be a poor man.

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Unread post by incredible » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:18 am

seeker110 wrote:The biggest thing Moula has done is kept the bohras illiterate about Islam.Doing so one has to be illiterate himself.If he followed Islam he would be a poor man.

other best thing he has done is building zahreeh of imammain,building mosques which were turned up as a garbage place.madressas world wide (donno how much islaam is tought in them) but yeah atleast he has built them. :mrgreen:

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Unread post by profastian » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:08 am

profastian wrote:what is that engineer doing in the list?
Now I know how free this forum is.. Someone edited my real comment. And look at all the abuse to the DAI...
You proggies are really filthy hypocrites

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:31 am

show me evidence that Sayeda has met or has good relations with anyone from my list except King Adullah of Jordan

Shabbir4u if Moala can meet Modi and greet his hand why is he reluctant to meet Mr Engineer who has no blood on his hand ?