Mukhtaar Saqfi true character - per Dawoodi Bohra Shia faith

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badrijanab
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Mukhtaar Saqfi true character - per Dawoodi Bohra Shia faith

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Unread post by badrijanab » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:15 am

[I am not the author of this article. I merely copy/pasted from a reliable Dawoodi Bohra source.]

Bismillah hir Rahman nir Raheem .

(1) Abu Ubaida Saqafi father of Mukhtaar Saqfi (L) was loyal to Caliph Umar, and died fighting for 2nd caliph Umar.

(2) Mukhtaar (L) adviced his uncle, Sa'd bin Masud to get Imam Hasan (a) arrested or killed so to earn favours from Mawiya, the king of time. His uncle refused this advice and sent Laanat on Mukhtar.

(3) Aaisha raised blood coated shirt of Caliph Usman to incite (logo ko bhadkana) and raised people to fight with Mola Ali (a) (ref: battle of Jamal) - Maloon Mukhtaar got inspired by Aaisha and likewise plotted to do politics and exploit the anger running in masses due to murder of Imam Hussain (a). He incited people to wage war with hidden agenda for himself to become King.

(4) To achieve ambition of becoming King, Mukhtaar (L) appeared in Kufa as a revenger of Hussain's blood. His mission was the same as that of the Tawwabun (the penitents) insofar as the revenge of Hussain's blood, but differed in that he intended to achieve political authority through a more organised military power. Mukhtar, therefore, tried to persuade the Tawwabun not to take any hasty action and to join him for a better chance of success. The Tawwabun refused to join Mukhtar, as they had no wish to participate in any doubtful adventure. Mukhtar also tried to propagate in Kufa that Suleman bin Surad, the leader of the Tawwabun, did not know how to organise the military warfares, nor did he has any knowledge of diplomacy.

(5) Mukhaar (L) then turned to Imam Ali Zayn al-Abidin (a) to seek his support to this effect. Baladhuri writes in "Ansab al-Ashraf" (5th vol., p. 272) that, "Mukhtar wrote to Zayn al-Abidin to show his loyalty to him, asking if he could rally the Kufans for him. He sent with the letter a large sum of money. Imam Ali Zayn al-Abidin (a) refused this offer and declared Mukhtar publicly to be a liar who was trying to exploit the cause of Ahl-al-Bait for his own interests."

(6) Ibn Sa'd (5th vol., p. 213) also describes that Imam Ali Zayn al-Abidin (a) had publicly denounced Mukhtar's mission. Mukhtar lost all hopes of winning Imam Ali Zayn al-Abidin (a), he then turned to Ibn al-Hanafiya, the third son of Mola Ali (a) from a Hanafite woman.

(7) On his part, Ibn al-Hanafiya did not repudiate Mukhtar's propaganda for his Imamate and Messianic role; he nevertheless, maintained a carefully non-committal attitude and never openly raised his claims to the heritage of Imam Hussain. Baladhuri (5th vol., p. 218) writes that, "Ibn al-Hanafiya gave Mukhtar only a non-committal reply. He neither approved nor disapproved of Mukhtar's intention to avenge Imam Hussain (a), and only warned him against bloodshed." In the event, however, the hesitation and political inactivity of Ibn al-Hanafiya emboldened Mukhtar more and more to exploit his name for his own interest. Mukhtar propagated that Ibn al-Hanafiya was the Mahdi, and he himself was his minister (vizir) and commander (amir).

(8) Mukhtar (L) seized possession of Kufa in Hijri 66/686 and captured Mesopotamia and some parts of the eastern provinces from the Umayyads mainly in the name of the blood of Imam Hussain (a). In Kufa, he continued his mission in the name of Ibn al-Hanafiya.

(9) After maneuvers Mukhataar (L) achieved his desire and hidden ambition by declaring himself as the King.

(10) Lets leave aside all the references from Bohras / Sunnis / Isnasharis / etc and just focus on the simplest and undisputed facts: Imam Ali Zain ul Abedeen (a) alone was enough powerful and mighty to single handedly kill the entire army of Yazeed or whole world put together. Imam Ali Zain ul Abedeen (a) neither lead Mukhtaar (L) army nor participated with Mukhtaar (L) = (which proves) Mukhtaar was convict of plotting against Imam Hasan (a) i.e. Mukhtaar was enemy of Ahle Bait, Mukhtaar was liar, and he pursued selfish hidden agenda to become king. . Imam Ali Zain ul Abedeen categorized Mukhtaar as "Liar" and in Quran Allah says, "Laanat" on Liars. Thus we Dawoodi Bohras, the followers of Imam Ali Zain ul Abedeen too says "Laanat" on Maloon Mukhtaar.

In every Majlis of Dawoodi Bohra Shia (Shabab) and Bohra Youth (Progressives) when Shahadat of Imam Hasan (a) is recited, "Laanat" is compulsorily showered on Maloon Mukhtaar (L). .

Wa aakhir dawana anil hamdo lillah he Rabbil aalameen.

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Unread post by stranger » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:49 am

badrijanab,

Thanks for your posts. You are sharing articles from bohra sources, which is difficult to get elsewhere.
Looking forward for some more stuff.

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Unread post by Muslim First » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:14 am

badrijanab Saheb

Do Bohras ever hear anything about benifits of Namaaz, Roza, good deeds prophet and his companions in their majlis?
Or all they do is to wallow in mud of their 8th pillar, that is expression of hate towards actors in the epic drama of succession?

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Unread post by Muslim First » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:31 am

Badrijanab Saheb ;
AS
Mukhtaar (L) adviced his uncle, Sa'd bin Masud to get Imam Hasan (a) arrested or killed so to earn favours from Mawiya, the king of time. His uncle refused this advice and sent Laanat on Mukhtar.
I honestly admit that I do not know these 2 charectors Mukhtaar, and his uncle Sa'd bin Masud or role played by 2 in the epic saga of succession to the so called throne of Prophet SAW
I bet 1.4 billion Muslim do not have the foggiest idea either.

One more question?
Do you ever describe role Of Shia of Ali of Kufa? Their cowardly act of not backing imam Hussein RA after inviting him to Kufa?

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Unread post by Hanif » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:46 pm

stranger wrote:badrijanab,

Thanks for your posts. You are sharing articles from bohra sources, which is difficult to get elsewhere.
Looking forward for some more stuff.
In this day and age, why do we regress in the past? Why can't we look forward and build bridges. A religion that teaches so much hatred is not a religion, it is Fitnati.
This is not Islam. Even Prophet SAW and Mowlana Ali AS forgave their enemies.

Learn to forgive and Allah SWT will forgive You.

Please move on. Stop this nonsense in the name of religion.

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Unread post by Fateh » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:29 am

Hanif wrote:
stranger wrote:badrijanab,

Thanks for your posts. You are sharing articles from bohra sources, which is difficult to get elsewhere.
Looking forward for some more stuff.
In this day and age, why do we regress in the past? Why can't we look forward and build bridges. A religion that teaches so much hatred is not a religion, it is Fitnati.
This is not Islam. Even Prophet SAW and Mowlana Ali AS forgave their enemies.

Learn to forgive and Allah SWT will forgive You.

Please move on. Stop this nonsense in the name of religion.
We all are link of past so its imp. to know the trues of past which can help our present.Even Prophet SAW and Mowlana Ali AS are our past & we are still learning from them.My dear friend true history only teach us which is real religion & which is bida of religion.you are correct a religion teaches so much hatred is not religion ,it is fitnati but how would you know who teach us true religion Ali(a.s.) or any one else with out knowing past history of Islam?

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Unread post by humanbeing » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:11 am

True religion, false religion, good religion, bad religion, right religion, wrong religion ! phew !! Religion looks like really complex thing to understand is it ?

How difficult it is to understand good things in life, piety, compassion, honesty, integrity, kindness, empathy. Religions are compilation of organizing human kinds into system.

We need to understand history, I accept. But how much shall we brood over it. How much baggage shall we pass to our present and future generations. That we live our lives in hatred. Our belief system in centred around hatred rather then love, Is it more important to express piety / loyality by showing abusive hatred to characters in history. The irony is shia/ bohra express love of ahle bayt by practicing hatred towards their enemies rather than following in the footstep of ahle bait preachings. It is far easy to revel and enjoy throwing abusive laanats and spew venomous hatred, rather then lead a simple life against temptations. Now we all will jump from all corners of the arguments that shia sunni both throw abuses at each other. My disappointment is with everyone who follows these hateful ideologies.

Bohra / Shia religious events are surrounded by war / murders / conspiracy / politics. I m not negating the suffering of the victims of such events. But instead of learning from their sufferings , we indulge in self victimization to satisfy our need for salvation, caring forward the hatred to such extent, that we don’t see goodness in today’s human beings and look at them through our prejudiced glasses of shia / sunni / non muslims etc etc !

We dwell in nitty gritty of history to justify hatred and make it more intense re-assuring that our hatred in is right track, from centuries events of shia islam have evolved into various folklores narrated by leaders to suit their political aspirations.

Don’t seek true religion in who to hate and who to love. Seek true religion in what to hate and what to love.

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Unread post by humble_servant_us » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:07 am

Badrijanab

What does Bohra literature write about Ibrahim bin Malek-ul-ashtar (ra).