Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

The one and only free public forum for Bohras. The focus of this forum is the reform movement, the Dawoodi Bohra faith and, of course, the corrupt priesthood. But the discussion is in no way restricted to the Bohras alone.
SBM
Posts: 6508
Joined: Sun May 09, 2004 4:01 am

Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#1

Unread post by SBM » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:39 pm

The daily newspaper Inquilab is reporting the death of Fakhurddin Khorakhiwala, one of the Akberally' founder and Chancellor of Jamia Millia at the age of 93, I wonder if his death will be reported by abde websites despite the fact he was one of the staunch supporter of the establishment. May Allah give him place in Jannah


Safiuddin
Posts: 546
Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:01 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#3

Unread post by Safiuddin » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:36 pm

Malumaat reported his passing on their website. Pics of the sheik w/Burhanuddin were posted.
Jamea Millia (where he was Chancellor) still had him listed as the currrent administrator (as of earlier today.)


fearAllah
Posts: 183
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:09 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#5

Unread post by fearAllah » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:07 am

Instead of primarily making prayers for the deceased, we bohoras rather care and make prayers for the Dai , see the last line of the article below (highlighted in red) sourced from the above link, seems like as if the death of Shk Fakhruddin article was put on malumaat as a pretext of making duas for Dai. Allah please help this this cult revert to Islam, inshallah!

Shk Fakhruddin Khorakiwala NDI - Ex-Sheriff of Mumbai passes away5 Shaban-al-Karim, 1432 [ 06-07-2011 ] at Mumbai - India

Shk Fakhruddin Shk Taherbhai Khorakiwala (NDI), Qadeem khidmatguzar and ex-sheriff of Mumbai passed away on 4th Shabaan al Karim in Mumbai.

Shk Fakhruddinbhai had held positions in various dawat organisations such as:

- Former President of Saifee Hospital, Former VP of Saifee High School & Saifee Girls High School.

- Former Secretary of Anjuman e Shiate Ali & Faize Dawoodi Bohra Trust.

Shk Fakhruddinbhai was bestowed the title of NDI by Aqa Maula TUS.

Marhoom was serving as Chancellor of Jamia Millia Islamia University, in Delhi, since 2002. He was a successful businessman and chairman of Akbarallys Chain of Department stores in Mumbai, one of India's Oldest Department stores.

Shk Fakhruddinbhai was the Sheriff of Mumbai during the communal riots of 1993.

He was the president of the Indian Merchant's Chamber and also founding member and President of the Fair Trade Practives Association.

Today on 6th raat, Syedi Mukasir Saheb arrived to pray sadaqallah in Mumbai on third day of the passing away of Shk Fakhruddin bhai.

May Allah Subhanahu grant Aqa Maula TUS and His Mansoos TUS Shafaat on Marhoom Shaikh Fakhruddin bhai Khorakiwala.

student
Posts: 60
Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:53 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#6

Unread post by student » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:31 am

fearAllah wrote:
Instead of primarily making prayers for the deceased, we bohoras rather care and make prayers for the Dai , see the last line of the article below (highlighted in red) sourced from the above link, seems like as if the death of Shk Fakhruddin article was put on malumaat as a pretext of making duas for Dai. Allah please help this this cult revert to Islam, inshallah!


May Allah Subhanahu grant Aqa Maula TUS and His Mansoos TUS Shafaat on Marhoom Shaikh Fakhruddin bhai Khorakiwala.
they are not praying for DAI they are praying that may the dead get shafaat of DAI.

so its a prayer for dead.

fearAllah
Posts: 183
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:09 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#7

Unread post by fearAllah » Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:39 am

student wrote:
fearAllah wrote: Instead of primarily making prayers for the deceased, we bohoras rather care and make prayers for the Dai , see the last line of the article below (highlighted in red) sourced from the above link, seems like as if the death of Shk Fakhruddin article was put on malumaat as a pretext of making duas for Dai. Allah please help this this cult revert to Islam, inshallah!


May Allah Subhanahu grant Aqa Maula TUS and His Mansoos TUS Shafaat on Marhoom Shaikh Fakhruddin bhai Khorakiwala.
they are not praying for DAI they are praying that may the dead get shafaat of DAI.

so its a prayer for dead.
Thanks Student I admit my error

Muslim First
Posts: 6893
Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2001 4:01 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#8

Unread post by Muslim First » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:05 am

they are not praying for DAI they are praying that may the dead get shafaat of DAI.
So what happens when Allah does not give chance to Dai to pray for Shafaat ?
Why don't Bohra pray for Shaffaat by Prophet SAW?
According to Hadit he will get first chance to pray for his Umma.

aziz
Posts: 313
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:25 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#9

Unread post by aziz » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:37 pm

if we were living in the prophets time then we would be asking for his shafaat right now our moula is there representing the imam who is in the prophet Mohammed bloodline so we ask for his shafaat. you have nobody so still cling to unfounded hadith .

anajmi
Posts: 13508
Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2001 5:01 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#10

Unread post by anajmi » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:44 pm

That is the handicap that people like you have. Allah keeps saying in the Quran that he is forever. Instead of asking Him, you choose humans that last a few years and that too those that have been proven to be corrupt and inhuman!! Over the last few weeks bohras were praying all night for the health of their aqa maula. How do you expect shafaat from a maula who needs your dua for his health?

porus
Posts: 3594
Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2001 5:01 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#11

Unread post by porus » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:03 pm

An Arab proverb:

كم قبة تزار و صاحبها في النار

kam qubba tuzaaru wa SaHibu-ha fi_n-naar.

How many mazaars (tombs of saints) would you visit while their occupants are in hell.

S. Insaf
Posts: 1494
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:01 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#12

Unread post by S. Insaf » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:38 pm

Brother aziz,
From first Dai Sayedna Zuaib till 24th Dai Sayedna Esuf Najmuddin in a span of 441 years Dais remained in Yemen but they kept on sending their deputies from Yemen to India. A training school was kept in Yemen for training the candidates from India.
Thus even the descendants of the first Hindu coverts from Raja Sidhraj Jaisingh (Bharmal)’s family were patronised and called to Yemen and trained. One Mulla Raj was raised to the degree in Dawat and his son Sayedna Ismailji Badruddin was rose to the post of Dai. After him 34th, 35th, 36th, 37th, 38th, 41st, 42nd, 43rd and 46th Dais that is nine other members of Bharmal’s family were raised to the status of a Dai.
This clearly shows that earlier Dais never hesitated to recognise the superior qualifications of the outside ordinary Bohras against their own children.

This also dismisses the claim that the present incumbents have any linkage (bloodline) from the holy Prophet or the people of his house (Ahle-byat or Imam).
However after the death of 46th Dai Sayedna Badruddin Saheb, the last of the converted Royal Rajput family of Gujarat, the present dynastic rule commenced.

anajmi
Posts: 13508
Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2001 5:01 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#13

Unread post by anajmi » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:17 pm

Brother Insaf,

In all fairness to aziz, I do not think he claimed that the Dai is in the bloodline of the prophet (saw). I think he is saying that the Dai is representing the Imam who is in the bloodline of the prophet (saw). I may be wrong.

porus
Posts: 3594
Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2001 5:01 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#14

Unread post by porus » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:42 pm

aziz wrote:if we were living in the prophets time then we would be asking for his shafaat right now our moula is there representing the imam who is in the prophet Mohammed bloodline so we ask for his shafaat. you have nobody so still cling to unfounded hadith .
No shafa'at is possible from anyone, including prophets, imams or dais, on the day of Judgement.


http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... 7at#p68174

aziz
Posts: 313
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:25 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#15

Unread post by aziz » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:48 am

thats your belief and good for you,keep it and follow it diligently, we have our belief good for us also and we also follow it,in the same way all other religions have their beliefs good for them also ,

whats not good is trying to impose your beliefs on others,let allah be the judge and not you,you are not that qualified

S. Insaf
Posts: 1494
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:01 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#16

Unread post by S. Insaf » Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:03 am

Brother Aziz,
What you say will hold water if our Dai declares that we are not the followers of Religion of Islam and ours is 'Shia Dawoodi Bohra Religion' which is quite different from Sunni - Shia Islam.

anajmi
Posts: 13508
Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2001 5:01 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#17

Unread post by anajmi » Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:08 am

whats not good is trying to impose your beliefs on others
That is what your kothari goons and Dai should learn from you. Why impose Saya Topi Rida Dhadi on others? The reason you are going to give is the same reason why we need to keep correcting people like you.

S. Insaf
Posts: 1494
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:01 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#18

Unread post by S. Insaf » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:57 am

Since Baraat was declared against him, does any one know his burial details?

truebohra
Posts: 413
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:01 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#19

Unread post by truebohra » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:05 am

S. Insaf wrote:Brother Aziz,
What you say will hold water if our Dai declares that we are not the followers of Religion of Islam and ours is 'Shia Dawoodi Bohra Religion' which is quite different from Sunni - Shia Islam.
We are followers of Islam as being preached by our Imams & Dai. We are Ismaili-Mustali-Tayyib-Dawoodi-Bohras? And Yes we are different from other so called 'Shia/Sunni' belief. This need not be declared by the Dai as it a common knowledge. Now tell us about you are you the followers of same or followers of 'Shia/Sunni belief'

labbaikyaHussain
Posts: 351
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:22 am

Re: Fakhruddin Khorakhiwala passed away

#20

Unread post by labbaikyaHussain » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:52 am

S. Insaf wrote:Since Baraat was declared against him, does any one know his burial details?
mukasir shaheb him self was present in majlis to recite sadakallah on khokhrawala death.then how come barat was imposed on him? :shock: